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From What If to What Next

Rob Hopkins
Afrofuturism
Climate Change
Space To Breathe
Philadelphia, United States
Black Quantum Futurism
Community Futures Lab
Futera
Well-Being Economy
The Good Society
Inequality
Abolition
New Orleans
Time Travel / Time Perception
Public Health
Taxation
Universal Basic Income
Los Angeles
Atlanta

If there was ever a time for fresh thinking, for being bold, for being visionary and imaginative – for reimagining everything – this is it. Each episode, writer and Transition Movement founder, Rob Hopkins, invites cutting edge thinkers to visualise a new future. Join us as we ask What If...

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Imandeep Kaur, or Immy to her friends, is the Director and Co-Founder of Civic Square in Birmingham, their Director of Mission and Strategy. She is, to put it simply, one of the most inspiring people I have ever met, and to me she is one of the great... more

This month's episode is a conversation with producer Jordan Flaherty about the incredible new Afrofuturist film 'Space to Breathe', of which the promotional material states "Space to Breathe is an Afrofuturist science fiction hybrid documentary, fram... more

Kate Pickett was co-author of the seminal 'The Spirit Level', and she just published her new book 'The Good Society: and how we make it'.

'The Good Society' is an utterly brilliant and compelling vision of what a more equal future fundamentally roo... more

The second (Episode 102) of my rejuvenated and back-in-your-life podcast, 'From What If to What Next' features my conversation with the fabulous Solitaire Townsend.

Following 2025's New York Climate Week online, the key thing that caught my attenti... more

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Imandeep Kaur
Director and Co-Founder of Civic Square in Birmingham; Director of Mission and Strategy
Civic Square
Episode: 105 - Imandeep Kaur
Jordan Flaherty
Award-winning journalist, producer and author; involved as writer/producer for Space to Breathe
Space to Breathe film team
Episode: 104 - Jordan Flaherty
Kate Pickett
Professor of Epidemiology, author of The Good Society and How We Make It
University of York / Equality Trust / Health Equity North
Episode: 103 - Kate Pickett
Solitaire Townsend
Renowned sustainability expert, co-founder and chief solutionist at FUTERA, chair of the Solutions Union Charity
FUTERA
Episode: 102 - Solitaire Townsend
Rasheedah Phillips
Queer housing advocate, writer, interdisciplinary artist and cultural producer
Black Quantum Futurism / Afrofuturist projects
Episode: 101 - Rasheedah Phillips

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Rob Hopkins
Host of From What If to What Next; Host of the show

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 159 ratings
  • Inspiration and exactly what we need!

    This podcast is wonderful and I’m so glad I’ve found it, I can’t wait to go back and listen to all of the episodes. There are so many solutions to the challenges we face in our world today, this podcast interviews such a broad range of people with the broad range of solutions we need. Thanks so much Rob & team, a truly excellent podcast.

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    JHook Brizzle
    United Kingdom3 years ago
  • Yes, and …

    So inspiring !

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    FreddyB2A
    France3 years ago
  • Inspirational podcast

    Love this podcast. A different way of looking at and reframing this climate emergency and our communities

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    kariesa
    United Kingdom4 years ago
  • Truly inspiring

    Fascinating and galvanising conversations. This podcasts makes me excited, enthusiastic and determined for a better future. No small thing.

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    This is without doubt the most hopeful energising positive wonderful uplifting and supportive broadcast I have heard for a long time....particularly after this strange unfamiliar time of depression and possibilities

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    phineg
    United Kingdom5 years ago

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Inspiring and energizing discussions on climate, justice, and community-led change.
Engaging, hopeful conversations that connect big ideas to real-world solutions.
The host asks thoughtful questions that let guests dive deep into imagining better futures.

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Talking Points

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105 - Imandeep Kaur
Q: If you could propose three reforms to unlock deep systemic change, what would they be?
Focus on enabling housing that centers ecological and social welfare, reframe value to include care and well-being alongside financial returns, and pause new-build incentives to redirect resources toward retrofitting and revitalizing existing neighborhoods, thereby creating a platform for local ownership and long-term public benefit.
105 - Imandeep Kaur
Q: What would an enlightened government look like in this context?
An enlightened government would actively prioritize communities, invest in regenerative neighborhood infrastructure, and enable long-term, large-scale funding that supports care, repair, and remaking of places, rather than chasing short-term, tech-centric solutions. It would align policies with the values of equity, resilience, and human-centered design, and it would partner with communities to co-create outcomes.
104 - Jordan Flaherty
Q: For people who haven't yet seen Space to Breathe, could you give an overview of the film and what you set out to achieve when you started to make it?
The film imagines a future without police or prisons and follows a young person who makes a film about how people today built that future, using a hybrid documentary style to feel real and possible.
103 - Kate Pickett
Q: What are the two big levers you highlight for achieving a good society, and how could they transform policy and everyday life?
The two fundamental levers are universal basic income and taxing wealth; together they could provide financial security, unlock individual flourishing, fund essential public services, and demonstrate that a society can prioritize well-being over short-term gain, while reducing inequality and stimulating long-term prosperity.
103 - Kate Pickett
Q: Why did you write this book, and why has the vision of a good society underpinned your work for so long?
The aim was to synthesize decades of evidence on inequality and health into a coherent, aspirational vision that shows what works and why it matters, encouraging policymakers and the public to pursue practical reforms that make society more equal, healthy, and sustainable.

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Thoughtful conversations with leading thinkers who imagine practical, just futures across urbanism, climate, health, and social policy. Episodes spotlight grassroots regeneration, abolitionist organizing, equity-driven policy, and climate storytelling, often weaving in real-world projects, community-led initiatives, and imaginative approaches to systemic change. Notable strengths include a steady host guiding diverse guests through ambitious visions with grounded examples, a strong emphasis on care, repair, and social justice, and a willingness to blend activism with policy and design. The show is likely to appeal to listeners who want actionable ideas, inspiring narratives, and credible experts that connect theory to community impact.

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