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Everything you need to know about teaching and learning in one podcast. Top Class, the OECD Education Podcast, interviews leading educators, researchers and policy experts about the big issues facing education systems around the world. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed and arguments employed on the "TopClass" podcast and the recordings contained therein do not necessarily represent the official v... more

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What does it take to lead one of the world’s highest-performing education systems? In this episode of Top Class, OECD Editor Duncan Crawford speaks with Estonia’s Minister of Education and Research, Kristina Kallas. Drawing on Estonia’s experience wi... more

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Working with young children can be a tough job, so what can be done to ensure staff want to stay in their jobs? This episode of Top Class delves into the world of creches, kindergartens and nurseries. While most early childhood education and care sta... more

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Can alternative pathways into teaching help tackle teacher shortages and strengthen the profession? With traditional teacher preparation programmes struggling to keep pace with demand in some countries, especially in underserved areas, some are turni... more

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Generative Artificial Intelligence is rapidly emerging as one of the most debated forces in education today. Tools such as ChatGPT and Claude are widely predicted to reshape how students learn and how teachers teach. Advocates argue that GenAI could ... more

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Kristina Kallas
Estonia's Education and Research Minister
Estonian government
Episode: How Estonia delivers world class education, a conversation with Estonia’s Education Minister
Elizabeth Shuey
OECD analyst and author of the Starting Strong Teaching and Learning International Survey
OECD
Episode: What really keeps early childhood staff in their jobs?
Anne-Marie Brooks
Assistant Secretary in Ireland's Department of Children, Disability and Equality
Ireland Government
Episode: What really keeps early childhood staff in their jobs?
Barbara O'Brien
Principal of Greater Shepparton Secondary College in Victoria, Australia
Greater Shepparton Secondary College
Episode: How an alternative pathway into teaching comes to life
Joanna Barbousas
Professor at La Trobe University, Melbourne, involved in the Nexus program.
La Trobe University
Episode: How an alternative pathway into teaching comes to life
Miriam Tanti
Professor at La Trobe University, Melbourne, involved in the Nexus program.
La Trobe University
Episode: How an alternative pathway into teaching comes to life
Anthony Mann
Former OECD colleague and lead author of the report The State of Global Teenage Career Preparation
OECD
Episode: Why student career preparation is going wrong
Liliia Hrynevych
Former Minister of Education and Science of Ukraine, Vice Rector for Academic Affairs at Kharkiv-Karazin National University
Kharkiv-Karazin National University
Episode: Reinventing education in Ukraine with former education minister Liliia Hrynevych
Anna Sidoruk
CEO at Osvatoria NGO
Osvatoria NGO
Episode: The battle for education in Ukraine

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Duncan Crawford
Host of Top Class: The OECD Education Policy Podcast; Senior policy expert focused on education systems and reform.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 24 ratings
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    Why on earth is the white noise music during the introduction? Music overshadowed the content so had to turn off episode which is supposed to be informative.

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    United States8 years ago

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The show delivers informative, timely episodes with strong policy insights.
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High-quality expertise and data-driven discussions are a consistent strength.

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What really keeps early childhood staff in their jobs?
Q: What policy changes does OECD recommend to improve retention in ECEC globally?
OECD highlights clearer career progression, targeted training, mentoring, leadership development, and policies to reduce stress and administrative burdens, while ensuring adequate staffing pools and system-level supports.
What really keeps early childhood staff in their jobs?
Q: What actions are being taken to address pay and working conditions around the world, especially in tight-budget contexts?
Some countries raise pay through government-supported collective negotiations and industrial relations reforms, as in Ireland; others report higher satisfaction with salaries, and emphasize non-monetary factors like autonomy and professional development to retain staff.
What really keeps early childhood staff in their jobs?
Q: What do we know about the main reasons why staff stay or leave early in the ECEC settings?
Survey data show a mix of factors: staff feel valued by children and families but not by society, with stress and administrative burden contributing to turnover; pay and working conditions matter, while autonomy and opportunities to influence practice help retention.
Is generative AI a gamechanger for education?
Q: How concerned should we be about the potential for short-term performance gains with general purpose generative AI tools?
It's problematic because although these tools may show short-term performance improvements, they could lead to a lack of genuine skill acquisition and knowledge retention among students.
Is generative AI a gamechanger for education?
Q: Is generative AI going to be this incredible positive transformational tool, which is going to improve education, or should we be worried about it?
Generative AI has already transformed education as students and teachers incorporate it into their learning and teaching processes, making significant changes in the educational landscape.

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A thoughtful, policy-focused series that interviews researchers, policymakers, and education leaders about how systems teach, learn, and prepare for the future. Recent episodes center on high-performing national education models (including AI in schools), teacher shortages and retention, practical training pathways for teachers, and how large-scale international studies shape policy. A notable thread across episodes is balancing innovation with safeguarding learning, equity, and well-being, from Estonia's reform journey to Ukraine's contemporary schooling challenges and the rise of apprenticeship and Nexus-style pathways. The show often features policymakers and researchers who translate complex data into actionable classroom and system-lev... more

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