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Two IPs In A Pod

CIPA
Intellectual Property
European Patent Office
Patents
Trademarks
Sports Technology
INTA
Artificial Intelligence
Carbon Capture Technology
Equality, Diversity, and Inclusion
Genericide
Unified Patent Court
Patent Law
IP Inclusive
Copyright
TRIPS Agreement
CIPA
Climate Change
Social Mobility
Men's Mental Health
Trademark Law

Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davi... more

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Recent Guests

Rob Williams
Former partner and co-head of the IP department at Bird & Bird
Bird & Bird
Episode: Retirement Identity Reset
James Nurton
IP journalist and guest on the podcast
Independent IP journalist (freelance)
Episode: Behind the Headlines: James Nurton on IP Journalism
Ken Seddon
CEO of LOT Network
LOT Network
Episode: How LOT Network is tackling Patent Risk: Insights from Ken Seddon
Tammy Terry
Patent litigator and partner at Nelson Mullins
Nelson Mullins
Episode: The Future of Global Patent Litigation
Daniel Chew
UK and European partner attorney and UPC representative
Hazelton Lake Chemna
Episode: The Future of Global Patent Litigation
Kayleigh Nauman
UKIPO North American Intellectual Property Attaché (US, Canada, Mexico)
UK Intellectual Property Office
Episode: Protecting IP Across Borders: Insights
Adin Samson
IPO Europe Attaché
UK Intellectual Property Office
Episode: Protecting IP Across Borders: Insights
Samuel Stone
IPO China Attaché (former)
UK Intellectual Property Office
Episode: Protecting IP Across Borders: Insights
Deborah Hampton
INTA President
INTA
Episode: Inside IP Leadership with INTA President Deborah Hampton

Hosts

Lee Davies
Host of the podcast and guiding interview discussions; associated with CIIPA/CIPA roles.
Gwilym Roberts
Co-host guiding discussions with guests and framing IP topics.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 32 ratings
  • This is great!

    You’d think I’d have enough of intellectual property working in the industry, but Lee and Gwilym always seem to make even the most technical subjects entertaining as well as informative. Nice work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MattMakesFire
    United Kingdom2 years ago
  • Great pod about innovation with top guests. Can be funny too! Recommended!

    Podchaser
    5
    Neil Lampert
    4 years ago
  • Great little pod on patents and IP

    Likeable hosts present chats with a variety of people from the world of UK intellectual property. Of particular interest for tortoise lovers.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    trendmonger
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • Interesting topics surrounding IP

    Great range of topics and not too heavy on the detail!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tpwt-1
    United Kingdom6 years ago
  • Good IP podcast

    Fun podcast for IP. Def worth a listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Worlverine
    United Kingdom6 years ago

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Hosts balance technical IP topics with accessible business context, making complex subjects engaging.
A diverse range of guests maintains high signal on global IP policy and practice.
Some listeners feel the format can be very IP-heavy, which may be dense for newcomers.

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Retirement Identity Reset
Q: When did you start thinking seriously about retirement in your IP career?
Rob discusses planning ahead, considering client relationships and succession, and recognizing that retirement decisions can be approached three years out to ensure a smoother transition.
The Future of Global Patent Litigation
Q: Tammy, could you describe your focus within IP litigation and how that informs your view of UPC and cross-border strategy?
Tammy explains she handles patent litigation and related areas (trademark, antitrust) and emphasizes how understanding both prosecution and litigation enriches strategy, especially as UPC developments unfold.
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… AIPLA
Q: What was your flashpoint moment when you decided this is what you want to do?
Lauren Emerson describes how she pivoted into copyright work after joining a strong copyright committee and recognizing the impact of evolving technologies like Pinterest on client questions, driving her toward specialization.
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… AIPLA
Q: Would you mind introducing yourselves if that's okay?
Margaret Polson explains her Denver–based IP prosecution firm and her focus on designs, while Lauren Emerson shares her role at Lisa Ellis and her involvement with copyrights and trademarks, setting the stage for their IP journeys.
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… Rob Jackson
Q: How did Rob become involved with the UPC Committee?
Rob joined council at a time when UPC work was gaining momentum and leveraged his experience in both EPO contentious practice and UK litigation to take on leadership in UPC initiatives.

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A thoughtful, policy-savvy show that centers on patents, trademarks, designs, and copyright within business, technology, and innovation. Across episodes, listeners get practical insights on IP strategy, global litigation, the Unified Patent Court, and cross-border enforcement, often through interviews with patent attorneys, regulators, industry leaders, and journalists. The conversations frequently explore how IP shapes strategy for startups and established firms, the evolving role of AI and education in the profession, and the tension between open innovation and protection. A standout trait is the mix of deeply technical IP discussions with accessible business context, plus a consistent emphasis on practical guidance for navigating global ... more

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1. Rob Williams
2. James Nurton
3. Ken Seddon
4. Tammy Terry
5. Daniel Chew
6. Kayleigh Nauman
7. Adin Samson
8. Samuel Stone

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