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Optometrists Building Empires

Ankit Patel
Optometry
Myopia Management
Leadership
Private Practice
Dry Eye
Staffing
Burnout
Idoc
Entrepreneurship
Private Practice Ownership
EBITDA
Artificial Intelligence
Healthcare Administration
Akrinos
Dr. Fred Cho
Low Vision
Warm Start
Complete Eye Care Of Medina
Private Pay Plan
Vision Plans

Welcome to Optometrists Building Empires! Each week, host Ankit Patel, explores the journey of practice ownership and leadership in optometry with some of the top minds in his field. This show is sponsored by My Business Care Team: We help increase revenue, reduce costs, and reduce staffing headaches. Let's build your empire together!

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It is 2:15 on a Tuesday. A patient sits in her car with 15 minutes before her next meeting, contacts running low, finally ready to book the exam she has been putting off since April. The phone rings four times, five times, and about 30 seconds later ... more

Dr. Fred Cho is not a practice owner and never has been, yet he is building something most ODs do not know exists: a team of travel optometrists serving remote communities and filling a multi-provincial doctor shortage in Canada. Licensed in Ontario,... more

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A solo episode pulled from the iCareGrow series conversations. EBITDA gets thrown at practice owners every time a buyer makes an offer or a bank sizes a loan, and most owners nod along without knowing what it really measures. Ankit breaks it down in ... more

Dr. Nick Lillie cold-started Family Vision Optical in Allendale, Michigan right out of school in 2011. For years everything ran through him, until he faced the truth that changed everything: he was the bottleneck. In this episode, Nick and Ankit dig ... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Fred Cho
Travel optometrist; speaker on burnout; author and podcaster
Vogue Optical (consultant); author of Redesign Work; host of the 20 Happy Podcast
Episode: From Burnout to Building a Team of Travel Optometrists with Dr. Fred Cho
Nick Lillie
Owner and founder of Family Vision Optical and Rejuvenation Dry Eye Center; host of Optometry, The Ultimate OD
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Episode: Getting Out of Your Own Way: How Dr. Nick Lillie Doubled His Practice
Kevin Whaley Stefany
Founder of Autograph Eye; former CEO of The Eye Doctors / True Eye Experts
Autograph Eye; True Eye Experts
Episode: Scaling True Eye Experts as a Non-OD CEO with Kevin Whaley Stefany
Gina Wesley
Founder and owner of Complete Eye Care of Medina (Minnesota Practice)
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Episode: Gina Wesley, OD: The Private-Pay Playbook Behind Complete Eye Care of Medina
Mike Herrera
Co-founder and managing partner of Vision Now!
Vision Now!
Episode: Building 9 Rural Optometry Offices with Mike Herrera
Bethany Fishbein
Optometrist, practice management consultant and executive leadership coach
Leaders of Vision; Somerset Eye Care; The Touch and Vision; Milltown Vision
Episode: The Warm Start - Dr. Bethany Fishbein - Optometrists Building Empires - Episode # 098
Rupe Hantzera
Practice owner featured on the show
Optometry practice owner
Episode: Fix Your Staffing, Fix Your Practice - Compilation - Optometrists Building Empires - Episode # 097
Patrick Curran
Dr. Patrick Curran, Johnson Curran Optometry Centers
Johnson Curran Optometry Centers
Episode: Built Together: How Relationships, Systems, and Grit Created Three Thriving Practices - #096
Jeni Kohn
Dr. Jeni Kohn, Moses Eye Care
Moses Eye Care
Episode: Built Together: How Relationships, Systems, and Grit Created Three Thriving Practices - #096

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Ankit Patel
Host of Optometrists Building Empires

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 7 ratings
  • Love the new podcast!

    Super helpful content! Hearing the journeys of these docs is inspiring.

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Audience finds practical, real-world advice from practicing owners and leaders valuable for scaling careers.
Listeners appreciate candid storytelling about challenges like staffing and reimbursements.
Guests are perceived as experienced practitioners bringing actionable strategies.

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From Burnout to Building a Team of Travel Optometrists with Dr. Fred Cho
Q: How do you handle staffing challenges in remote care?
Focus on relationship-building, respect existing team workflows, introduce playfulness to foster cohesion, and maintain psychological safety to encourage experimentation and learning.
From Burnout to Building a Team of Travel Optometrists with Dr. Fred Cho
Q: What does a portfolio career look like for an optometrist?
It can include flexible clinical work, speaking, advisory roles, writing, and opportunities outside traditional practice, all tied together by a core clinical base and a passion-driven set of side projects.
From Burnout to Building a Team of Travel Optometrists with Dr. Fred Cho
Q: What was the most important thing that helped you build your empire?
Burnout pushed him to rethink his career path, leading to a focus on non-traditional roles like speaking, blogging, and consulting, which blossomed into a broader portfolio career and a team-based travel optometry model.
How Dr. Ashley Tucker Built a Myopia-Focused Eye Care Practice - Episode # 055
Q: How do you justify cash-pay myopia management to patients and families?
We frame it around the value: a dedicated doctor, a comprehensive year-long plan, a year's supply of lenses, and a concierge-level experience that aligns with long-term outcomes for the child.
How Dr. Ashley Tucker Built a Myopia-Focused Eye Care Practice - Episode # 055
Q: Why did you decide to become a practice owner, and what was the internal dialogue like?
I wanted to share the upside of ownership and collaborate with two partners; the journey was scary—large loan, revenue dependence—but two partners provided support and the decision ultimately doubled the practice.

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A show focused on building and leading optometry practices, featuring practice owners, leaders, and industry thinkers who share practical playbooks for empire-building in eye care. Episodes typically cover growth strategies, leadership development, staffing, marketing, reimbursement dynamics, and patient experience, with many guests recounting real-world journeys from single-location startups to multi-site enterprises. Notable themes include culture-first leadership, scalable systems, mentorship, and leveraging technology to differentiate independent practices. Listeners get actionable insights on acquisitions, private-pay transitions, branding, and sustainable profitability, with a clear emphasis on community impact and long-term successio... more

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Recent guests on Optometrists Building Empires include:

1. Dr. Fred Cho
2. Nick Lillie
3. Kevin Whaley Stefany
4. Gina Wesley
5. Mike Herrera
6. Bethany Fishbein
7. Rupe Hantzera
8. Patrick Curran

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