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Colonial Parkway Murders
FBI
True Crime
Virginia State Police
Victim Advocacy
Bryan Kohberger
DB Cooper
Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.
DNA Evidence
Forensic Science
Cold Cases
Alan Wade Wilmer
Criminal Minds
Cathy Thomas
Crimecon
Chowchilla Kidnapping
Zodiac Killer
Netflix
DNA
Rebecca Dowski

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive now living in Connecticut who is also the brother of a murder victim. His younger sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in now partially solved Colo... more

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Prosecutor Matt Murphy joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss latest developments in the Lindsay Clancy and Bryan Kohberger murder cases, as well as the Colonial Parkway Murders.

Daily Press: FBI links 1988 Colo... more

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley give you the insider's update behind the scenes of the podcast-- Kristin's recent writers workshop in New York City, Bill's plans for CrimeCon May 28, 2026 in Las Vegas, new leads in the Colo... more

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Joyce Call Canada, Doug Call and Steven Call as they share their disappointment and frustration with FBI Norfolk's allegedly closing the case in the 1988 disappearance of their ... more

Former FBI Agent Shawn Johnson and former bank robber Steven Meyers join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss their new Netflix series "How to Rob a Bank." The series tells the true story of how Shawn Johnson and an FBI ... more

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Recent Guests

Steven Call
Family member
Call family
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Joyce Call
Member of the Call family
Call family (Colonial Parkway Murders case)
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Doug Call
Family member and spokesperson
Call family
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Rita Williams
Investigative journalist
Freelance journalist (investigative reporting)
Episode: NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Analysis w Rita Williams
Randy Barnett
Prosecutor and author, law professor at Georgetown
Georgetown University Law Center
Episode: BONUS: Felony Review: True Crime and Corruption in Chicago
Troy Hillman
Author of Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter, The True Story of a Small Town Accountant, an elite group of detectives in Arizona's most terrifying cold case
Author, Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter
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Nicky Ali Jackson
Professor of Criminal Justice; Executive Director, Center for Justice and Exoneration Network
Purdue University Northwest
Episode: NEW: Purdue Northwest Center for Justice w Dr. Nicky Ali Jackson
Jonathan Rocks
Co-host of The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
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Episode: NEW: The Missing Candy Heiress (Part 1)
Beth McNamara
Co-host of The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
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Episode: NEW: The Missing Candy Heiress (Part 1)

Hosts

Kristin Dilley
Writer, researcher, and victim's advocate who hosts and researches true crime, with a focus on victims' rights and thoughtful analysis.
Bill Thomas
Host and co-host with a background in entertainment, focused on case context, interviews, and victim advocacy.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 718 ratings
  • Lindsay Clancy

    I just listened to this podcast today. I am glad you took the approach you did. Women’s mental health is very important and Lindsay’s situation is concerning. I hope the doctors have some culpability in this situation. We just had a mother try to kill 3 of her children and only one survived (Mandan, ND). It is so sad to hear of these stories.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Umbra Listener
    United Statesa month ago
  • Incredible Podcast

    In the last couple months I started listening to Mind Over Murder. This is an amazing, incredible, informative, and well planned out podcast. Bill and Kristen share with us the perfect combo of seriousness and humor on very serious and difficult matters. Plus their friendship and commitment to finding the bad guys shines through. The guests they have on are top notch too. I am working on catching up with five years of these and loving it. Please keep doing this outstanding work!! Thank you for a... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sportslover1320
    United States10 months ago
  • Very Good

    I’m a new listener to this podcast and it has quickly become my favorite. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kellipepp
    United Statesa year ago
  • Very interesting

    Good podcast, interesting guests, interesting cases, lots of research and preparation. Their analysis is always compassionate and sensible. I learn interesting facts and viewpoints from their podcasts. Both hosts are likable and chatty.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    debllstl
    United Statesa year ago
  • Please fix your audio.

    I don’t know what happened but I’ve been listening for a long time but sometimes is very wrong with your audio.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tamkatie
    United Statesa year ago

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BONUS: How to Rob a Bank (Part 2)
Q: Shawn, if you were to narrow it down to one question you really want to ask Scott, what would you ask him?
I would ask him to speak to what his true motivations were beyond money, perhaps about the force that drove him, and to acknowledge the trajectory that led to the confrontations and ultimate consequences, hoping for a candid explanation that ties the actions to a larger personal philosophy.
BONUS: How to Rob a Bank (Part 1)
Q: What was the FBI's challenge in catching them, and how did the task force adapt over time?
Shawn Johnson outlines shifting strategies from reactive to proactive, the role of press outreach, and the development of a multi-agency task force that tracked patterns, lead suspects, and used public information to guide investigations.
BONUS: How to Rob a Bank (Part 1)
Q: What initially drew Steven Meyers to bank robbery and how did that partnership form?
Steven explains that Scott was motivated by a long-standing fascination with bank robberies and that their partnership grew from close, practical collaboration including building disguises and planning around surveillance, which evolved into complex vault-focused thefts.
BONUS: Felony Review: True Crime and Corruption in Chicago
Q: Were there cases you prosecuted that you felt should not have gone to trial?
The guest says there were potentially cases that might not have stood up, but overall he avoided outright failures and discusses the responsibility of Felony Review in preventing weak charges.
BONUS: Felony Review: True Crime and Corruption in Chicago
Q: What does the Felony Review unit actually do?
It functions to verify evidence, prevent weak or wrongful charges, and sometimes reject cases where the evidence doesn't support prosecution, aiming to protect the innocent while ensuring the guilty are charged.

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Thoughtful, well-researched true crime discussions centered on cold cases, investigative methodology, victim advocacy, and responsible journalism. Episodes frequently feature law enforcement perspectives, forensic updates, and conversations with authors, filmmakers, and subject-matter experts, often tying legacy cases to broader questions about media ethics and accountability. A standout trait is the duo's balanced mix of empathy for families and rigorous analysis, plus a strong commitment to advancing case resolutions and victims' rights. This show is likely to appeal to listeners who value careful, context-rich storytelling and tangible investigative takeaways over sensationalism.

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2. Joyce Call
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4. Rita Williams
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6. Troy Hillman
7. Nicky Ali Jackson
8. Jonathan Rocks

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