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Talking about using leverage in life and business.

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Peter and Jon go deep on the one system that everything else depends on: time. They get into why every other tool, system, or hire is downstream of your ability to manage time, how to say no to almost everything, and why creating white space in your ... more

Jon sits down with Yossi Wachtel, owner of Monkey Wrench Plumbing, Heating, Air & Electric in Los Angeles. Yossi built from one truck in 2007 to 100 plus employees in one of the hardest markets in the country. They get into his obsession with hospita... more

Peter and Jon take a fresh look at Theory of Constraints through Justin Rothmarsh's book The Machine. The big reframe? You don't find your constraint. You select it. Plus why architecting your business to attack its constraint with AI and global tale... more

Christian Ruf and Jon break down why experience-based hiring is failing in an AI era. Christian placed 75 senior leaders last year at world-class organizations. 1 had industry experience. He hires for attributes. They get into commander's intent, why... more

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Recent Guests

Yossi Wachtel
Owner/operator of Monkey Wrench / founder involved in Nexstar and Sagan ventures
Monkey Wrench / Nexstar / Sagan
Episode: From One Truck to 100 Employees: The Hospitality Obsession Behind Monkey Wrench | Lazy Leverage #109
Christian Ruf
Navy SEAL, former Night Stalkers helicopter pilot, founder of Uncommon Elite
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Episode: Turbulence: Drop the Wrong Ones, Unleash the Right Ones | Lazy Leverage #103
Claude Burns
From Office Libations, former Naval officer
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Episode: Jon Matzner & Claude Burns talk military, business and global talent | Lazy Leverage #101
Dan Kerner
Business owner promoting content creation and his services
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Episode: Leadership is a Skill: Why Practice Beats Perfection Every Time | Lazy Leverage #95

Hosts

Jon Matzner
Co-host and host; recurring leadership and growth discussions; often anchors strategy and operations topics.
Peter Lohman
Host and co-host; drives structure, frameworks, and discussion around leverage in business and life.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 20 ratings
  • One of my favorite podcasts

    I love learning from Jon - the way he thinks is ruthlessly efficient and pragmatic. The business he has built with Sagan in a short amount of time is impressive; I enjoy listening about the journey, applying what I can from it.

    Apple Podcasts
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    misterlink
    United Statesa year ago

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Listeners appreciate the experimentation with AI and global talent as growth levers.
Insightful cross-industry perspectives (military to SMB) add credibility and variety.
Candid discussions about leadership and culture feel actionable for founders and operators.
Glowing host and guest synergy; tactical, no-fluff advice for scaling.
Strong emphasis on practical frameworks and real-world examples.

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Jon Matzner & Eric Pacifici talk SMB, market trends, and the global talent edge | Lazy Leverage #99
Q: What is QSBS, and why do lawyers charge so much for a QSBS opinion letter?
QSBS is a favorable tax exclusion on capital gains, potentially up to $15 million; the guests discuss the risk and complexity of issuing such letters, warning that if the transaction doesn't qualify, the client could face malpractice exposure and the lawyer could face significant liability, so pricing reflects that risk.
Jon Matzner & Eric Pacifici talk SMB, market trends, and the global talent edge | Lazy Leverage #99
Q: What are you currently seeing in the ETA/lower middle market deal flow and financing transitions?
The guests describe a trend toward higher buy-side leverage and more use of conventional financing while retaining strong demand for offshore talent and AI-enabled workflows to improve post-acquisition value.
Jon Matzner & Claude Burns talk military, business and global talent | Lazy Leverage #101
Q: How do you approach building a scalable, distributed workforce without losing control over quality?
By treating distributed team members as true enablers (not VAs), implementing strong SOPs, leveraging technology for coordination, and continuously aligning leadership with frontline execution.
Jon Matzner & Claude Burns talk military, business and global talent | Lazy Leverage #101
Q: Is the business venture-backed, and how did the funding approach shape the company?
The founders chose scrappy, self-funded growth rather than raising venture capital, focusing on profitability and practical scaling rather than chasing large external funding.
Jon Matzner & Claude Burns talk military, business and global talent | Lazy Leverage #101
Q: What does differentiation look like in a business that provides a routine service like restocking break rooms?
Differentiation comes from technology, data, and the customer experience—providing modern, consumer-like interfaces, transparency, and actionable insights that empower buyers to understand and improve their programs.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Lazy Leverage

What is Lazy Leverage about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A business-focused show that digs into practical leverage—whether through AI, global talent, scalable processes, or disciplined leadership—to help service-based and knowledge-work companies grow without losing culture or clarity. Episodes center on turning small operations into scalable teams, applying theories like the Theory of Constraints, and exploring how technology, outsourcing, and structured decision-making can boost throughput, margins, and customer experience. Noteworthy angles include hospitality and service-first mindsets, accountability cultures modeled after elite organizations, and AI-enabled workflows that aim to raise efficiency while preserving human judgment.

Mixing war-room leadership talk with hands-on operations, the ... more

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