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Outrage + Optimism is for anyone who is not ready to give up on making the world a better place. For unrivalled conversations with decision makers, visionary thinkers and a community of like-minded climate optimists, join former UN climate chief Christiana Figueres, political strategist Tom Rivett-Carnac and sustainable business consultant Paul Dickinson. Each week they make sense of all the top c... more

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At COP26 in Glasgow, India famously asked to change one word in the final text. ‘Phase out’ became ‘phase down’. The COP President fought back tears, as country after country branded this a moment of shame. For many, India has been a villain of that ... more

"This will never work in India."

That's what Indian truck manufacturers said about electric freight. Now they build the trucks.

Something is going on here at a speed the rest of the world has not yet noticed. Solar capacity has gone from under thre... more

In Delhi, lung cancer is no longer a smoker’s disease. It’s a breather’s disease.

But the most polluted capital on earth sits in a country running five years ahead of its Paris clean power target. 

In the first of three dispatches from India, Tom R... more

The summer of 2026 burned the largest wildfire in Spain's recorded history and the largest France has seen since the Second World War. June's heat killed more than 10,000 people across Europe. A heat dome held North Africa and the Sahel above 45°C fo... more

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Recent Guests

Dia Mirza
Actress and long-standing clean air campaigner
Indian film industry / clean air advocacy
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Adnan Bhat
Journalist and filmmaker on the ground in Delhi
Journalism / Documentary
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Bhavreen Kandhari
Activist focused on cleaner air; founder of Warrior Moms
Warrior Moms (network of mothers)
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Shyla Raghav
Former Chief Climate Officer at Time; climate leader
Conservation International / Time
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Dr. Arvind Kumar
Pulmonary surgeon and advocate for air-pollution awareness
Medanta Hospital
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Unknown/Ben (producer)
Producer mentioned in line notes
Production
Episode: India: Life Inside Delhi's 'Airpocalypse'
Vanessa Hauc
Senior correspondent and anchor at Noticias Telemundo; director of Planeta Tierra
Telemundo Noticias
Episode: The Clock is Ticking: Forty Seconds to Explain the Climate Crisis
Adair Turner
Lord Adair Turner, chair of the Energy Transitions Commission and former UK Climate Change Committee chair
Energy Transitions Commission
Episode: Cheapest Energy in History. Still Heading for 3 Degrees?
Freddie Otto
CEO of the World Weather Attribution Service
World Weather Attribution Service
Episode: Europe’s Summer of Fire: The New Normal?

Hosts

Tom Rivett-Carnac
Host of Outrage and Optimism, Global Optimism
Christiana Figueres
Host of Outrage and Optimism, Global Optimism
Paul Dickinson
Co-host of the show, Global Optimism

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 2.3k ratings
  • Hypocritical elitist communism

    Basically saying: It’s fine for us to fly all over the place for our campaigns and drive our Teslas but you should have a shorter shower and less heating while we tax you out of being able to use your old banger which you need to be able to work.

    What happens when everyone in Africa gets a car and a washing machine or are they not allowed one in your world ???

    One thing that’s Guaranteed you have one.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Builder in Devon
    United Kingdom2 months ago
  • Could she shut up

    That stupid woman constantly making everything about her, constantly interrupting ruins this show. Enthusiasm has its place but she just destroys the focus of every section. Ahh and then two of them, the guest and one host, just said it, just as I finished typing it, ‘no one else gets a word in sideways!’

    Think I can riff off cris o rivers review, too, this show is really a chronicle of institutional climate change failure, not sure the hosts realise that.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Herronski
    Australia2 months ago
  • Positivity!

    Even when tackling the most difficult, dangerous and frustrating topics, the passion and optimism of the hosts shines through. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jozzles44
    United Kingdom9 months ago
  • Love and disappointment

    This last episode at the end of CO30, marks the moment when I am divided by my love for this podcast and my deepest disappointment in this last episode. In general, the series of Inside COP30 have been very diplomatic, and still providing a good overview of the COP, except that this episode fails to offer the proper level of criticism that the result out of it deserves. Nothing was achieved in the political arena of COP that was not part of previous agreements and the so called for Truth and Im... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    KBA2020
    Switzerland10 months ago
  • Inside COP was amazing!

    Being able to listen and understand COP like I was there, all while making my kids lunch in my kitchen was wonderful!! Thank you so much!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Rebecca Tierney
    Belgium10 months ago

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Audience appreciates actionable insights for policy and philanthropy, plus international perspective.
Guest diversity and high-profile interviews are frequently highlighted.
Some critics note interruptions during conversations can detract from the dialogue.
Listeners praise the show's hopeful framing and deep expertise.

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#178
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#47
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#26
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#94
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#82
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#212
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The Clock is Ticking: Forty Seconds to Explain the Climate Crisis
Q: What was the reaction inside Telemundo and among the audience after broadcasting the climate education during the World Cup?
Reactions were mixed but largely positive among environmental groups and leadership at Telemundo; the project was supported as a transparent public service aligned with Las Cosas Como Son, despite sensitivities around Aramco's sponsorship.
The Clock is Ticking: Forty Seconds to Explain the Climate Crisis
Q: How did you decide what to say in the limited time of a few minutes during the hydration breaks?
The team worked to explain the why, what, and who behind the breaks in a concise, viewer-friendly way, emphasizing accountability and the everyday impact of climate change while keeping the message accessible to a broad audience.
Beyond Politics: Should we take the heat out of the climate crisis?
Q: For this next urgent phase, do we try to de-politicize climate action or lean into the politics to drive system change?
The hosts explore two paths: depoliticizing solutions by focusing on health and human outcomes, and pursuing non-political or multi-partisan approaches that bring different groups to common ground; they suggest combining consensus-building with strong, values-driven action that transcends partisan divides.
Europe’s Summer of Fire: The New Normal?
Q: Has this summer's heat waves and fires been caused by a changing climate?
Yes. The fingerprint of human-induced climate change is evident in the extreme heat, with attribution studies showing that such events are far more likely and intense due to warming.
London Cooking: A Climate Action Week, a Resigning PM, and the Future of Climate Diplomacy
Q: What does Rachel Kyte see as the new shape of climate diplomacy?
She frames climate diplomacy as a role that blends policy with investment facilitation, requiring leaders to connect international climate goals with practical finance, transparency, and inclusion to ensure that the transition benefits broad segments of society.

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A highly engaging climate affairs show that blends policy analysis, technology costs, governance, and global geopolitics with a persistent sense of optimism. Across episodes, hosts explore decarbonization pathways (electrification, carbon pricing, regulation), the politics of COP processes, and practical resilience from cities and industries, often featuring high-profile guests and industry insiders. Unique strengths include a balanced outrage-and-optimism lens, a willingness to tackle thorny topics (energy finance, litigation, data centers, aviation, philanthropy) and a focus on actionable ideas for listeners who want to inform decisions, shape narratives, or sponsor impactful climate initiatives.

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2. Adnan Bhat
3. Bhavreen Kandhari
4. Shyla Raghav
5. Dr. Arvind Kumar
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