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Next Level Executive

Perrin DesPortes
Leadership
Next Level Executive
Entrepreneurship
Private Equity
Leadership Development
Perrin Desports
Execution
Partnerships
Group Practice
Dental Industry
Inflection Points
Health Care
Accessdso Solutions
Opportunity Costs
Sunk Costs
Four Freedoms
Dentistry
Partnership and Ownership In Dental Practices
Inspired Hygiene
HR For Health

For dentists ready to grow from practice owner to business leader. You built a successful dental practice. You show up, you produce, and by every visible measure you have made it. But somewhere between your second hire and your hundredth patient, a new question started forming: what am I actually building toward? Maybe you are wondering whether to bring on an associate, add a second location, or f... more

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I get more questions about Associate Dentists wanting to become Partners than any other topic. It doesn’t matter if it’s the structure or a buy-in versus an earn-in or even how to actually bring them into ownership.

These are all mechanical questio... more

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Practically every Associate at some point wants to become a Partner, and most Founders want their Associate to become a Partner. But “time served” is for prison sentences – not ownership in a business.

The reason most partnerships fail is because th... more

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One major difference that separates a great Clinician from a successful CEO is the ability to understand changing market dynamics while living through them. Timing can, in fact, be the make-or-break factor in your success.

In last week’s episode, I ... more

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Many Founder dentists have based their growth strategy on “scale for a sale.” If you’re one of them, you’re not going to like this episode. Today’s world of Private Equity-backed DSOs has become a house of cards when it comes to recaps and “second bi... more

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Bill Gross
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Episode: This is the Moment You’ve Been Waiting for
Geoff McIntosh
Owner of Princess Dental
Princess Dental
Episode: Creating a Business that Compliments Your Life: Dr. Ben Tolley & Dr. Geoff McIntosh
Ben Tolley
Owner of Tolley Dental Group
Tolley Dental Group
Episode: Creating a Business that Compliments Your Life: Dr. Ben Tolley & Dr. Geoff McIntosh
Ted Wegman
Co-founder of AccessDSO Solutions
AccessDSO Solutions
Episode: Partner Spotlight: AccessDSO Solutions
Bob Foss
Co-founder of AccessDSO Solutions
AccessDSO Solutions
Episode: Partner Spotlight: AccessDSO Solutions
Nate Tilman
Founder and CEO of Newport Family and Cosmetic Dentistry
Newport Family and Cosmetic Dentistry
Episode: Leadership in an Emerging Group Practice: Dr. Nate Tilman & Dr. Dan Hostrander
Dan Hostrander
Founder and CEO of Horizon Dental
Horizon Dental
Episode: Leadership in an Emerging Group Practice: Dr. Nate Tilman & Dr. Dan Hostrander
Gary Bird
Founder, President & CEO of SMC National
SMC National
Episode: Partner Spotlight: Gary Bird & SMC National
Jason Tanoory
Entrepreneur, successful dentist, multi-site practice owner, coach
Dental Lighthouse podcast host and coach
Episode: Chief Clinical Officer Workshop: Key Takeaways with Dr. Jason Tanoory

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Perrin Desports
Host of Next Level Executive Podcast focused on leadership, growth strategy, and scaling dental practices; frequently shares personal coaching and program offerings.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 34 ratings
  • I have the privilege of knowing Perrin personally, and what you hear on this podcast is exactly who he is. He's an exceptional teacher who cuts through the noise and delivers practical, no-fluff advice that you can apply immediately. Whether you're leading a single practice or building something much bigger, his insights on leadership, strategy, and growth are invaluable. If you're serious about becoming a better business owner and leader, this podcast belongs in your regular rotation.

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    5
    DrJonnyFisher
    6 days ago
  • Great Podcast

    Perrin is one of if not the most knowledgeable speakers on leadership and group practice operations. The podcast does a fantastic job of condensing fairly weighty topics into bite size portions. Would recommend it to any dentist trying to grow their business acumen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Toofguy11
    United States13 days ago
  • Great guy great podcast!

    Perrin gives more than he takes and because of that you know you can trust him. When navigating dentistry , one must ask what do the best do? That was my journey finding Perrin!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AndyyoonDMD
    United States19 days ago
  • No BS , To the Point

    Perrin does a great job in explaining things, state facts as they are. No BS, just straight talk. Absolutely love the podcast. I make sure I listen to every podcast as it comes. Thanks for helping dentists grow.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dr.Gud
    United States24 days ago
  • Great content

    I have had the pleasure of working with Perrin in several of different scenarios. He is a wealth of knowledge with dental leadership and as well as practice structure. Highly recommend the podcast and working with Perrin in any capacity.

    Brian Smith

    Palmetto Dental Arts

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mayeriver
    United States24 days ago

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Content consistently regarded as high-value education for leaders in dentistry.
Insights are practical and deeply applicable for growing dental practices.
Guests offer diverse perspectives from multi-location growth to coaching.
The host delivers clear frameworks and real-world examples over hype.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Maximizing Your Practice: My Interview with Dr. Tarun Agarwal
Q: What advice would you give young associates about building their careers and contributing to a practice's growth?
Tarun emphasizes savings discipline, mastering implant dentistry as an ATM for high-value cases, and developing a strong personal brand and communication skills to differentiate oneself and attract patients.
Maximizing Your Practice: My Interview with Dr. Tarun Agarwal
Q: What are the pillars of your MasterLine program and how do they translate into real-world growth for a single-location practice?
The program centers on six drivers—leadership, patient attraction, conversion, treatment, operations, and profitability—delivered through quarterly strategy sessions, one-on-one coaching, and monthly accountability to drive measurable practice growth.
Maximizing Your Practice: My Interview with Dr. Tarun Agarwal
Q: For those in my audience that may not know who you are, can you give us the quick background on your journey?
Tarun describes growing up modestly, starting several ventures, and ultimately building Raleigh Dental Arts while expanding into training through 3D Dentists, with a focus on simplifying dentistry and balancing work with life.
Partner Spotlight: Jon Fidler of Fidler & Associates
Q: What should owners consider when deciding between internal promotion and external hiring?
Owners should assess whether internal candidates have the leadership depth and broad perspective to scale the business, or if external hires can bring needed new strategies and speed to growth, all while balancing morale and cultural fit.
Leadership in an Emerging Group Practice: Dr. Nate Tilman & Dr. Dan Hostrander
Q: Nate, why don't I start with you? Can you share a bit of background on yourself and your practice journey?
Nate describes his path from Navy training to buying a Rhode Island practice, expanding to five total dentists across two locations, and balancing family life with a clinically-led leadership role as he grew the business.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Next Level Executive

What is Next Level Executive about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show targets dentists who want to scale from solo practice owners into multi-location CEOs, delivering practical, leadership-focused guidance rather than generic motivation. Episodes consistently cover topics like building teams that operate without the founder, evaluating associate partnerships, expanding locations, and managing growth with clarity and control. A recurring thread is turning clinical success into scalable, systemized leadership—often through coaching, governance, and real-world case studies from growing dental groups. A standout aspect is the emphasis on tangible metrics, governance frameworks, and personal development as core levers for sustainable expansion.

What sets this program apart is its practical, no-fluff app... more

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1. Group Practice Accelerator
2. The Dentalpreneur Podcast w/ Dr. Mark Costes
3. The Dental Lighthouse with Dr. Jason Tanoory
4. All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
5. How I Built This with Guy Raz

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1. Bill Gross
2. Geoff McIntosh
3. Ben Tolley
4. Ted Wegman
5. Bob Foss
6. Nate Tilman
7. Dan Hostrander
8. Gary Bird

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