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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals
Massage Therapy
Anatomy
Fascia
Mental Health
Budgeting
Financial Management
Pain Management
Scar Tissue
Personal Finance
Client Relationships
Continuing Education
Self-Care
Craniosacral Therapy
Ayurveda
Financial Planning
Connective Tissue
Chronic Pain
Sacroiliac Joint
Massage Business
Misinformation

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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Chris Callewaert
Scientist and inventor focused on armpit microbiome research and probiotic solutions
Ghent University / PHYOM (Future Biome)
Episode: Ep 586 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 2: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Katja Bartsch
Sports scientist, yoga teacher, and structural integrator
Technical University of Munich / Fascial Research Society collaborator
Episode: Ep 583 – Meet the Researchers: Hormones and Fascia with Katja Bartsch
Doug Nelson
Educator, practitioner, founder of the 22 Therapist Clinic, Bodywork Associates, and the CE Provider, Precision Neuromuscular Therapy
Precision Neuromuscular Therapy / PNMT
Episode: Ep 582 – The Power of Great Advice with Kristin Coverly
Dr. Joi Edwards
Massage Therapist, Physical Therapist, Silicone Cupping Expert and owner of Owlchemy Education
Owlchemy Education
Episode: Ep 582 – The Power of Great Advice with Kristin Coverly
Dr. Chris Callewaert
Research scientist known as Dr. Armpit, focuses on body odor and related microbiology
Ghent University / Lab researcher
Episode: Ep 580 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 1: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Elicia Crook
Massage therapist and podcast guest sharing a successful referral strategy
Episode: Ep 576 – Referral Strategy: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Caterina Fede
World-renowned fascia researcher, Department of Neuroscience, University of Padua
University of Padova (Padova, Italy) / Institute of Human Anatomy
Episode: Ep 574 - Meet the Researchers: Talking Tissues with Caterina Fede
Jarvis Leverson
Peak performance coach, best-selling author, founder of The Morning Hero
The Morning Hero
Episode: Ep 572 – Wake Up and Win with Jarvis Leverson
Sarah Trube
Massage therapist with FND diagnosis and advocate
In Life With FND (website and YouTube channel)
Episode: Ep 571 – Functional Neurological Syndrome: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

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Elicia Crook
Massage therapist and podcaster; host of Fully Booked; associated with ABMP Podcast Network and related health leadership programs.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 152 ratings
  • Widen the Circle, Please

    This review is specifically in response to the episode about misinformation with Allison Denney. This is a critical, timely topic that deserves a guest who doesn’t have anything to sell. When Denney refers to our services as products, that’s misinformation. In my state, products are taxed, services are not. Difficulty vetting online information is far from a generational problem. ABMP, you can do better by our profession on this topic.

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    HLE Lamb
    United Statesa year ago
  • Wish they’d bring other voices

    I used to love this podcast and listened to it constantly. The wealth of knowledge that was offered when they interviewed all kinds of people was so invaluable.

    Now it’s just the same two girls giving their own personal opinions, the anatomy talks are great but I don’t learn well with this style so the podcast sadly no longer offers me any insight. Really really miss the interview style podcast that was offered and would LOVE to see more of them and learn from a bigger bank of knowledge rat... more

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    McSqueezy99
    United States2 years ago
  • The Best!

    This is an extremely important podcast, straight forward and informative. Love it can’t wait for the notification when a new one is released!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chuck’s opinion
    United States2 years ago
  • Great information

    I just found this podcast and love it with only listening to two episodes. They were very different content and very relevant for massage therapist. As an instructor at NHI this will be a great resource for students and alumni to continue on their path in massage therapy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ka'iwi
    United States2 years ago
  • Yay

    Not an ABMP member so this podcast was missed until I chatted with Ruth and she mentioned her Podcast “I have a client who” which led me to this wonderful wealth of knowledge.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jimmyp3000
    United States2 years ago

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Ep 580 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 1: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Q: Do you work with patients or are you basically in the lab at this point or both?
The guest clarifies that he mostly works in the lab but is increasingly seeing people; he is not a medical doctor, and body odor is not a medical disease but has clinical and psychological dimensions relevant to counseling and care in practice.
Ep 580 – Interview with Dr. Armpit, Part 1: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Q: Dear, I have a client who, listeners, I'm doing something with this episode that I have not done before, which is offering you an interview in two parts.
The guest explains how he got the nickname Dr. Armpit, the focus on armpit odor and the approach of characterizing what lives in the armpit and how this relates to overall health and the skin-gut axis.
Ep 565 – The Anatomy and Physiology of Sports Massage with Dr. Portia Resnick: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Q: Let me ask you, Portia, at what point in this injury process were you brought into this? Was it pre-surgical post, and if post, how long after?
I joined the care team post-surgery, around four to six weeks after the injury when we started adding manual therapy and gradually reintroducing range of motion, ensuring we respected restrictions while addressing fascia and musculature.
Ep 574 - Meet the Researchers: Talking Tissues with Caterina Fede
Q: In case we don't already know this term, can you explain what neuro, immuno, endocrine regulation is and how it relates to the central and peripheral nervous systems?
These systems are interconnected rather than separate; peripheral input from touch influences local tissue and sends information to the brain, highlighting the integrated regulation of nervous, immune, and hormonal pathways in response to manual therapy.
Ep 554 – Exploring Aging with Kristin Coverly
Q: What would you like practitioners to know about working with older clients?
Dawn and Sheila emphasize the need for a strong technical foundation plus a deep emotional connection, practical environment adaptations, longer session times, and clear communication to meet the specific needs of aging clients.

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A practical, practitioner-focused show that blends anatomy, clinical techniques, and business-building guidance for massage and bodywork professionals. Across episodes, listeners encounter deep dives into specific muscles, fascia and tissue biology, mindset and leadership, practice management, and safe, client-centered care for complex conditions. Notable strengths include expert-led science explained in approachable terms, hands-on treatment strategies, and real-world coaching frameworks for growing a practice without burnout. This mix makes it valuable for therapists, clinic owners, and educators seeking evidence-informed guidance and actionable steps to improve client outcomes and practice sustainability.

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1. Chris Callewaert
2. Katja Bartsch
3. Doug Nelson
4. Dr. Joi Edwards
5. Dr. Chris Callewaert
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7. Caterina Fede
8. Jarvis Leverson

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