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The Unburdened Leader

Rebecca Ching, LMFT
Leadership
Mental Health
Creativity
Self-Care
Power
Personal Power
Glimmers
Right Use Of Power
Emotional Regulation
Art
Emotional Well-Being
Burnout
Journaling
Boredom
Healing
Authoritarian Dynamics
Collective Power
Systemic Power
Empathy
Polyvagal Theory

Meet leaders who recognized their own pain, worked through it, and stepped up into greater leadership. Each week, we dive into how leaders like you deal with struggle and growth so that you can lead without burnout or loneliness. If you're eager to make an impact in your community or business, Rebecca Ching, LMFT, will give you practical strategies for redefining challenges and vulnerability while... more

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Latest Episodes

When you think of networking, do you feel discomfort or even dread?

Most of us learned that “networking” is fundamentally transactional, asking for and doling out favors in order to further our aims. Maybe you or someone you know is the type to be c... more

Story is our brain’s first language.

And our minds fill in a story’s blanks long before the facts catch up.

Before we consciously interpret an event, our nervous system has already scanned for threat and sent that information to our brains, which i... more

Most of us know about the “fight, flight, freeze” responses to trauma. But there is another concept that has been steadily gaining awareness over the last several years, in large part due to pop psychology on social media: Fawning.

You might have he... more

There is a well-known cognitive phenomenon that we are all susceptible to, and even more so when we’re stressed. And we’re all at least a little stressed and overwhelmed right now.

The illusory truth effect catches us when we repeatedly hear stateme... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Ingrid Clayton
Licensed clinical psychologist; author of Fawning
Private practice in Los Angeles; Psychology Today contributor
Episode: EP 149: Interrupting the Fawning Trauma Response: Leadership, Safety, and Self-Trust with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
Soraya Chemaly
Award-winning author and activist, cultural critic
Episode: EP 148: Naming as Leadership Practice: Soraya Chemaly on Language and Power
A'shanti Gholar
President and CEO of Emerge, a network training women to run for office.
Emerge America
Episode: EP 147: Despair Is Not a Strategy: Emerge America CEO A'shanti Gholar on Servant Leadership and the Long Game
Dr. Kurt Gray
Social psychologist and author specializing in moral psychology and polarization.
The Ohio State University
Episode: EP 145: Leading Through Outrage: Why Moral Imagination Matters with Dr. Kurt Gray
Crystal Jones
Licensed clinical social worker and lead IFSI trainer
Episode: EP 143: Transforming Legacy Burdens in our Leadership with Crystal Jones
Elise Loehnen
Writer, editor, and host of Pulling the Thread
Former content officer at Goop
Episode: EP 142: The Hidden Leadership and Mental Health Costs of Performative Goodness with Elise Loehnen
Dr. Ben Rein
Neuroscientist and author of Why Brains Need Friends
Mind Science Foundation, Stanford University, SUNY Buffalo
Episode: EP 141: When Science Meets Misinformation: How to Lead with Evidence in a Truth-Decay Era with Dr. Ben Rein
Karen Walrond
Award-winning author, speaker, coach, and photographer
Author of 'In Defense of Dabbling'
Episode: EP 140: Dare to Dabble: How Intentional Amateurship Builds Resilience with Karen Walrond
Mita Mallick
A Wall Street Journal and USA Today best-selling author on toxic leadership and workplace culture
Episode: EP 139: Bad Bosses Aren't Born, They're Made: Breaking Toxic Leadership Cycles with Mita Malick

Host

Rebecca Ching
Host of leadership-focused conversations centered on healing, vulnerability, and sustainable leadership.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 95 ratings
  • Such a special podcast - synthesizing psych, leadership, and hope

    Rebecca is a really gifted integrative practitioner and she brings her wide ranging skill set to these deeply thoughtful, uplifting, and ever so timely and essential conversations. If you're looking to listen in on intelligent, open hearted leaders finding new possibilities for a better world - internal and out- this is your place.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tituba1984
    United States19 days ago
  • Well structured and deeply impactful

    My favorite part of the Unburdened Leader is Rebecca’s ability, not only to evoke deep wisdom from a range of leaders, but to distill such wisdom at the beginning and end of each episode, and to connect it with other insights. Wonderful podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ross OM
    United States20 days ago
  • Always a good listen

    I discovered this podcast a few years ago and enjoy the thoughtful conversation around mental health, leadership, and everything in between.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    kbrooney
    United States21 days ago
  • Thoughtful reflections and questions

    I can always tell when a host has done their homework and crafted their interview with care and intention. Rebecca does this with each of her guests, and it shows in the quality of the questions she asks, and the depth to which the interviews can therefor go.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Aknowles78
    United States21 days ago
  • Thoughtful, Real and Practical

    Love the host, the guests and the conversations!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MitaM13
    United States8 months ago

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Audience notes the show blends psychology with practical leadership guidance and real-world storytelling.
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Listeners praise depth, authenticity, and thoughtful questions that bring guests to meaningful insights.
Fans appreciate the calm, compassionate interview style and the emphasis on personal growth in leadership.

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EP 149: Interrupting the Fawning Trauma Response: Leadership, Safety, and Self-Trust with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
Q: How has Ingrid's expanded lens on fawning changed your own leadership or personal practice?
Rebecca describes how the expanded concept reframes self-protection as a systemic response rooted in safety and connection, not a personal flaw, and notes shifts toward recognizing parts, slowing down, and embedding self-trust through embodied practices like grounding and mindful self-care.
EP 149: Interrupting the Fawning Trauma Response: Leadership, Safety, and Self-Trust with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
Q: You write about fawning as a double bind, where there's a real consequence for not fawning, and the body has to choose between safety and self. Walk us through what happens when you state we have to choose safety or self.
The host explains that people face a literal cliff between meeting external safety (like a paycheck) and honoring their own values and boundaries; the body often prioritizes external safety due to past traumas, leading to self-abandonment unless they build awareness, supports, and new patterns that allow safety without sacrificing self.
EP 147: Despair Is Not a Strategy: Emerge America CEO A'shanti Gholar on Servant Leadership and the Long Game
Q: What should listeners do if they are struggling with hopelessness?
Find small, actionable ways to make a difference in your community, as even micro-actions can add up.
EP 147: Despair Is Not a Strategy: Emerge America CEO A'shanti Gholar on Servant Leadership and the Long Game
Q: What motivates women to run for office right now?
Women are stepping up to fight back against despair and desire a better life for their communities.
EP 129: Beyond the List: Building Communities of Generosity and Mutual Care with Charles Vogl
Q: What is one question folks listening can ask themselves so they can assess how they can be better community builders?
Think of at least five people that you know who would reach out to you in an emergency. If they don't call you for help when you can provide it, that indicates a problem. Strengthening this relationship can enhance your community.

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The show centers on leadership that is grounded in psychology, trauma awareness, and emotional intelligence. Episodes frequently explore how nervous-system regulation, authentic communication, and personal burden shape effective leadership, with guests ranging from psychologists and neuroscientists to activists and sustainability thinkers. Expect practical strategies for self-trust, boundaries, and resilient leadership that prioritizes connection, empathy, and sustainable impact over burnout. A notable pattern is linking personal healing with better organizational and community leadership, often through frameworks like Polyvagal Theory, IFS, or servant leadership, and reframing leadership as embodied presence rather than performative contro... more

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1. Dr. Ingrid Clayton
2. Soraya Chemaly
3. A'shanti Gholar
4. Dr. Kurt Gray
5. Crystal Jones
6. Elise Loehnen
7. Dr. Ben Rein
8. Karen Walrond

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