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The Rub: a podcast about massage therapy

Healwell
Massage Therapy
Complex Systems
Emotional Labor
Education
Volunteerism
Healthcare
Licensing
Regulation
Healwell
Interstate Massage Compact
Polyvagal Theory
Collective Impact
Mental Health Crisis
Suicide Rates
California
Education Standards
Massage Therapy Associations
Generative AI
Interprofessional Education
Gender Inequality

Join Healwell in examining and bringing context to the world of massage therapy beyond the table. We have ideas. We have opinions. We want change, and that will only come with an understanding of who and what massage therapy truly is. A variety of topics are up for grabs: history, philosophy, development, and all the other shiny things that fascinate us.Healwell is a non-profit based out of the Wa... more

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As I walk I see many things. I regularly come across encampments of people who have something a bit better than what “was” but which is still shy of what I imagine is possible. They smile and wave and tell me I can stop because they... more

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If you have spent even a year or two in this profession, I bet you have felt a familiar, exhausting sense of déjà vu. We keep having the same arguments about entry-level education, whether we belong i... more

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Recent Guests

Samantha Zabel
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The Massage Therapy Foundation
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Dr. Stephen Porges
Father of polyvagal theory, known for his work on the human nervous system.
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Cal Cates
Co-host known for pushing toward professionalization, regulatory clarity, and cross-disciplinary collaboration within healthcare settings.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 18 ratings
  • Wow! What a delight.

    I was so happy to come across this podcast. Corey Rivera is a natural. Her research, editing and content are so professional, and the thoughts she shares about massage and healing are compelling. Five stars, Corey! I am excited to hear more.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    naturebodyconnection
    United States2 years ago
  • Just what this industry needs

    Whenever I struggle to put into words what massage therapy is, who it’s for and what role it is has in health care, I only have to listen to this podcast to be reminded about our purpose, our challenges and our community. If every massage therapist had to listen to one podcast episode before graduating, I recommend the Feb 14 one. Corey, in short order, both defines our profession and captures how it can be so difficult to find consensus on how we talk about touch.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    alongstory72
    United States2 years ago
  • Stick To Massage

    Too political.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Vitality Health Massage
    United States3 years ago
  • Love this podcast!

    What's on my mind is how much I'm loving the "Rub" podcasts with Corey! Corey, you are so funny, smart and engaging. The podcasts are informative, contentious in an amusing way, and enjoyable to listen to. Thanks for bringing forward this talent, Corey. I look forward to more. đź’“

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Su from Kalamazoo
    United States3 years ago
  • Thank you!

    Thank you for sharing this. I was struggling today, but that was washed away as I listened to the words from some amazing humans.

    I was able to walk into the hospital today standing taller, with more confidence and sense of belonging, instead of blending into the wall.

    Knowing that what I was headed there to do makes a difference, for the patient, staff and myself. I was able to set with a patient after making the decision to stop treatment, to be there, to listen and to talk of death. So, thank... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kelley1726
    United States3 years ago

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Audience notes the show helps articulate massage therapy's role in healthcare and education.
Listeners praise the host for clear research, professional storytelling, and engaging debates.
Many appreciate calls to action around standards, data, and collaboration.
Fans highlight humor and warmth that make complex topics accessible.
Listeners value the community feel and practical takeaways for practitioners and students.

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What is The Rub: a podcast about massage therapy about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful program examining massage therapy beyond the treatment room, featuring debates on professional identity, education, regulation, and the field's role in healthcare. Episodes frequently tackle systemic barriers, the economics of caregiving, and the potential for massage to integrate with broader health systems, sometimes exploring AI, education standards, and interprofessional collaboration. Noteworthy is a sustained focus on culture, safety, and the tension between idealism and practical constraints, all delivered with humor and a community-oriented lens that invites practitioners and allies to imagine meaningful change. Potential listeners who want to understand how massage therapy fits into healthcare policy, education, and so... more

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