PDA: Resistance and Resilience
Marni Kammersell and Chris WellsWelcome to PDA: Resistance and Resilience with Marni Kammersell and Chris Wells. Join us for conversations based on lived experience that explore the pervasive drive for autonomy, also known as pathological demand avoidance (PDA). Together, we examine the emotional logic of resistance, the complexity of internal and external demands, and how to live in integrity with this way of being in the world... more
| Publishes | Monthly | Episodes | 15 | Founded | a year ago |
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| Categories | Mental HealthEducationHealth & FitnessSelf-Improvement | ||||
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In episode 15, Chris and Marni are joined by Molly Herald, a therapist in Asheville, North Carolina, and the owner of Neuroabundant, a clinical education and community space for neurodivergent professionals. Marni and Molly first worked together pres... more
In episode 14, Marni and Chris mark the first anniversary of PDA: Resistance and Resilience the PDA way—a little late, and on our own terms. No guest this time, just the two of us reflecting on how our relationship to PDA has shifted over the year.
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In episode 13, Blake Boles joins Marni and Chris to talk about self-directed living and the search for purpose outside conventional systems. Founder of Unschool Adventures, Blake has spent since 2008 taking teens who don’t go to school on internation... more
Content note: This episode includes brief discussion of suicidal ideation, mental health crises, school avoidance and truancy proceedings, and harmful behavioral interventions.
In episode 12, Marni and Chris are joined by Diane Gould and Melissa McK... more
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- Tough for me to stay engaged
There are bits of gold scattered throughout the first two LONG episodes (can’t get through any more) but as a person who experiences pda, I feel frustrated that I have to stay engaged through a lot of vague banter and confessions in order to get to the nitty gritty: 1. What is it? Define and give short examples. What can it look like in adults, in children? Define and give short examples 2. Solutions and short examples
A good pod, just not for me.
Apple Podcasts4Ree Deemed
United States6 months ago - Every episode feels like coming home
I’m not sure how else to describe it - but listening to this podcast feels like a deep exhale. It’s just wonderful. Your voices are so needed and I’m so grateful this exists. I originally learned about Chris on AuDHD Flourishing so to hear the recent episode with Mattia was a lovely full circle moment. Would love to dive more into the existential piece and how it dovetails with giftedness. I loved the discussion in that episode around diagnostic language and the actual goal. I’ve personally fel... more
Apple Podcasts5Lunagirl75United Statesa year ago - THANK YOU!!
Like another reviewer stated, I felt very mirrored by both of you just listening to the first episode especially the struggle it’s been to working in capitalist systems and to have something on your calendar, even good things. 😱 I almost fell over when Chris described a work colleague telling her how “calm” she is. I experienced this the first time over 30 years ago. I too, was feeling VERY stressed at the time. I remember feeling a bit stunned and thinking that the contrast between inner and o... more
Apple Podcasts5LindaVSYUnited Statesa year ago - Learning a lot!!
I’m really excited about this show. Have felt mirrored by so many things shared. Lots to think about!!
Apple Podcasts5KjubeckUnited Statesa year ago
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Principles-based conversations rooted in lived experience explore autonomy, resistance, and how to navigate demanding environments. Across episodes, topics span PDA, giftedness, education reform, unschooling, and the interplay between personal identity and systemic structures. Notable is a consistent emphasis on practical strategies, mentorship, and community-building for neurodivergent families and caregivers, often bridging research with real-world experience. Expect thoughtful roundtables, guest experts, and voices that challenge conventional labels while centering resilience and authentic discourse for listeners seeking autonomy and supportive communities.
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1. Blake Boles
2. Diane Gould
3. Melissa McKenzie
4. Caitlin Hughes
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6. Sheldon Gay
7. Emma Nicholson
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