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Disarming Leviathan Podcast

Caleb E. Campbell
Christian Nationalism
American Christian Nationalism
Evangelicalism
Christianity
Donald Trump
New Testament
Politics
Democracy
Evangelical Church
Refugees
Civic Engagement
Social Justice
Racial Justice
American Democracy
Political Polarization
Fear and Anxiety
Masculinity
Lethal Injection
Death Penalty
United States

The Disarming Leviathan Podcast features interviews with Christian leaders, authors and scholars that will give you a better understanding of American Christian Nationalism and equip you with tools to reach Christian Nationalists as a mission field. disarmingleviathan.substack.com

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What happens after Christian nationalism begins to lose its grip? In this episode, Soong-Chan Rah argues ... more

Why does the Old Testament contain so much violence, and what does it reveal about the character of God? In this episode, Charlie Trimm helps us wrestle with some of Scripture’s most difficult passages, from Joshua’s conquest of Canaan to the prophet... more

The book of Revelation is often treated as a roadmap for the end times, a justification for violence, or a source of fear. But what if its central message is something entirely different? In this episode, David Mathewson helps us read Revelation thro... more

Violence in the Bible often leaves believers disoriented—how do we reconcile the raw, gritty realism of biblical stories with our understanding of a loving God? Andy Judd unpacks the genre, history, and cultural context behind biblically violent mome... more

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Recent Guests

Soong-Chan Rah
The guest, scholar and author discussed in-depth theories of narrative and nationalistic imagination
Professor (academic) and author
Episode: The Narrative Beneath Christian Nationalism w/ Soong-Chan Rah
Charlie Trimm
Scholar and professor, Biola University
Biola University
Episode: Biblical Violence & Political Violence w/Charlie Trimm
David Mathewson
Author and Revelation scholar
Author focusing on Revelation
Episode: Disarming Revelation w/ David Mathewson
Andy Judd
Old Testament educator and author
Independent (author/teacher)
Episode: Understanding Violence in the Bible w/ Andy Judd
Dan Hawk
Author of Undoing Manifest Destiny; theologian who teaches at Ashland Theological Seminary
Ashland Theological Seminary / Author
Episode: How Biblical Conquest Stories Shaped America’s National Myth w/ Dan Hawk
David Montgomery
David Montgomery, also known as Monty, expert on Christian nationalism and Irish history
IFES Europe / The International Fellowship of Evangelical Students
Episode: Lessons from Northern Ireland: Christian Nationalism, Fear, and the Witness of the Church w/ David Montgomery
Warren Throckmorton
Episode: The Founding Fathers and Christian Nationalism w/ Warren Throckmorton
Michael Rhodes
Author of Just Discipleship and Reimagining Biblical Politics
Carey Baptist College
Episode: Reimagining How the Bible Influences Our Politics w/ Michael Rhodes
Margaret Bronson
Guest who shares her lived experience inside the Christian nationalist movement and discusses its impact on individuals and communities.
Episode: How Authoritarian Theology Shapes Christian Nationalism w/ Margaret Bronson

Host

Caleb Campbell
Host with focus on missional engagement and Christian nationalism; guides conversations and introductions.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 71 ratings
  • Outstanding Podcast

    Loved your book and so appreciate this podcast. You’ve helped me to listen more and talk less to others. We certainly live in confusing times but am very grateful for clarity you are bringing to this conversation of Christian Nationalism.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Janet Bean
    United States2 years ago
  • Relevant and Engaging

    Caleb E. Campbell in conversation with a variety of people of faith who care about how to live wisely and effectively within the tension of faith and politics. Very helpful. Thank you Caleb and all of the guests!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    littlegale
    United States2 years ago
  • Such insightful conversations

    I am grateful for this resource for making sense of the relationships between power, psychology, Faith, language, community, affiliation, and worldview and how they get expressed in public discourse and personal and political relationships. I value particularly this forum where people of Faith can explore the complex and sensitive issues that cut us to the quick and dishearten us. I leave listening feeling buoyed by the knowledgeable, gentle, piercing and peaceful voices. May your tribe increa... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ARJSC
    United States2 years ago

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Compassionate approach to controversial topics.
Engaging, thoughtful exploration of faith and politics.
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Biblical Violence & Political Violence w/Charlie Trimm
Q: How can someone discuss these texts with a relative who cites biblical violence to justify modern acts of war?
Ask clarifying questions, bring up complementary texts that offer different approaches to the same themes (e.g., Joshua vs. the end-of- Judges mercy), and shift the conversation toward justice, integrity, and the avoidance of oppression in contemporary practice.
Biblical Violence & Political Violence w/Charlie Trimm
Q: What effect does the biblical theology of a divine warrior have on ethical thinking today?
It shows that even within a divine warrior framework there is room for pacifism and careful critique of violence; readers should distinguish between imitating God's justice and taking justice into human hands, recognizing the ongoing tension between righteousness and potential injustice.
Understanding Violence in the Bible w/ Andy Judd
Q: Andy, how should we understand a Bible that contains violence and difficult passages?
The Bible is written for real world contexts and should be read with attention to genre, history, and overall narrative leading toward justice and peace through Jesus, not as a simple instruction manual.
How Biblical Conquest Stories Shaped America’s National Myth w/ Dan Hawk
Q: Dan, you wrote a book called Undoing Manifest Destiny. Tell us what is Manifest Destiny and why undoing it is something that we should think about.
Manifest Destiny was an expansionist idea that framed westward growth as a divinely sanctioned mission, which over time provided theological cover for violence and dispossession against Indigenous peoples. Undoing it requires acknowledging the harm, honestly examining the myths we tell about America, and pursuing truth-telling and reconciliation rather than glorifying conquest.
Immigrants and American Christian Nationalism w/ John Marc Sianghio
Q: How can these immigrant expressions inform our understanding of church and state and how politicians use faith in public life?
By showing that immigrant communities often reinterpret symbols and rituals, we can foster a more robust, less antagonistic view of faith in politics, emphasizing inclusion, mutual care, and a critical eye toward exclusionary uses of religion in public life.

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A show that centers conversations on faith, politics, and culture, with a focus on Christian nationalism, biblical interpretation, and the role of the church in public life. Episodes frequently dissect historical myths, explore the ethics of nationalism, and highlight refugee advocacy, immigration policy, and interfaith understanding. Guests range from scholars and pastors to activists, offering both critique and constructive pathways for engaging faith communities in public discourse. The series tends to emphasize humility, dialogue, and practical faith-based action, often urging listeners to seek reconciliation, truth-telling, and compassionate engagement across divides. A notable strength is its willingness to challenge entrenched narrat... more

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