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Colonial Parkway Murders
FBI
True Crime
Virginia State Police
Bryan Kohberger
Victim Advocacy
Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.
DB Cooper
DNA Evidence
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Cold Cases
Alan Wade Wilmer
Crimecon
Criminal Minds
Cathy Thomas
Chowchilla Kidnapping
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Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive now living in Connecticut who is also the brother of a murder victim. His younger sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in now partially solved Colo... more

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Join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas, with a panel of Victim's Impact Statements put on by the National Center for Victims of Crime (NCVC) including Bill Thomas speaking ab... more

Author Maria DiLorenzo joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book, "Confessions of the Green River Killer: A True Story of Manipulation, Madness and a Search for Justice." The book is drawn from two years... more

Join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas, with a CODIS gap panel with detective Lindsey Wade, being nominated for Best Podcast at the CLUE Awards, and a fascinating backstage c... more

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley answer listener questions in a brand new "Ask Us Anything" episode. We cover recent developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders. This is Part 3 in the new "Ask Us Anything" series, and cover... more

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Recent Guests

Maria DiLorenzo
True crime, criminal justice and prison reform writer; author of Confessions of the Green River Killer
Beyond the Crime
Episode: NEW: Confessions of the Green River Killer
Sheryl McCollum
Author of Swans Don't Swim in a Sewer; crime prevention advocate
Crime prevention/author
Episode: BONUS: Solving Flint River Killer's Daughter w Sheryl McCollum
Matt Murphy
Prosecutor, frequent guest on the show
Legal professional (prosecutor)
Episode: NEW: Prosecutor Matt Murphy on Lindsay Clancy, Bryan Kohberger, Colonial Parkway Cases
Joyce Call
Member of the Call family
Call family (Colonial Parkway Murders case)
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Doug Call
Family member and spokesperson
Call family
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Steven Call
Family member
Call family
Episode: NEW: Call Family Responds to FBI News in Colonial Parkway Murders
Shawn Johnson
Co-guest discussing the robbery operations and inside/outside coordination
not explicitly stated
Episode: BONUS: How to Rob a Bank (Part 2)
Steven Meyers
Co-guest author of The Treehouse and insider with firsthand experience of the events
The Treehouse (book)
Episode: BONUS: How to Rob a Bank (Part 2)
Rita Williams
Investigative journalist
Freelance journalist (investigative reporting)
Episode: NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Analysis w Rita Williams

Hosts

Kristin Dilley
Writer, researcher, and victim's advocate who hosts and researches true crime, with a focus on victims' rights and thoughtful analysis.
Bill Thomas
Host and co-host with a background in entertainment, focused on case context, interviews, and victim advocacy.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 717 ratings
  • Lindsay Clancy

    I just listened to this podcast today. I am glad you took the approach you did. Women’s mental health is very important and Lindsay’s situation is concerning. I hope the doctors have some culpability in this situation. We just had a mother try to kill 3 of her children and only one survived (Mandan, ND). It is so sad to hear of these stories.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Umbra Listener
    United States3 months ago
  • Incredible Podcast

    In the last couple months I started listening to Mind Over Murder. This is an amazing, incredible, informative, and well planned out podcast. Bill and Kristen share with us the perfect combo of seriousness and humor on very serious and difficult matters. Plus their friendship and commitment to finding the bad guys shines through. The guests they have on are top notch too. I am working on catching up with five years of these and loving it. Please keep doing this outstanding work!! Thank you for a... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sportslover1320
    United Statesa year ago
  • Very Good

    I’m a new listener to this podcast and it has quickly become my favorite. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kellipepp
    United Statesa year ago
  • Very interesting

    Good podcast, interesting guests, interesting cases, lots of research and preparation. Their analysis is always compassionate and sensible. I learn interesting facts and viewpoints from their podcasts. Both hosts are likable and chatty.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    debllstl
    United Statesa year ago
  • Please fix your audio.

    I don’t know what happened but I’ve been listening for a long time but sometimes is very wrong with your audio.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tamkatie
    United Statesa year ago

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Guests are top-notch and bring diverse perspectives to cases.
Sound and editing quality are mixed, but content depth remains strong.
Hosts are thoughtful and empathetic while doing rigorous case research.

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Talking Points

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NEW: Confessions of the Green River Killer
Q: To what extent do you think Gary was actually telling you the truth in your conversations?
DiLorenzo says Ridgeway was a pathological liar who sometimes told the truth, so she treated his claims cautiously. She believes law enforcement would need to investigate many of his statements to verify them.
NEW: Confessions of the Green River Killer
Q: What do you think Gary wanted to accomplish in engaging in a dialogue with you?
DiLorenzo believes Ridgeway wanted to control his narrative, especially as he grew older, and to have someone listen without focusing only on graphic details. She says he also tested her and tried to influence the conversations.
NEW: Prosecutor Matt Murphy on Lindsay Clancy, Bryan Kohberger, Colonial Parkway Cases
Q: What will the change-of-plea hearing look like for Kohberger, and could he actually withdraw his plea?
Withdrawal of a plea would require manifest injustice; it's unlikely, and the hearing would focus on motions and evidentiary considerations, with the likelihood of maintaining the plea and moving toward sentencing.
NEW: Prosecutor Matt Murphy on Lindsay Clancy, Bryan Kohberger, Colonial Parkway Cases
Q: Can the idea of sending a mentally ill person to a mental hospital for the rest of their life be structured like a life sentence, and how does that interact with current systems?
Prison is for punishment and public protection, while mental health facilities aim for restoration and rehabilitation; most states do not have indefinite life-in-hospital sentences, leading to periodic re-evaluations and possible releases if deemed non-threatening.
NEW: Prosecutor Matt Murphy on Lindsay Clancy, Bryan Kohberger, Colonial Parkway Cases
Q: How often is the insanity defense used and how successful is it?
Statistics vary by jurisdiction, but it is generally rare, with juries reluctant to acquit on insanity; success depends on expert credibility and the specific legal standard in the state.

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Thoughtful, well-researched true crime discussions centered on cold cases, investigative methodology, victim advocacy, and responsible journalism. Episodes frequently feature law enforcement perspectives, forensic updates, and conversations with authors, filmmakers, and subject-matter experts, often tying legacy cases to broader questions about media ethics and accountability. A standout trait is the duo's balanced mix of empathy for families and rigorous analysis, plus a strong commitment to advancing case resolutions and victims' rights. This show is likely to appeal to listeners who value careful, context-rich storytelling and tangible investigative takeaways over sensationalism.

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