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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Associated Bodywork & Massage Professionals
Massage Therapy
Anatomy
Fascia
Mental Health
Budgeting
Financial Management
Pain Management
Chronic Pain
Scar Tissue
Personal Finance
Client Relationships
Continuing Education
Craniosacral Therapy
Self-Care
Ayurveda
Financial Planning
Connective Tissue
Sacroiliac Joint
Massage Business
Low Back Pain

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

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Troy Lavigne
Massage therapist, pain educator, and author of Pain! The Other 4-Letter Word
Episode: Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Til Luchau
Certified Advanced Rolfer, author, and lead instructor at Advanced-Trainings.com
Advanced-Trainings.com
Episode: Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Rachelle Clauson
Fascial system educator and owner of Flourish Bodywork
Fascial Net Plastination Project
Episode: Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Nicole Trombley
Massage educator specializing in pregnancy and postpartum massage
Equilibrio Massage
Episode: Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Ruth Werner
Writer, pathology educator, and author of A Massage Therapist's Guide to Pathology
ABMP
Episode: Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Elicia Crook
Therapist with a focus on lead ads and business growth in a remote area of New South Wales, Australia
Mastery program participant
Episode: Ep 599 – Better Use, Bigger Impact: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Allison Denney
Guest; Rebel MT advocate and practitioner
Rebel MT
Episode: Ep 598 – When a Client Doesn't Actually Want to Heal: "The Rebel MT" with Allison Denney
Anna Gabrielle
Physiotherapist and researcher at the Technical University of Munich
Technical University of Munich
Episode: Ep 597 – Meet the Researchers: Word Matters with Anna Gabriella
Doug Nelson
Founder of PNMT (Problem-Solving Neuromuscular Therapy)
PNMT
Episode: Ep 595 – Our Moment with Doug Nelson

Host

Elicia Crook
Massage therapist and podcaster; host of Fully Booked; associated with ABMP Podcast Network and related health leadership programs.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 156 ratings
  • Widen the Circle, Please

    This review is specifically in response to the episode about misinformation with Allison Denney. This is a critical, timely topic that deserves a guest who doesn’t have anything to sell. When Denney refers to our services as products, that’s misinformation. In my state, products are taxed, services are not. Difficulty vetting online information is far from a generational problem. ABMP, you can do better by our profession on this topic.

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    HLE Lamb
    United Statesa year ago
  • Wish they’d bring other voices

    I used to love this podcast and listened to it constantly. The wealth of knowledge that was offered when they interviewed all kinds of people was so invaluable.

    Now it’s just the same two girls giving their own personal opinions, the anatomy talks are great but I don’t learn well with this style so the podcast sadly no longer offers me any insight. Really really miss the interview style podcast that was offered and would LOVE to see more of them and learn from a bigger bank of knowledge rat... more

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    McSqueezy99
    United States2 years ago
  • The Best!

    This is an extremely important podcast, straight forward and informative. Love it can’t wait for the notification when a new one is released!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chuck’s opinion
    United States2 years ago
  • Great information

    I just found this podcast and love it with only listening to two episodes. They were very different content and very relevant for massage therapist. As an instructor at NHI this will be a great resource for students and alumni to continue on their path in massage therapy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ka'iwi
    United States2 years ago
  • Yay

    Not an ABMP member so this podcast was missed until I chatted with Ruth and she mentioned her Podcast “I have a client who” which led me to this wonderful wealth of knowledge.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jimmyp3000
    United States2 years ago

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Feedback often highlights the value of guest expertise and actionable strategies for clinics.
Listeners appreciate accessible, evidence-driven discussions that translate into practical practice.

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Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Q: What do you want practitioners to know about chronic pain?
Ruth Werner says chronic pain involves changes in the central nervous system and calls for a biopsychosocial approach that addresses biomechanics, mental and mood states, and social connection. She recommends compassionate, positive communication that gives clients agency.
Ep 601 – What We Need to Know About Pain with Kristin Coverly
Q: What do you want practitioners to know about fascia and pain?
Rachelle Clauson and Nicole Trombley explain that fascia has nerve endings that can receive threat signals, and they describe research connecting fascial changes with soreness and low-back pain. They suggest this can broaden how practitioners think about the tissues involved in pain.
Ep 599 – Better Use, Bigger Impact: "Fully Booked" with Elicia Crook
Q: What is the core idea behind using what you already have in your hand?
The core idea is that growth in a practice often comes from leveraging existing assets—lead ads, existing client relationships, and honest conversations—rather than constantly seeking new tools or campaigns. By reflecting on what you already know and have access to, practitioners can achieve meaningful bookings and revenue increases.
Ep 600 – Lymphedema and Cupping: "I Have a Client Who . . ." Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Q: How do you respond when a client says someone else did cupping and it was fine?
Firmly acknowledge the client's experience elsewhere, restate the safety rationale, and explain you cannot provide the contraindicated technique due to the client's medical history; offer safe alternatives and reinforce the boundary.
Ep 597 – Meet the Researchers: Word Matters with Anna Gabriella
Q: What would be a better option for terminology beyond myofascial release?
The host and Anna suggest naming the intervention itself (like form-rolling or stretching) and describing observed non-local effects, while avoiding presuming a specific mechanism.

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A practical, practitioner-focused show that blends anatomy, clinical techniques, and business-building guidance for massage and bodywork professionals. Across episodes, listeners encounter deep dives into specific muscles, fascia and tissue biology, mindset and leadership, practice management, and safe, client-centered care for complex conditions. Notable strengths include expert-led science explained in approachable terms, hands-on treatment strategies, and real-world coaching frameworks for growing a practice without burnout. This mix makes it valuable for therapists, clinic owners, and educators seeking evidence-informed guidance and actionable steps to improve client outcomes and practice sustainability.

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2. Til Luchau
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7. Allison Denney
8. Anna Gabrielle

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