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PBM Reform
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Pharmacists Fight Back Act (6610)
Long-Term Care Pharmacy
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Pharmacy Benefit Managers (pbms)
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Independent Pharmacies
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Patients Before Monopolies Act
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It's time to break the ice on pharmacy benefit managers' "drink the Kool-Aid" rhetoric! Join Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency as we host guests from across the healthcare industry to discuss pharmacy news, healthcare issues, & (of course) PBMs... over cocktails.

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Host Andrew Russell, PUTT Executive Director Monique Whitney, and cocktail crew regulars Chris Hobart and Kendra Korthauer dig into a patient access story that's flown under the radar: a mid-year contract dispute between long-term care PSAO/GPO MHA a... more

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Fresh off a marathon stretch on Capitol Hill, the PBM on the Rocks crew gathers to unpack two major wins for independent pharmacy: the House Oversight Committee markup of the Pharmacists Fight Back Act (H.R. 6610) and a Senate Armed Services subcommi... more

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PBM Problems, Self-Insured Contracts, & Taking Back Control of Independent Pharmacy

In this blockbuster episode of PBM on the Rocks, we’re thrilled to welcome a special guest who needs no introduction: Mark Cuban.

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Join the PBM OTR Cocktail Crew as they dive deep into the harsh realities facing independent pharmacies as we close out 2025. From the necessity of "side hustles" just to keep the lights on, to the dark side of AI in prior authorizations, the landsca... more

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Recent Guests

Philip Hommerding
Owner of Hunt Silver Lake Drug and Gift and LTC Prescription Providers
Hunt Silver Lake Drug, LTC Prescription Providers
Episode: Blister Packs and Bad Faith: PBMs and Long-Term Care Pharmacy
Greg Reybold
Special guest, PBM policy advocate
Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency
Episode: Congressional Hearings & Federal Legislation: Setting the Record Straight
Mark Cuban
Public figure guest discussing PBMs and healthcare reform
Cost Plus Drugs (as discussed in the episode)
Episode: Mark Cuban: Shaking Up the PBM Status Quo
Matt Ansay
Strews Pharmacy owner
Strews Pharmacy
Episode: Side Hustles, Rx Discount Cards, & the Prescription Benefit Mafia
Shane Jerominsky
The accidental pharmacist
Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency (PUTT)
Episode: Live Episode Part 2: PBM Reform, the Case for Unionization, & Finding Humor in Pharmacy
Maurice Shaw
The Dr of Comedy
Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency (PUTT)
Episode: Live Episode Part 2: PBM Reform, the Case for Unionization, & Finding Humor in Pharmacy
John Farina
Associate Director of Adegacy with the AIDS Healthcare Foundation
AIDS Healthcare Foundation
Episode: Legislative Recaps, PBM Retaliation, & the Community Importance of Independent Pharmacy
Kris Hobart
PUTT board member and independent pharmacy advocate
Pharmacists United for Truth & Transparency (PUTT)
Episode: Legislative Recaps, PBM Retaliation, & the Community Importance of Independent Pharmacy
Kris Ray
Independent pharmacist with decades of field experience
Independent Pharmacy practitioner
Episode: Legislative Recaps, PBM Retaliation, & the Community Importance of Independent Pharmacy

Hosts

Lauren Young
Host; frequent contributor on PBM policy and reform discussions
Andrew Russell
Host; co-host involved in moderating conversations and framing episodes

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 15 ratings
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    Best pharmacist podcast, very informative. Love all the curse words.

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A policy-forward show that centers on PBMs, pharmacy reform, and independent community pharmacy viability. Episodes frequently cover federal and state legislative momentum, coalition-building, industry perks and hidden costs, and real-world impacts on pharmacies, patients, and healthcare access. Guests range from advocacy leaders to industry practitioners and high-profile critics, often blending sharp analysis with practical steps for contract scrutiny, grassroots organizing, and public campaigns. A notable strength is turning complex policy battles into actionable takeaways for independents and allies, frequently with a dose of humor and accessible storytelling.

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