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AI-Native Accounting

Presented by Digits
Artificial Intelligence
Digits
AI In Accounting
Private Equity
Accounting
Accounting Today Top 100 Firms and Regional Leaders Report
AICPA
Change Management
Transformation Economy
Agentic AI
Cohnreznick
CAS
Genai
Mcps (model Context Protocols)
Artificial Intelligence (AI) In Accounting
Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A)
Kimberly Ellison-Taylor
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Public Accounting / CPA Profession
Education and Talent Pipeline

Hosted by Kacee Johnson, fintech innovation leader and Principal at Radical, AI-Native Accounting is the podcast at the crossroads of AI and the future of finance. Engage in monthly discussions with firm owners, tech pioneers, and visionary accountants. Explore real-world applications of AI, uncovering how it's streamlining processes and enhancing decision-making. Discover what's working, what's e... more

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The biggest challenge facing accounting firms isn't learning AI.

It's helping junior accountants build six years of business acumen in a fraction of the time.

Former AICPA CEO Barry Melancon discusses the future of the profession, from AI-powered a... more

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"We can't go out and just upload tax returns to ChatGPT because it's gonna be faster."

Barry Brown, founder of EBITDA Advisors, joins Kacee Johnson and Bebe Kim to explain why the future belongs to firms that adopt AI deliberately, not recklessly. ... more

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Were we wrong about how AI would change work?

Pascal Finette, Co-Founder & Chief Heretic of radical, joins Kacee Johnson to explore why AI is impacting cognitive work faster than routine work and what that means for organizations trying to adapt.

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“You're not going to take an old process and fit it into a new tech box.”

Carla McCall believes the firms struggling most with AI are often the ones trying hardest to preserve the way they’ve always operated.

As Managing Partner of AAFCPAs and form... more

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Most accounting firms are jumping into AI headfirst, buying tools, chasing models, and wondering why nothing is sticking.

Thomas DeMayo, AI lead at PKF O'Connor Davies, one of the top 20 accounting firms in the country, has a different approach enti... more

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If AI can deliver the outputs, why would clients still pay for the accountant?

Allan Koltin, CEO of Koltin Consulting Group, joins Kacee Johnson to explore how accounting firms must evolve from service providers to value creators in a rapidly changi... more

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We may be overestimating AI adoption today, and underestimating its long-term impact.

Kimberly Ellison-Taylor, Founder and CEO of KET Solutions LLC and past Chair of the AICPA, joins Kacee Johnson to explore how leaders are preparing for a more AI e... more

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In accounting, complexity has never been higher, and neither has opportunity.

With Top 100 firms growing 8.58% in 2025, Daniel Hood, Editor-in-Chief of Accounting Today, joins Kacee Johnson to unpack why firms between below $1B are outperforming the... more

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Barry Melancon
Longtime CPA leader; former CEO of the AICPA; Chair of Baker Tilly International
Baker Tilly International
Episode: The Longest-Serving AICPA CEO on What Comes Next | Barry Melancon
Barry Brown
Advisory Council member; former CIO/COO of a top 200 firm
EBITDA Advisors
Episode: Why Small Firms No Longer Need a Big Budget to Win
Bebe Kim
Lawyer by trade; leads Digits market
Digits / AI Foundation
Episode: Why Small Firms No Longer Need a Big Budget to Win
Pascal Finette
Friend and colleague at Radical; former executive at eBay, Mozilla, Google, Singularity University; author
Radical
Episode: Pascal Finette on What Clients Pay Accountants For, Outlearning AI and the Future of Firms
Carla McCall
Managing partner of AAFCPAs, former chair of the AICPA
AAFCPAs
Episode: Why Culture Beats Capital in Building Independent CPA Firms | Carla McCall
Tom DeMayo
Partner and National Leader of Technology Industry Services at PKF O'Connor Davies
PKF O'Connor Davies
Episode: A Top 20 Accounting Firm's AI Playbook, Without the Hype | Tom DeMayo, PKF
Allan Koltin
CEO of Koltin Consulting Group; influential advisor to public accounting firms
Koltin Consulting Group
Episode: Accounting’s Biggest Shift in 100 Years | Allan Koltin
Kimberly Ellison-Taylor
Past chair of the AICPA; board member at US Bank, Mutual of Omaha, Marathon Petroleum; educator at Carnegie Mellon
AICPA; Oracle; KPMG; Carnegie Mellon University
Episode: The AI Advantage Accounting Firms Aren't Seeing Yet
Dan Hood
Editor-in-chief of Accounting Today
Accounting Today
Episode: PE, M&A, and AI: What Accounting Firms Need to Know Now for 2026

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Kacee Johnson
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The Longest-Serving AICPA CEO on What Comes Next | Barry Melancon
Q: Why do you insist on calling the field a profession, not an industry, and how does that distinction shape education and training for the next generation?
A profession carries a commitment to continuous learning, ethics, and long-term societal value beyond just hours worked. Education and training must balance theory with practical, technology-enabled learning, fostering a track that accelerates business acumen while maintaining professional ideals and societal obligations.
The Longest-Serving AICPA CEO on What Comes Next | Barry Melancon
Q: How should firms think about AI's role in supporting the trust element in audit and assurance practices?
In the short run, assurance is a growth area due to AI, as clients demand greater trust. Firms must address AI-generated outputs with thorough testing, robust documentation, and clear indications of whether outputs are AI-created or independently verified, with a rapid evolution of audit processes.
The Longest-Serving AICPA CEO on What Comes Next | Barry Melancon
Q: By 2030, there will be no tax compliance work being done by human preparers. What do you think of that bold claim, and do you have any predictions for 2030?
Humankind evolves at different paces, so I doubt there will ever be none. However, the core idea is that tax compliance will be transformed, with much of the work automated and performed in new, more technologically assisted ways, while human judgment remains essential for strategy and interpretation.
Low-Code AI: The Future of Accounting? | Joe Woodard
Q: What should firms do first to start adopting AI?
The first step is to start a conversation with a privatized AI tool like ChatGPT, then progressively treat the AI like an employee by instructing it clearly to perform tasks, such as building a worksheet or processing payroll data, and gradually scale up to more complex automation.
PE, M&A, and AI: What Accounting Firms Need to Know Now for 2026
Q: What are the top insights and takeaways from this year's findings?
Growth for the top 100 is higher than last year, boosted by mega-mergers, while smaller firms show strong double-digit growth; M&A is the main driver, with PE-backed platforms accelerating consolidation and pushing broader technology adoption across firms.

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