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Hosted by Don Berwick, MD, MPP, FRCP, and Kedar Mate, MD, Founder and CMO of Qualified Health, and Former President and CEO of Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI), Turn on the Lights is a podcast that aims to improve health care worldwide by shedding light on health care issues through thought-provoking conversations. By demystifying health care problems, we hope to activate both the public... more

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Healthcare improvement is never just about systems, measures, policies, or processes; it is fundamentally about people. In this special transition episode, Dr. Philip McAdoo introduces himself as the new host of Turn on the Lights, a podcast by the I... more

What happens after 150 conversations about the future of health care?

In this episode, co-hosts Dr. Don Berwick, Former Administrator and CMS President Emeritus at IHI, and Dr. Kedar Mate, Founder & CMO of Qualified Health-genAI for Healthcare and F... more

Health care should not be designed around fragments of a person’s life. It should be built around the whole person, with data, intelligence, and ownership working together.

In this episode, Nasim Afsar, author of Intelligent Health and former Chief ... more

Health insurance policy is complicated, but the consequences are deeply human.

In this episode of Turn on the Lights, Professor Jonathan Gruber, Ford Professor of Economics and Chair of the Economics Department at MIT, joins Don Berwick and Kedar Ma... more

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Nasim Afsar
Author of Intelligent Health; former Senior Vice President and Chief Health Officer at Oracle; former COO at UCI Health; former leader at UCLA Health
Author of Intelligent Health; Oracle Cerner background
Episode: Building Intelligent Health Around the Whole Person with Nasim Afsar
Jonathan Gruber
Ford Professor of Economics, MIT; former Director of the Healthcare Program at the National Bureau of Economic Research; key architect of RomneyCare and ACA
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
Episode: Health Reform, Affordability, and the Future of Coverage with Professor Jonathan Gruber
Bob Wachter
Professor and Chair, UCSF Department of Medicine
University of California, San Francisco
Episode: The Future of Medicine with AI: Dr. Bob Wachter on Opportunity and Risk
Rochelle Walensky
Infectious disease physician; former Director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
Harvard Medical School; Mass General Brigham; CDC (former)
Episode: Why Public Health Matters Most When You Don’t See It with Dr. Rochelle Walensky
Tom Frieden
Public health leader; former CDC Director; founder of Resolve to Save Lives
Resolve to Save Lives
Episode: Why Public Health Still Matters More Than Ever with Dr. Tom Frieden
Hugo Campos
Emeritus member of the Stanford Medicine e-patient advisory board; data liberation advocate
Various patient advocacy organizations; ICD user group
Episode: Why Better Questions Lead to Better Care with Hugo Campos
Meena Seshamani
Secretary of Health for Maryland; former CMS Administrator
Maryland Department of Health
Episode: How Maryland Is Testing a Different Way to Pay for Health Care with Dr. Meena Seshamani
Michelle Williams
Dean of the School of Public Health at Harvard University (former) and co-author
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
Episode: Why Public Health Keeps Getting Ignored Until It’s Too Late with Michelle Williams & Linda Marsa
Linda Marsa
Healthcare journalist, contributing editor for Discover
Discover, formerly Los Angeles Times
Episode: Why Public Health Keeps Getting Ignored Until It’s Too Late with Michelle Williams & Linda Marsa

Hosts

Don Berwick
Co-host and interviewer; Host of Turn on the Lights
Kedar Mate
Host of Turn on the Lights; Co-host introducing guests

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 66 ratings
  • Awesome podcast!

    Every month the interview is interesting and provocative. I always come away with great ideas and energy. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    With Deep Appreciation
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great episodes

    Really appreciate the interviews with Eric Reinhart, Mai Pham, and Dhruv Khullar among many others. Hearing about these efforts gives me hope. Keep up the good work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Primary Care For All
    United Statesa year ago
  • Integrating global perspectives

    Greater integration of global perspectives would attract a broader audience.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jamesy mcdonald
    Australiaa year ago
  • Fantastic Resource

    Last fall I started working at a hospital in a support role with very little healthcare experience. Soon after I started listening to Turn on the Lights to help me understand more of my new environment. I cannot tell you how much this has helped me with background contextual understanding that my colleagues take for granted. I also feel more up to date on current healthcare challenges and opportunities which allows me to contribute more in discussions surrounding planning and policy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sleepy Alaskan
    United Statesa year ago
  • Michelle Browder rocks

    Best podcast EVER

    Geriatric psychiatrist

    Abhilash Desai MD

    Boise, Idaho.

    IHI is a place I go to to maintain my optimism and trust in humanity.

    Hosts of the podcast are my modern heroes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    freethinker12345
    United States2 years ago

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Health Reform, Affordability, and the Future of Coverage with Professor Jonathan Gruber
Q: Was the ACA a mostly bipartisan effort, or were Republicans and Democrats at odds?
It was a bipartisan effort in its drafting, even though it became a symbol of partisan division. Senators from both parties contributed to the law's framework, and Republican involvement helped shape some features, though opposition intensified later as political power shifted.
Health Reform, Affordability, and the Future of Coverage with Professor Jonathan Gruber
Q: Can you explain the origins of the individual mandate and why it became central to the reform?
The mandate emerged from Massachusetts' experience: employers were already a default channel for insurance, but a significant uninsured population existed. The idea was to require individuals to have insurance to create a broad risk pool and to make insurance affordable through subsidies, balancing protections with incentives so insurers could price more fairly.
The Future of Medicine with AI: Dr. Bob Wachter on Opportunity and Risk
Q: What problems will AI solve in healthcare today, and what might be coming next?
AI is already helpful for drafting notes, patient encounters, and summarizing medical records, with growing use in decision support, but it requires ongoing human oversight and integration into existing workflows to be truly valuable. Over the next years, AI may expand into more sophisticated decision support and population-health insights, while education and system design adapt to keep clinicians essential in the loop.
How Maryland Is Testing a Different Way to Pay for Health Care with Dr. Meena Seshamani
Q: How does the Maryland model address AI and regulatory speed while ensuring patient equity and quality care?
The guest describes guardrails for AI, case-by-case clinician oversight for decisions influenced by AI, governance structures for state hospitals, and ongoing collaboration with industry to keep regulation adaptive yet protective against disparities.
How Maryland Is Testing a Different Way to Pay for Health Care with Dr. Meena Seshamani
Q: What were the big challenges and learnings from implementing Medicare's drug pricing negotiations and the out-of-pocket limit?
She explains the collaborative process with manufacturers, patients, providers, and payers, the emphasis on transparency, and the long-term goal of sustainable patient access while preserving incentives for innovation.

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What is Turn on the Lights Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on healthcare transformation, policy, and leadership, with extended conversations that unpack how systems deliver care and how data, equity, and technology shape outcomes. Episodes frequently thread together public health, payer-provider dynamics, patient safety, and the evolving role of AI and quality measurement in clinical practice. Noteworthy is a consistent focus on actionable reform ideas, real-world policy trade-offs, and cross-sector collaboration to improve health at scale. The tone blends expert storytelling, historical context, and practical insights from leaders across government, academia, and healthcare delivery, making it a strong fit for listeners who want deep, ideas-driven discussions with tangible implic... more

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5. Tom Frieden
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7. Meena Seshamani
8. Michelle Williams

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