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Perennial AF

Savanna Institute
Agroforestry
Sustainable Agriculture
Silvopasture
Perennial Agriculture
Chestnuts
Biodiversity
Sustainable Farming
Savanna Institute
Agriculture
Tree Crops
Climate Change
Hazelnuts
Plant Breeding
Canopy Farm Management
Ecosystem Services
Farm Bill
Wisconsin
Soil Health
Sembrando Vida
Permaculture

The Savanna Institute's podcast and blog about perennial agroforestry (AF) features interviews, questions from listeners, inside jokes, and more. Subscribe to Perennial AF to hear real AF conversations with some of the Midwest's top agroforesters and perennial farmers! More at www.savannainstitute.org/perennialAF

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You might think of windbreaks as a pretty basic form of agroforestry. You plant a row of trees -- probably evergreens -- and they grow up and block the wind. How hard can it be? They're the most common type of agroforestry in the Midwest by acreage, ... more

Savanna Institute's black currant researcher, Lily Hislop, traveled to Europe for a month this summer to learn about black currant breeding and harvesting from farmers and colleagues in France, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, and Scotland. In this epis... more

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How do you manage agroforestry alley cropping and silvopasture systems organically in the upper Midwest? Erik Hagan and Dave Hopey have spent years converting Savanna Institute’s demonstration farm north of Spring Green, Wisconsin from conventional c... more

Keefe Keeley, executive director of the Savanna Institute, sits down with host Jacob Grace to talk about Savanna Institute's selection as a finalist for the 2026 Food Planet Prize and share additional news and updates from the organization. Show note... more

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Erik Hagan
Farm Director, Savanna Institute (Valley Farm)
Savanna Institute
Episode: “You Don’t Want A Wall of Trees” - Getting Serious About Windbreaks with Erik Hagan
Lily Hislop
Lead blackcurrant and elderberry breeder at the Savanna Institute
Savanna Institute
Episode: "That's not what purple tastes like!" A tour of Europe (and black currants) with Lily Hislop
Keefe Keeley
Executive Director of The Savanna Institute
Savanna Institute
Episode: We’re A Food Planet Prize Finalist! An Update with Executive Director Keefe Keeley
Eliza Greenman
Fruit Explorer and Savanna Institute staff member
Savanna Institute / Midwest Apple Foundation
Episode: “They Gave Us Three Months” - Rescuing a Collection of Rare Kyrgyzstan Apple Trees with Eliza Greenman
Selena Warsaw-Lane
Owner of Future Fruit Farm and The Frozen Local
Future Fruit Farm; The Frozen Local
Episode: Wes Jackson and Selena Warsaw-Lane Receive Deep Roots and New Shoots Awards at the 2026 Perennial Farm Gathering
Wes Jackson
Co-founder of The Land Institute
The Land Institute
Episode: Wes Jackson and Selena Warsaw-Lane Receive Deep Roots and New Shoots Awards at the 2026 Perennial Farm Gathering
Sarah Kogonza
From Uganda, works with the International Crane Foundation
International Crane Foundation
Episode: At the World Congress on Agroforestry in Kigali, Rwanda with Lily Hislop and Jenn Ripp
Grace Bachman
Wildlife Conservation Society program participant
Wildlife Conservation Society
Episode: At the World Congress on Agroforestry in Kigali, Rwanda with Lily Hislop and Jenn Ripp
Laura Langbeen
Research associate at Laterite Rwanda
Laterite
Episode: At the World Congress on Agroforestry in Kigali, Rwanda with Lily Hislop and Jenn Ripp

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Jacob Grace
Host of Perennial AF

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 83 ratings
  • I could listen to this all day long.

    Podcast Addict
    5
    jloons42
    a month ago
  • Amazing In-Depth Explorations!

    I love this show. I am in the middle of my journey learning about land management and agroforestry and this show has really pushed my understanding and unlocked so many ah-ha moments for me. Love that many episodes are from a Wisconsin perspective since that’s where my land is, but the topics would be relevant for any in agroforestry. Highly, highly recommend this show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hawkswine
    United States5 months ago
  • Perfect for permaculture enthusiasts!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Ronyon
    10 months ago
  • Hope

    This is where i go when i need hope

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    noahnoahabc
    United States2 years ago
  • Excellent all around!

    Savanna Institute is doing great work, and this podcast is an excellent part of it. Jacob is a fantastic host!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ChuckAnderas
    United States3 years ago

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Listeners praise its depth and practical realism in agroforestry.
Guests and topics offer inspiring, actionable insights into perennial farming and ecological sustainability.
The host's expertise and Wisconsin-centric perspective are highly valued.

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"That's not what purple tastes like!" A tour of Europe (and black currants) with Lily Hislop
Q: What country had the best food?
France was highlighted for its strong food culture, extensive multi-course meals, and a tradition of long lunch and dinner hours, with black currant dishes appearing on menus.
"That's not what purple tastes like!" A tour of Europe (and black currants) with Lily Hislop
Q: Which country had the best trains?
Switzerland was cited as having the best train system with on-time service, clear signage, and a variety of routes that made travel easier, even if some tickets were tricky to manage.
“Living Roots: The Promise of Perennial Foods” Book Discussion with Liz Carlisle and Aubrey Streit Krug
Q: Why include poetry and visual art alongside essays in Living Roots?
To create a more immersive reading experience that mirrors the rhythm of cultivation and to help readers feel the beauty and emotional resonance of perennial landscapes, not just the technical details.
“Living Roots: The Promise of Perennial Foods” Book Discussion with Liz Carlisle and Aubrey Streit Krug
Q: If there's one big takeaway you want readers to have from the book, what would it be?
The two big takeaways are wonder at the power and practicality of perennials, and a sense of encouragement that other people's stories show feasible paths forward, even in the face of challenges and risks.
Stockbroker to Black Currant Breeder: The Dick McGinnis Story with Lily Hislop
Q: What did you learn from breeding black currants, and would you do it all over again?
McGinnis stated he would do it all over again, recognizing that while the costs were more than expected, the process of breeding itself was fulfilling and valuable.

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What is Perennial AF about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A field-focused program centered on perennial agroforestry, practical farming systems, and resilient perennial crops. Episodes frequently feature on-site farm tours, hands-on demonstrations (mulching, irrigation, planting), and in-depth conversations with researchers, farmers, and authors who explore economics, propagation, and ecosystem services of perennial agriculture. Notable throughlines include building farmer networks, advancing agroforestry in the Midwest, preserving genetic diversity, and connecting book projects and awards to real-world practices. The show often pairs technical detail with accessible storytelling, making it approachable for both practitioners and advocates curious about long-term profitability and ecological integ... more

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1. Erik Hagan
2. Lily Hislop
3. Keefe Keeley
4. Eliza Greenman
5. Selena Warsaw-Lane
6. Wes Jackson
7. Sarah Kogonza
8. Grace Bachman

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