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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche
Nutrition
Running
Ultra Running
Strength Training
Mental Health
Western States 100
Western States
Heat Training
Cross-Training
Leadville 100
Olympic Trials
Endurance Training
Trail Running
Fatigue Resistance
Hydration
Running Economy
Kilian Jornet
2024
UTMB
Javelina 100

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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We had just the right amount of Dunkin’ coffee (a barrel) before this great episode! The main topic was everything we learned at the Boston Marathon, highlighted by Jess McClain running 2:20:49 to break the American Course Record by over a minute. We... more

We got overconfident with a shoe experiment before this great episode! It started with a discussion of race-day fueling of Tadej Pogacar (who might be the greatest endurance athlete ever). 250 grams of carbs and 1430 calories for breakfast?! We zoom ... more

We listened to a troubling amount of Noah Kahan music before this great episode! The main topic outlined our theory on using downhill training for strength and speed. The repeated bout effect from downhill-induced eccentric muscle contractions causes... more

We imagined doing PG-13 things to a very tasty gel before this great episode! The main training topic was a discussion of steady running. Lots of theory talks about “hard days hard and easy days easy.” But we think there’s a place for an addition: “m... more

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Recent Guests

Tara Dower
Ultra athlete who set the overall FKT record on the Appalachian Trail
Episode: 225. Kilian's Wild Physiology Data, Tara Dower Sets the Overall AT Record, The Next Race After Leadville, 7 Ultra Logistics Tips, and How Elite Athletes Eat!
Allie Ostrander
Endurance athlete and YouTuber, known for her vulnerability in sharing her journey with eating disorders and competitive racing.
Episode: 190. Optimizing Testosterone Levels, Lower Mileage Training, Breathing and Stress, and US Cross Country!

Hosts

Megan Roche, M.D.
Co-Host and a medical professional, sharing insights on training, nutrition, and the mental aspects of running.
David Roche
Co-Host and ultrarunner, providing commentary on running strategies and personal insights.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 5.5k ratings
  • Funny and informative

    Great pod with cool people chatting on some interesting and funny topics. Usually learn something and have a laugh at the same time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Davekingman26
    United Kingdom18 days ago
  • Running, Fitness, Song Lyrics, Birders and Love

    I’ve been listening to this podcast to understand fitness and running. What’s crazy is all the other things you get along the way. These two have incredible chemistry. Megan is so wonderful and smart. They read EVERYTHING related to the science of sport and package it perfectly for your consumption. They have shown us that if you put your truth out in the world, sometimes your dreams come true. Love wins!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Etopia999
    United States20 days ago
  • Best podcast ever!

    As I know other people have said- I came for the science and stayed for the laughs! I feel like I know David and Megan personally and I love it! I’m also on Patreon- my favorite thing ever!!!! Highly recommend. Thanks SWAP!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hmcjohnson
    United States20 days ago
  • Should be one of the top Health & Fitness podcasts let alone running podcasts.

    I grew up with an abusive father that happened to be a very good ultra-runner. He was a 100km and 100mi national champion with a David Goggins-like approach to life. I don’t want to get into the abuse but it was rough. It was very confusing for me as I got older and started having cognitive dissonance from what I felt was morally right ways to approach conflict and emotions. I randomly stumbled on one of David’s videos. I believe it was Leadville. I never connected more with a YouTube video in m... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dan Clem
    United States2 months ago
  • Always great

    Love this pod, keep up the good work.

    Also, @LongTFirstT and @RunJDRun! (Ironic name btw).. what’s your beef?!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bob-blahblah
    United States2 months ago

Listeners Say

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A few express concerns about commercialization and product endorsements, preferring a focus purely on running topics without external influences.
There's an emphasis on vulnerability and community, resonating well with audiences looking for support in their running journeys.
Listeners appreciate the mix of humor and science, enjoying both the educational content and the personal stories shared.

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#7
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Apple Podcasts
#220
United States/Sports
Apple Podcasts
#12
Canada/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#15
United Kingdom/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#238
Canada/Sports
Apple Podcasts
#31
Germany/Sports/Running

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

303. The Weird Science of Carb Mouth Rinses, VO2 Max Limits, Fueling for Performance, Cross Training, and Cramp Prevention!
Q: What would you tell a listener who fears they may not be progressing, despite putting in energy and training time?
Progress often comes from trying new training stimuli, building consistency, and accepting that talent and adaptation express differently. Keep showing up, vary approaches, and stay patient with long-term growth.
303. The Weird Science of Carb Mouth Rinses, VO2 Max Limits, Fueling for Performance, Cross Training, and Cramp Prevention!
Q: According to your experience, with VO2 max estimates varying across devices, should a runner pursue a higher VO2 max or focus on training adaptations and consistency?
Numbers on wearables are not the sole truth; they're interpolations. Focus on consistent, targeted training, try different stimuli, and use performance improvements and training responses as the guide rather than fixating on VO2 numbers.
302. Mailbag Episode! The Fastest Shoe, Our Dream Study, Improving Testosterone Levels, Heat Training, Upper Body Lifting, and Lots More
Q: What's your view on using a high-protein intake (1 gram per pound) and multiple heavy lifts per week for testosterone and overall hormonal health?
They share that some athletes use testosterone-supportive supplements with caution and emphasize that evidence varies; they stress avoiding overreliance on supplements and prioritizing overall training load, nutrition, and safety, noting hormone-related decisions should be made carefully and ethically.
302. Mailbag Episode! The Fastest Shoe, Our Dream Study, Improving Testosterone Levels, Heat Training, Upper Body Lifting, and Lots More
Q: Should an endurance athlete schedule upper-body lifts on rest days or is that too much cumulative stress?
They decide upper-body work on rest days can be fine if kept light and non-competing with leg days; emphasizes planning around total anabolic stress and using the rest day for strength work to balance the training load.
302. Mailbag Episode! The Fastest Shoe, Our Dream Study, Improving Testosterone Levels, Heat Training, Upper Body Lifting, and Lots More
Q: First one here is a Fuck Mary Kill question. Saunas, steam rooms, hot tubs—what's your take?
Megan and David discuss preferring hot tub mainly for benefits like capillarization, while acknowledging sauna advantages; steam rooms are considered less favorable due to electrolyte and thermal risks. They decide hot tub as a kind of 'marry' due to broader wellness benefits, with steam room as 'kill' and sauna variable but generally enjoyable in shorter, controlled use.

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The content focuses on a vibrant blend of sports science, personal anecdotes, and practical advice tailored for running enthusiasts. It features discussions on a wide array of topics ranging from training methodologies, race strategies, and the latest endurance science to more candid explorations of the hosts' personal experiences in athletics and parenting. The engaging dynamic between the hosts, characterized by humor and vulnerability, creates an inviting atmosphere, making complex training concepts accessible and relatable for listeners. Unique segments touch on community interactions and the emotional aspects of running, underscoring the importance of mental resilience and support networks in endurance sports.

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