
The business of outdoor hosted by Aaron Lutze & Dylan Bowman
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 170 | Founded | 2 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | BusinessSports | |||

Annijke Wade became an adaptive mountain biker in 2021 after a downhill accident left her with a spinal cord injury. Four years later, she's racing at events like SBT Gravel and Sea Otter Classic, running a nonprofit called Dirt Bound that develops p... more
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Tommie Runz started running in 2018, a year after choosing sobriety, and began documenting the journey simply because it felt good to share progress and get encouragement. Seven years later, he's built an audience of over 30,000 through nothing but c... more
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Lutze can ask for the review as if it was his second nature. Gotta respect that and they certainly earned it. Great chemistry between the hosts and super interesting deep dives behind the scenes of the outdoor industry.
Dylan and Aaron have great takes on the business of outdoor.
Loved this pod since day one - keep doing what you’re doing guys!
Thoughtful and engaging without flippant hot takes
If you are at all interested in the biz of outdoor sports, this pod is a must. Their experience, smarts, dynamite rapport, and awesome guests make this podcast a primer for anyone curious about what’s going on behind the scenes of your favorite outdoor sports world.
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This show targets professionals and enthusiasts in the outdoor industry who want practical insights on building brands, partnerships, and media in outdoor sports. Across episodes, recurring themes include brand storytelling, creator collaborations, athlete partnerships, and the business mechanics behind outdoor ventures. Notable angles include leveraging mentorship, AI for visibility, and ecosystem-building around events and media. A distinct strength is the hosts' industry experience and their ability to extract actionable takeaways from guests ranging from brand founders to media leaders, often with a focus on long-term value over quick wins.
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Recent guests on Second Nature include:
1. Tommie Runz
2. Matt Oesterle
3. Martyn Ashton
4. Ross McGraw
5. Mattie Sims
6. Tom Austen
7. Bill Shufelt
8. Morgan Tuohy
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