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Emotions
Anxiety
Empathy
Shame
Comparison
Grief
Boundaries
Pornography
Anger
Overwhelm
Trauma
God
Resentment
Attachment Needs
Therapy
Attachment
Change
Self-Compassion
Forgiveness
Happiness

Join long-time friends Andy Spray and Emily Lawyer, Licensed Professional Counselor, in a both/and approach to the complexity of being human. We'll answer your questions and grow together in the journey to connect more to ourselves, God and people around us. *The content provided in Say More is for general informational and educational purposes only and should not be interpreted as a substitute fo... more

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In the age of internet diagnoses, is everyone you know a narcissist? No. But also yes. Join us as we shed light on common myths and illuminate the various shades on the spectrum of narcissism.

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From embarrassment to utter humiliation, the river running through is shame. How do you wade the choppy waters when you’re surrounded? Hang on, your friends are here with a life jacket.

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Is it trauma or am I overreacting? Is it trauma or are we just overusing that word? Wait, what even is trauma? And more importantly, how do I heal from it?

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The pit in your stomach. The heat rising in your cheeks. You’re feeling… something. When emotions hit, what are we supposed to do with them? Join Emily and Andy as we all learn how to feel our feelings.

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5.0 out of 5 stars from 52 ratings
  • Life Changing

    The same day that I listened to the episode on empathy and learned the phrase “It makes sense that . . . because . . .” my teenage daughter had a conversation with me about a tricky life circumstance. I used Emily’s phrasing instead of my usual “but” statements, and we were able to make it through the conversation without argument. This was huge.

    I’ve listened to every single episode, and through them, I’ve learned, laughed, and grown. Thank you, Emily and Andi, for your life-changing work. It ... more

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    5
    Beth Bader
    United States4 months ago
  • Say Awesome

    I have never not laughed aloud, during the opening segment. They are funny & charming & whimsical before sliding into deeper waters, each episode. And, even then… they weave levity into every very-relatable, earth-can-be-tricky-business topic, while providing solid, validating, no-judgement, insight. They SAY all the right things.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Brookie's iTunes
    United States6 months ago
  • So much rich wisdom. And so much laughter.

    I started to listen and I couldn’t stop! From Andy’s hilarious stories and quips to Emily’s lilting laugh- this podcast was full of good feelings and solid teachings about the weight of being a beautifully broken person trying to find a way in this confusing world.

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    5
    Chambersbecc
    United States10 months ago
  • Podcasting Perfect!

    Absolute gold! Get it girls xx

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    5
    thestinebean
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • 5 Stars

    I personally know Andy and Emily and I’ve just learned so much about them as people spiritually and emotionally. LOVE IT

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    Nicknameirf
    United Statesa year ago

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They highlight the hosts' empathy and real-world coaching.
Listeners describe the show as funny, warm, and deeply practical.
The blend of psychology with faith-based perspectives is a standout for many listeners.

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ENCORE: Say More about Shame
Q: Can you say more about how to keep your cool with your kids during the tween preteen parent years, when all they do is point out your failures?
They encourage acknowledging the struggle openly, separating guilt from shame, and approaching parenting with compassionate self-talk and practical, non-churchy guidance to help kids feel seen while still setting boundaries.
ENCORE: Say More about Feeling Your Feelings
Q: How do I stop feeling bad about feeling bad?
The hosts suggest that feeling bad is common and explore cognitive and theological narratives that compound it, then pivot to a practical, step-by-step approach: identify the unpleasant feeling, name the bodily sensations, redirect thoughts back to the body, and practice grounding techniques while accepting the emotion as real without endorsing it, thereby gradually expanding one's window of tolerance.
S3 E8 | Say More about Boundaries - Again
Q: Why do so many people on social media think that every piece of content is supposed to be for them, and then get angry when it's not?
The hosts suggest that people behave as if everything is about them because of underlying internal boundaries and early relational development; when content triggers perceived slights, they react through a lens built from past needs and unmet emotions, which makes it feel personal even when it isn't.
S3 E7 | Say More about Routines
Q: Can you say more about building traditions with your family?
Studies show that creating predictable, low-pressure rituals—such as a regular Friday night dinner or movie—can reduce anxiety and loneliness by strengthening relational safety. The key is consistency and relational quality, with room for flexibility as families grow and circumstances change.
S1 E7 | Say More about Boundaries
Q: How do I say no to my mom without feeling guilty? And how do I deal with the repercussions when guilt is dumped back on me?
The hosts acknowledge the bravery of the question, outline a multi-step approach starting with awareness, then naming the guilt, seeking grounding, and finally practicing boundary-setting through repeated, small actions to reduce impact over time.

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What is Say More about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful mix of psychology, spirituality, and practical coaching, this show blends friendly banter with accessible insights on emotions, relationships, and personal growth. Episodes routinely tackle topics like shame, trauma, boundaries, attachment, and self-compassion, often featuring interactive exercises, real-life stories, and scripture-informed perspectives to help listeners respond with grace and clarity. A distinctive through-line is the pair's balance of clinical insight from a licensed professional with warm, conversational storytelling, plus occasional faith-based framing that aims to make complex topics feel approachable and actionable for everyday life.

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