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Second Nature

Oxygen Conservation
Sustainability
Natural Capital
Climate Change
Biodiversity
Oxygen Conservation
Regenerative Agriculture
Biodiversity Net Gain
Ecology
Conservation
RSK Wilding
Rewilding
Corporate Responsibility
Nature Recovery
Scotland Land Reform Bill
Environmental Conservation
Carbon Finance
Green Swans
Knight Frank
Blue Earth
Renewable Energy

Life on Earth is changing faster than ever. Second Nature introduces you to the people driving that change.Join host Rich Stockdale as he sits down with some of the most interesting people working at the intersection of nature, business, finance, adventure, leadership, and politics. Together, they uncover the stories, lessons, and truths that will shape the future of our planet.Expect everything f... more

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Asger Strange Olesen has spent 15 years building context most people in this space only claim to have. Carbon developer, EU Climate Directorate, FSC Global Chief Climate Officer, now heading climate and biodiversity at IWC — a $6bn forestry asset man... more

Richard Kelly and Robert Guest were employees 63 and 64 at Foresight. They built a £150 million portfolio in 12 months, took it public on the London Stock Exchange during COP26, watched interest rates destroy their share price through no fault of the... more

Everyone talks about capital flows into nature. Nobody talks about what has to be true before that capital will move. Insurance isn't a nice-to-have in natural capital markets — it's the load-bearing wall. Without it, the deals don't close, the banks... more

Greg Robson and Ed Thorne founded Sand River three years ago with a simple but radical premise: the companies solving the ecological crisis are the best businesses on earth — they just haven't been funded that way. Both came from operational backgrou... more

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Richard Kelly
Co-founder/leader of forestry and natural capital initiatives at Foresight
Foresight
Episode: E176 Richard Kelly & Robert Guest: Britain Is Running Out of Trees
Robert Guest
Co-lead on forestry, natural capital, and related assets
Foresight
Episode: E176 Richard Kelly & Robert Guest: Britain Is Running Out of Trees
Will Butler
CEO and founder of Gaia Sicura, insurance broker for Nature Regeneration projects
Gaia Sicura
Episode: E175 Insurance Round Table: The Market Nobody Talks About
Natalia Dorfman
CEO and co-founder of Kita, specialist insurer for carbon and natural capital
Kita
Episode: E175 Insurance Round Table: The Market Nobody Talks About
Ed Thorne
Founding partner at Sand River
Sand River
Episode: E174 Ed Thorne & Greg Robson: Relationships Can't Be Automated
Greg Robson
Co-founder at Sand River
Sand River
Episode: E174 Ed Thorne & Greg Robson: Relationships Can't Be Automated
Tim Christophersen
Author and sustainability executive, former UN official, current Salesforce lead on nature program programs
Salesforce
Episode: E173 Tim Christophersen: The $7 Trillion Secret Destroying The Planet
David Gerard
Magician, marketer, and communication coach focusing on presence in the AI era
Independent/Founder of coaching and performance programs
Episode: E172 David Gerard: Wonder Is a Business Strategy
Dimitri Theocharis
CEO of Ecology
Ecology
Episode: E170 Dimitri Theocharis: The Hyperscalers Are Coming

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Rich Stockdale
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4.7 out of 5 stars from 58 ratings
  • Wonderfully surprising

    Through sharing of stories this brilliant podcast introduces you to Oxygen Conservation, their team and people on their journey. It’s also hugely inspiring and has so many important messages for all areas of life. Highly recommend listening and challenge you not to want to be a part of OC!

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    ImogenPartridge
    United Kingdom3 years ago

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Highlight reel of ambitious ideas about nature-based finance and data-driven conservation.
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E164 Ian Simm: Nature Is The Next Big Trade
Q: Where did the idea for Impax come from, and how did you start building the business?
After attempting solar energy ventures and realizing private sector money was essential for environmental solutions, I helped design an environmental fund for the World Bank, which evolved into Impax Asset Management with early leadership and a focus on environmental markets.
E164 Ian Simm: Nature Is The Next Big Trade
Q: Ian, can you bring the business to life for us and give an idea of what you do and the scale of the company?
We manage money for institutional and retail investors and aim to fund the transition to a more sustainable economy, with about 25 billion pounds under management and roughly 270 staff worldwide.
E165 Dimple Patel: Stop Waiting For Permission
Q: What prompted your move from traditional finance to entrepreneurship and impact work?
She realized she wanted more autonomy and to create something that could positively affect others, leading her to start a hospitality business alongside trading at Goldman and eventually pivot toward technology and biodiversity impact.
E165 Dimple Patel: Stop Waiting For Permission
Q: How did you navigate the early academic and cultural challenges after arriving at Cambridge?
She describes feeling terrified yet driven, acknowledging the need to adapt to a new social and academic culture, while leaning into reading, curiosity, and the support of mentors and family that helped her persist.
E162 Will Foulkes: Retail Is Sitting On Untouched Billions
Q: Why nature-based credits and how does the Stability platform actually work for scale?
The guest explains that stability uses a registry and tokenized structure to manage nature assets, with a green margin applied to transactions, a reserve to stabilize prices and asset destruction risk, and partnerships with financial and retail players to enable scalable funding for nature projects.

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Second Nature blends conversations with leaders at the intersection of nature, finance, and technology to explore how to scale environmental impact. Episodes commonly center on climate finance, biodiversity measurement, nature-based solutions, and the governance and data behind turning environmental outcomes into investable opportunities. Notable is the practical, founder-to-leader storytelling paired with a focus on real-world challenges like regulation, market design, and scalable data platforms. The show seems especially valuable for listeners interested in actionable insights for funding conservation, building purpose-driven ventures, and understanding the evolving nature of sustainability-focused finance.

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2. Robert Guest
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4. Natalia Dorfman
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7. Tim Christophersen
8. David Gerard

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