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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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Climate Change
COP30
Fossil Fuels
Renewable Energy
Paris Agreement
COP28
Climate Crisis
Climate Action
Brazil
Donald Trump
Climate Finance
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Biodiversity
United States
Sustainability
Environmental Policy
Fossil Fuel Industry
China
Climate Leadership
Australia

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make s... more

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When climate wins happen, we often credit the market. Or the policy. But is philanthropy the most underappreciated force in the climate fight? And can less than 2% of global giving actually change anything?

Behind the headlines, people like Jennifer... more

An unprecedented government move to outrun the courts. A country racing to write AI into its constitution. And a global energy crisis that's already moved faster than any possible fix. Are our institutions and the rules they rest on still fit for the... more

Are flights across the world about to be grounded? Is a terrible war about to create an unlikely good news story for the climate? As conflict in the Middle East threatens the Strait of Hormuz, jet fuel shortages are forcing aviation to confront a str... more

Monarch butterflies crossing a continent. Peregrine falcons above Manhattan. A giant lemur most of the world had never heard of, until one man pointed a camera at it. For seventy years, Sir David Attenborough has been asking us to look - really look ... more

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Recent Guests

Roxanne van Rijn
Aviation leader with KLM Sustainability experience
KLM
Episode: The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Karel Bockstael
Former Vice President of Sustainability at KLM
KLM
Episode: The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
David Attenborough
Sir David Attenborough, celebrated broadcaster and natural historian
BBC/Natural History Journalism
Episode: David Attenborough at 100
Willem Huiskamp
Working group leader at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research; expert in oceanography and AMOC
Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research
Episode: “This is civilisation changing stuff”: Is AMOC the hardest climate story to tell?
Mary Robinson
Former president of Ireland and climate activist
Climate Justice Advocate
Episode: Beyond the Oil Crisis: What’s actually blocking the transition?
Vanessa Nakate
Climate activist
Climate justice movement
Episode: Beyond the Oil Crisis: What’s actually blocking the transition?
Emily Donovan
Co-founder of Clean Cape Fear
Clean Cape Fear
Episode: It’s In Our Blood: Communities vs Forever Chemicals
Sarah Alexander
Executive director of the Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association
Maine Organic Farmers and Gardeners Association
Episode: It’s In Our Blood: Communities vs Forever Chemicals
Ofa Kaisamy
Commonwealth Blue Charter Advisor from the South Pacific
Commonwealth Blue Charter
Episode: The Health Emergency Hiding in Rising Seas

Hosts

Tom Rivett-Carnac
Host across multiple series focusing on climate action, global policy, and leadership.
Christiana Figueres
Co-host with a storied history in climate diplomacy and leadership in global climate frameworks.
Paul Dickinson
Co-host and sustainability expert with a focus on business transformation and policy.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 2.3k ratings
  • Positivity!

    Even when tackling the most difficult, dangerous and frustrating topics, the passion and optimism of the hosts shines through. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jozzles44
    United Kingdom5 months ago
  • Love and disappointment

    This last episode at the end of CO30, marks the moment when I am divided by my love for this podcast and my deepest disappointment in this last episode. In general, the series of Inside COP30 have been very diplomatic, and still providing a good overview of the COP, except that this episode fails to offer the proper level of criticism that the result out of it deserves. Nothing was achieved in the political arena of COP that was not part of previous agreements and the so called for Truth and Im... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    KBA2020
    Switzerland6 months ago
  • Inside COP was amazing!

    Being able to listen and understand COP like I was there, all while making my kids lunch in my kitchen was wonderful!! Thank you so much!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Rebecca Tierney
    Belgium6 months ago
  • Blind to their western and americentric positioning. I find the hosts make political assumptions that don't protect or advance democratic processes. I say this so they can get better at talking to the whole world so leaders can stop failing on climate action.

    Podcast Addict
    3
    Aurorespera
    8 months ago
  • Great podcast and episode!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    ChristineP
    10 months ago

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Engaging guests from policy, science, and activism with clear takeaways.
Some criticisms note a perceived emphasis on optimism over rigorous critique in certain episodes.
Thoughtful, hopeful, and informed framing that makes complex topics accessible.
Listener feedback often highlights the balance of urgency and optimism in reporting.

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#143
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#47
United Kingdom/Science
Apple Podcasts
#44
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Apple Podcasts
#142
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Apple Podcasts
#62
Australia/Science
Apple Podcasts
#110
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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Q: What can individual listeners do to reduce their aviation footprint?
Listeners are advised to understand flight impact, consider offsets or true pricing, support SAF and alternative transport, and potentially travel less or by train where feasible.
The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Q: What role does SAF play today and what are the limits to its adoption?
SAF currently represents a small share of fuel use; production limits, feedstock constraints, and the need for renewable energy inputs are key barriers, with future potential tied to large-scale energy availability.
The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Q: How can industry players coordinate to decarbonize, given the tragedy of the commons?
They argue for international collaboration via ICAO, carbon budgets, and potentially global pricing or taxes to align incentives across airlines and suppliers.
The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Q: Why isn't it easy to fix aviation's energy problem given wind, solar, and EVs?
The guests explain aviation's energy intensity, the dominance of kerosene, and the weight/energy density challenges that make batteries and alternative fuels hard to implement at scale soon.
The Jet Fuel Crisis: What’s next for aviation?
Q: What does flying actually mean to you, and do you have complex feelings about it?
Both guests express love for travel and the industry, but acknowledge deep concerns about climate impact, leading to difficult personal decisions and a drive to transform the sector.

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2. Karel Bockstael
3. David Attenborough
4. Willem Huiskamp
5. Mary Robinson
6. Vanessa Nakate
7. Emily Donovan
8. Sarah Alexander

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