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Sunday School Dropouts is a podcast hosted by trained therapists Dr. Laura Anderson and Andrew Kerbs. Both Andrew and Laura grew up in high control religion and spent years trying to live up to the rules and standards until one day, they couldn’t do it anymore. They spent our lives aspiring to be true followers of God and all they got from it was religious trauma.So now, they’re taking our lived e... more

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Last week the post religious/faith deconstruction community was faced with a loss of a voice and advocate in Ryan (RL) Stollar. Ryan’s death has opened up conversations that go beyond just this moment and are causing people to reflect and reconsider ... more

In this season finale of Sunday School Dropouts, Laura and Andrew look back on a landmark season dedicated to unpacking the pervasive and lingering effects of purity culture. Reflecting on what they learned, what surprised them, and where they find h... more

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In this episode of Sunday School Dropouts, host Andrew Kerbs is joined by memoirist and ex-Adventist advocate Melissa Duge Spiers to discuss her book, Holy Disobedience: Sex, Sin, and Secrets in the Biggest Church No One Knows. Melissa shares the inc... more

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Let’s talk about sex, baby! Today sex educator and creator of the Purity Culture Dropout brand and services, Erica Smith, joins us to talk about sex, comprehensive sex education and resources if you’re needing some remedial sex education after abstin... more

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Recent Guests

Melissa Duge Spiers
Former Seventh-day Adventist, author of Holy Disobedience: Sex, Sin, and Secrets in the Biggest Church No One Knows
Author
Episode: Holy Disobedience with Melissa Duge Spiers
Erica Smith
Experienced sexuality educator focused on purity culture exits
Purity Culture Dropout program
Episode: Let’s Talk About Sex, Baby! (Re-air)
Cody Harman
Certified fitness coach and nutritionist, LGBTQ advocate, trans man
Self-employed / Coach; LGBTQ advocacy
Episode: Transitioning out of Purity Culture (Re-Release)
Halley Kim
Writer and editor; former pastor's wife in conservative evangelicalism; author and editor for Tears of Eden and Feminism and Religion
Halley Kim (writer/editor); Tears of Eden; Feminism and Religion
Episode: How Deconstructing POWER Healed My Marriage
Nicole Clifton
Coach specializing in faith deconstruction, healing from purity culture, religious trauma and LGBTQIA+ identity
Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery
Episode: When the Body Keeps the Faith: Purity Culture and Chronic Pain
Ashley Buckner
Licensed marriage and family therapist, brain spotting practitioner
Private practice; LDS/purity culture focus
Episode: Purity Culture in the LDS Church
Ashley Dunston
A writer and former evangelical whose work explores the intersections of purity culture and diet culture.
Episode: Purity Culture & Body Shaming
Brandon Robertson
Renowned pastor, author and public theologian
Independent, LGBTQ+ activist
Episode: Reclaiming Faith as a Queer Person
Michelle Moseley
A licensed clinical mental health counselor with expertise in supporting adults harmed by high-control religious settings.
Episode: Neurodivergence and Purity Culture

Hosts

Dr. Laura Anderson
Host of the show; licensed therapist; trauma-informed practitioner
Andrew Kerbs
Co-host and interviewer; experienced clinician

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 119 ratings
  • So helpful!

    After growing up in a highly conservative Christian household, school and church, I have a lot of CPTSD to unpack and I wasn’t sure where to start. This podcast has helped me significantly with identifying and understanding the religious trauma I’ve experienced. It feels so good to finally start releasing the shame I’ve been hanging onto since childhood!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    QuesoQueen422
    United States8 months ago
  • Somewhat helpful

    A couple of these episodes were incredibly helpful having left the lds church and now leaving a fundamentalist evangelical church. I want to say that upfront.

    However, It’s hard to trust the hosts when they start mocking stories in the Bible. Not thoughtful disagreement or seeking to understand a different meaning but like full on mocking.

    While I totally understand the anger and resentment I think if it was more respectful and sounded like they were actually curious over trying to mock whatev... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    markasores
    United Statesa year ago
  • Fantastic And informative

    I love this podcast. I accidentally discovered it while listening to some podcast on somatic experiencing and they detailed the approach in an episode. Such a really important topic and I think today more so than ever!! I’m a therapist myself and I treat people with religious trauma and I think this is an absolutely fantastic podcast. Look forward to more episodes. Keep up the great work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lkwgofsu
    United Statesa year ago
  • Ehh 🤷🏻‍♀️

    I initially found Sunday School Dropouts with Dr. Laura Anderson helpful in the early stages of my deconstruction journey. The podcast tackles critical topics, and Dr. Anderson does provide some insightful critiques of evangelicalism. However, as time went on, I noticed significant flaws in the rhetoric that completely undermined its credibility.

    Her approach to conservative ideologies is alarmingly biased, often leaning on misrepresentations, out-of-context claims, and sweeping generalizations... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    FitnessPro6520
    United States2 years ago
  • Really Enjoy this Show & Looking Forward to Season 2

    So glad I found you. Left organized religion years ago. But am drawn to your experiences as survivors of fundamentalism and cultish influence. Looking forward to season 2. Keep up the good work. Laura, please consider tamping down your use of “yeah” when acknowledging what your co-host and guests are saying. Hearing it repeatedly is distracting. Thanks for all you do!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mama TCR
    United States2 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Feedback shows appreciation for trauma-informed clinical insights and survivor stories.
Some critiques note moments of perceived bias or pacing issues, but overall reception highlights helpfulness and validation for survivors.
Listeners view as a credible, empathetic resource for healing from religious trauma.

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Transitioning out of Purity Culture (Re-Release)
Q: What would you say to others in the LGBTQ+ community who are navigating religious trauma?
Trust your gut and your inner wisdom; you already know who you are, and healing comes from accepting that truth even if it takes time.
Transitioning out of Purity Culture (Re-Release)
Q: What initially drew you to therapy, and how did your therapy experience shape your coming out and transition?
Therapy provided a space to slowly disclose feelings, validate them, and gradually move toward social and eventual medical transition without pressure, showing that healing can be incremental.
How Deconstructing POWER Healed My Marriage
Q: What role did pluralism in belief and a more expansive view of spirituality play in healing?
Normalizing diverse beliefs for their children and embracing a guidance model that respects individual conscience helped reduce coercive control and supported healthier spiritual development for the family.
How Deconstructing POWER Healed My Marriage
Q: What was it like to begin deconstructing as a pastor's wife, given the expectations and power dynamics?
It was a painful but necessary process where questioning inequality and roles led to a mutual reevaluation of their relationship and professional paths, eventually enabling a move toward a shared, non-hierarchical partnership and healthier boundaries.
Purity Test, Perfectionism, and Power in Relationships
Q: What are some concrete ways to start healing from purity culture in relationships and move toward a values-based, embodied consent approach?
Emphasize repair over forgiveness, articulate needs and boundaries without shame, practice curiosity about one's own needs, and use a three-part framework (commitment, possibilities, consequences) to reconstruct authentic connection.

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What is Sunday School Dropouts about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on healing and recovery after leaving high-control religious systems, with therapists and survivors guiding conversations about purity culture, religious trauma, and deconstruction. Episodes blend clinical perspectives with survivor stories, aiming to normalize body autonomy, healthy relationships, and practical pathways to healing. Guests range from clinicians and trauma specialists to former insiders who share lived experiences, offering resources for listeners navigating faith transitions, identity changes, and wellness beyond oppressive religious norms. A notable throughline is the emphasis on compassionate, neuroscience-informed approaches (somatic and nervous-system-focused therapies) and community support to rebuild... more

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1. Melissa Duge Spiers
2. Erica Smith
3. Cody Harman
4. Halley Kim
5. Nicole Clifton
6. Ashley Buckner
7. Ashley Dunston
8. Brandon Robertson

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