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Some Work, All Play

David Roche and Megan Roche
Nutrition
Running
Heat Training
Western States 100
Ultra Running
Strength Training
Mental Health
Western States
Fatigue Resistance
Cross-Training
Leadville 100
UTMB
Hydration
Olympic Trials
Endurance Training
Trail Running
Running Economy
Kilian Jornet
2024
Javelina 100

Five to ten topics, sometimes about running, with lots of love and enthusiasm and science. We dig deep into training, races, studies, pop culture, and much more! With Megan Roche, M.D. and David Roche!

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We had to clear our search history after this great episode! The main topic was a list of the ways we’ve been wrong in coaching. Examples: fasted training, treadmills, heart rate monitors, squats, and lots more. We use the discussion as a chance to z... more

The carbs were flowing for this great episode! The main topic was a new study on carb intake that answered so many open questions about fueling. And in the process, it inadvertently dunked on the low carb studies from last year! Get ready, we have a ... more

On this episode, we got extremely excited by some of the coolest training theory. So we just ran with it!

The big discussion was on the 10 lessons we have learned from coaching pro road runners. David took a trip to the US 10k Champs this weekend, w... more

We had some deep thoughts on cheese before this great episode! The main topic was a new study on sodium bicarbonate, showing performance benefits in a long, intense protocol. We zoom out to talk about potential connections to mitochondria... in rats ... more

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Recent Guests

Amanda Vestri
Marathoner, guest visitor
Florida
Episode: 324. Why Longer Intervals May Be Worse (Sometimes), Carb Totals in Cycling, US Champ Doping, and Squats for Endurance Athletes
Rachel Entrekin
Elite ultramarathon runner, Coco Dona history-maker
Episode: 310. The Fatigue Resistance Episode! Rachel Entrekin Makes History at Cocodona, Women v. Men Durability, Fueling and the Central Nervous System, Brain Changes, and More
Tara Dower
Ultra athlete who set the overall FKT record on the Appalachian Trail
Episode: 225. Kilian's Wild Physiology Data, Tara Dower Sets the Overall AT Record, The Next Race After Leadville, 7 Ultra Logistics Tips, and How Elite Athletes Eat!
Allie Ostrander
Endurance athlete and YouTuber, known for her vulnerability in sharing her journey with eating disorders and competitive racing.
Episode: 190. Optimizing Testosterone Levels, Lower Mileage Training, Breathing and Stress, and US Cross Country!

Hosts

Megan Roche
Co-host and physician-coach focused on training theory and endurance science; host of the show.
David Roche
Co-host and endurance coach sharing personal athletic journey and coaching insights.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 5.9k ratings
  • From training nuggets to side short peeing

    If you want happiness and joy at high speed this is for you. So knowledgeable and yet crazy. Give them a chance if you love running because they will win you over with there infectious enthusiasm for life and running and sport.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sis_ter2
    Australia5 days ago
  • Could be better

    If it was only MR talking science, 5*. DR and their combined sex talk is a no from me.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    heijamie
    United States15 days ago
  • favorite running podcast

    As a life long runner, this is one of my favorite podcasts, and I recommend it to all my athlete friends. I like how it’s a mix of sports science research, coaching anecdotes, and personal stories. They drop so many helpful tips in each episode, I’ve made a note to keep track of them all. I credit the pod for helping me complete my first ultramarathons and look forward to Tuesdays when episodes are released—they help get me out the door on my solo runs. I love the mix of humor, vulnerability, an... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ashanishinaabe
    United States20 days ago
  • Commercials Within Advertisements

    Interesting tidbits of information sprinkled throughout near-nonstop commercials. They’re constantly working an angle on selling something to the audience. It’s exhausting and not fun

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    UVA Law R
    United Statesa month ago
  • Fun

    Dock dig

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    pet0r.Lustig
    Germany2 months ago

Listeners Say

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Strong on fueling strategies and race-day practicality.
Seasoned athletes will love the coaching depth and humor.
Honest discussions about controversial topics feel balanced and thoughtful.
Listener community is supportive and educational.
Runners get science without the jargon and a great vibe.

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#5
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Apple Podcasts
#6
Canada/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#18
United Kingdom/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#205
Canada/Sports
Apple Podcasts
#35
Australia/Sports/Running
Apple Podcasts
#45
Germany/Sports/Running

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

327. How to Improve Fatigue Resistance, Weekly Mileage, Aerobic v. Anaerobic Systems, and Cycling Doses of Creatine
Q: What are the practical implications of the aerobic vs anaerobic contribution study for short intervals?
Short intervals should still include aerobic emphasis and not rely solely on anaerobic surges; structure work-to-rest, use varied intensity repeats, and sparingly tap into anaerobic resources to avoid compromising long-term aerobic development.
322. Why Exercise Physiology Wisdom Can Be Wrong, Doping in Ultrarunning, Bicarb in Long Races, and AI Controversy!
Q: How should athletes approach returning to running after a calcaneal stress fracture when fear of downhill running arises?
The hosts advise acknowledging the fear, seeking support from therapists or loved ones, gradually reintroducing running with a cautious, patient approach, using a structured return-to-run plan, and prioritizing long-term health over short-term gains.
319. New Fueling Lessons from The Tour de France, Uphill Treadmill Threshold Theory, Prototype Shoe Ranting, The Hardrock 100, and Coaching Questions!
Q: What are your thoughts on Viagra being used to help altitude performance, and how solid is the evidence?
They discuss that Viagra has a potential mechanism via vasodilation that could help at very high altitudes, but the evidence is mixed and not conclusive. They also mention alternative vasodilators like L-citrulline and beetroot, stress that anything should be discussed with a doctor, and emphasize that performance outcomes vary greatly between individuals.
317. HISTORY at Western States 100! A Full Breakdown. Plus High Carb Study and Questions!
Q: Is there a minimum percentage of current mileage that should be maintained to be able to build smoothly back to similar fitness in the future?
The hosts suggest maintaining consistent base mileage with gradual cameling, recommending that you could drop to as low as 20-30 miles per week if needed, but emphasize continuing some load (30-60 minutes of hills, strides) to preserve fitness and then ramp back up when time allows.
315. How Lower Carb Arguments Miss The Mark, Answering Bicarb Questions, Overload Weeks, and Heat Training!
Q: Is an upcoming big race realistic to enter far out?
Yes, set an ambitious goal years out, then structure training progressively toward it and stay flexible as the body adapts.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Some Work, All Play

What is Some Work, All Play about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two endurance athletes and coaches discuss running, training science, fueling strategies, and real-world racing experiences with a down-to-earth, science-forward vibe. Episodes mix practical coaching tips, data-backed insights, and candid personal stories, often weaving in gear, nutrition experiments, and behind-the-scenes race narratives. The hosts' approachable banter and willingness to tackle controversial topics or evolving science make it a go-to for runners who want both clarity and motivation. A notable strength is the strong emphasis on applying research to practice while keeping humor and accessibility front and center, with ongoing creator-led content on coaching plans and Patreon exclusives that deepen the learning for serious at... more

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