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Colonial Parkway Murders
FBI
True Crime
Virginia State Police
Victim Advocacy
Alan Wade Wilmer Sr.
Bryan Kohberger
DB Cooper
DNA Evidence
Forensic Science
Ted Bundy
Cold Cases
Alan Wade Wilmer
Cathy Thomas
Crimecon
Criminal Minds
Forensic Psychology
Chowchilla Kidnapping
Zodiac Killer
Rebecca Dowski

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive now living in Connecticut who is also the brother of a murder victim. His younger sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in now partially solved Colo... more

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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the case of Georgia father Colin Gray, who was found guilty of supplying his troubled son Colt with an AR-15 style assault rifle which the son used in a 2024 school shooting which kil... more

"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by former Phoenix police detective Troy Hillman to discuss his powerful new true crime book "Chasing Down the Zombie Hunter: The True Story of a Small Town Accountant, an Elite Gro... more

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they welcome best selling author Casey Sherman to discuss his new book, THE KILLER AND FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT, which tells shocking true story of a mass murder at Taliesen, one of his fam... more

Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the Colonial Parkway Murders investigation with retired Virginia State Police Captain Danny Plott. Danny was one of the lead investigators in the Parkway case. Where did ... more

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Recent Guests

Danny Plott
Retired Virginia State Police investigator
Virginia State Police
Episode: NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Investigator Danny Plott (Part 1)
Nicky Ali Jackson
Professor of Criminal Justice; Executive Director, Center for Justice and Exoneration Network
Purdue University Northwest
Episode: NEW: Purdue Northwest Center for Justice w Dr. Nicky Ali Jackson
Andrew Goldman
Journalist and podcaster, author of Dead Certain
Dead Certain podcast
Episode: BONUS: Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder (Part 2)
Beth McNamara
Co-host of The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
Episode: NEW: The Missing Candy Heiress (Part 2)
Jonathan Rocks
Co-host/producer of The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
The Missing Candy Heiress Podcast
Episode: NEW: The Missing Candy Heiress (Part 2)
Maureen O'Connell
25-year FBI veteran and Evidence Response Team member
FBI
Episode: BONUS: Real Crime Profile/BCWC Covers Colonial Parkway Murders
Mel Kohberger
Sister of Bryan Kohberger, interview subject in NYT piece
Episode: BONUS: Serial Killers Hiding in Plain Sight (Part 2)
Sheryl McCollum
Crime scene investigator and advocate, author of Swans Don't Swim in a Sewer
Cold Case Investigative Research Institute (non-profit)
Episode: NEW: Solving Flint River Killer's Daughter w Sheryl McCollum
Shawn Johnson
Retired FBI agent, former task force lead on Hollywood Bank Robbery
FBI
Episode: NEW: How to Rob a Bank (Part 1)

Hosts

Kristin Dilley
Writer, researcher, and victim's advocate who hosts and researches true crime, with a focus on victims' rights and thoughtful analysis.
Bill Thomas
Host and co-host with a background in entertainment, focused on case context, interviews, and victim advocacy.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 717 ratings
  • Incredible Podcast

    In the last couple months I started listening to Mind Over Murder. This is an amazing, incredible, informative, and well planned out podcast. Bill and Kristen share with us the perfect combo of seriousness and humor on very serious and difficult matters. Plus their friendship and commitment to finding the bad guys shines through. The guests they have on are top notch too. I am working on catching up with five years of these and loving it. Please keep doing this outstanding work!! Thank you for a... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sportslover1320
    United States8 months ago
  • Very Good

    I’m a new listener to this podcast and it has quickly become my favorite. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kellipepp
    United States9 months ago
  • Very interesting

    Good podcast, interesting guests, interesting cases, lots of research and preparation. Their analysis is always compassionate and sensible. I learn interesting facts and viewpoints from their podcasts. Both hosts are likable and chatty.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    debllstl
    United Statesa year ago
  • Please fix your audio.

    I don’t know what happened but I’ve been listening for a long time but sometimes is very wrong with your audio.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tamkatie
    United Statesa year ago
  • Sound quality

    I enjoy this podcast very much. The hosts really do their research and homework. The only issue I have is that the sound quality is often poor. I don’t know if it’s their microphones or what?

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Alygram
    United Statesa year ago

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Guests are top-notch and bring diverse perspectives to cases.
Sound and editing quality are mixed, but content depth remains strong.
Hosts are thoughtful and empathetic while doing rigorous case research.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

BONUS: Cathy Thomas/Rebecca Dowski CPM Murder Solved (Part 3)
Q: What was the status of the DNA evidence and what specifically was tested?
The hosts explain that DNA testing had previously not yielded a hit on Cathy's clothing items, but advances in DNA technology allowed a male DNA profile to be found on Becky's bra; the exact nature of the DNA (saliva, semen, blood, or touch DNA) was not disclosed by the FBI.
BONUS: Dead Certain: The Martha Moxley Murder (Part 2)
Q: Why a podcast?
Andrew Goldman explains that his experience with reporting and documentary work, plus the desire to expand on reporting beyond a book, motivated the creation of Dead Certain as a podcast that could explore deeper angles and evidence with more time and focus.
NEW: Purdue Northwest Center for Justice w Dr. Nicky Ali Jackson
Q: How common are wrongful convictions?
Dr. Jackson emphasizes that even a single wrongful conviction is unacceptable and notes that estimates vary widely, but a commonly cited ballpark is around 6% of inmates, with federal cases generally harder to overturn due to higher thresholds and resources. She also explains that wrongful convictions are rare relative to total cases, yet still represent a meaningful portion that justifies dedicated advocacy and research.
BONUS: Cold Red FBI Profilers React to Colonial Parkway Solve
Q: What was the evidence and investigative technique that helped solve the case?
DNA testing and the use of an outside lab (DNA Labs International) retested evidence from Cathy and Becky's cases, revealing Wilmer's DNA on Becky's bra and strengthening the link to him, which the investigators described as a pivotal factor in solving at least part of the case.
BONUS: Ancestry.com Rules Block Law Enforcement Searches
Q: What impact have you seen from new detective involvement on cases you've worked on?
New detectives with open minds have revisited old leads, leading to confessions or new directions, and improved collaboration with families and crowdsourcing teams.

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Thoughtful, well-researched true crime discussions centered on cold cases, investigative methodology, victim advocacy, and responsible journalism. Episodes frequently feature law enforcement perspectives, forensic updates, and conversations with authors, filmmakers, and subject-matter experts, often tying legacy cases to broader questions about media ethics and accountability. A standout trait is the duo's balanced mix of empathy for families and rigorous analysis, plus a strong commitment to advancing case resolutions and victims' rights. This show is likely to appeal to listeners who value careful, context-rich storytelling and tangible investigative takeaways over sensationalism.

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1. Danny Plott
2. Nicky Ali Jackson
3. Andrew Goldman
4. Beth McNamara
5. Jonathan Rocks
6. Maureen O'Connell
7. Mel Kohberger
8. Sheryl McCollum

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