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It Turns Out

Kara Miller
Higher Education
Artificial Intelligence
Enrollment Crisis
Teaching Methodologies
Government Regulation
Resistance To Change
Marriage
Demographic Shifts
Economy
Faculty Structures
Healthcare
Openai
Political Influence
Traffic Congestion
Housing Market
Miami
Sam Altman
Academic Freedom
Congestion Pricing
Inequality

"It Turns Out" reveals the hidden realities reshaping our world—from how marriage impacts inequality to the way that the tax code has transformed wealth. Through conversations with experts who challenge conventional wisdom, award-winning journalist Kara Miller focuses each episode on groundbreaking research, changing how listeners see society, economics, technology, and human behavior. “It Turns O... more

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Despite endless corporate press releases and return-to-office mandates, the data reveals a surprising truth: the number of days worked from home has remained completely flat since 2023.

Stanford economist Nick Bloom tells Kara what's going on, who's... more

There's a big spotlight - and a lot of resistance to - billionaires, from Elon Musk to Larry Ellison. But we’re missing an under-the-radar revolution in American wealth.

The country is minting far more multimillionaires than it used to: People who m... more

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Over the last 40 years, many of the wealthiest Americans have effectively seceded from taxation.

While regular Americans - from teachers to surgeons - often pay between 25 and 50% of their income in taxes, lots of billionaires pay 5% (or less) in ta... more

Why do affluent suburbs in Boston and Houston vote completely differently, yet share one surprising thing in common? Economist Melissa Kearney, author of The Two-Parent Privilege, reveals that one of America's most consequential divides isn't about r... more

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Recent Guests

Melissa Kearney
Professor of economics, author of The Two-Parent Privilege
University of Notre Dame / University of Chicago Press
Episode: How marriage divides us. Melissa Kearney’s case, revisited
Coleen Murphy
Professor of Molecular Biology at Princeton, focuses on longevity
Princeton University
Episode: How to extend life - and where the science stands
Zohran Mamdani
Mayor of New York City (mentioned as guest on the show)
New York City government
Episode: Miami, Mamdani, and the War over Wealth
Joshua Goodman
Author and researcher cited in Massachusetts data clip
Boston University
Episode: Why have kids left public school?
Saul Justin Newman
Author of Morbid, Senior Research Fellow at UCL and the Oxford Institute of Population Aging
MIT Press / University College London / Oxford Institute of Population Aging
Episode: Longevity: What we get wrong
Nicholas Epley
Professor of Behavioral Science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business, author of A Little More Social
University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Episode: Being social scares us. It also makes us happier.
Jack Mountjoy
Associate Professor of Economics, University of Chicago Booth School of Business
University of Chicago Booth School of Business
Episode: Is College Worth It? (Plus, waitlists and marriage markets)
Kevin Hall
Nutrition and metabolism researcher; co-author of Food Intelligence
NIH; author of Food Intelligence
Episode: What we get wrong about weight and nutrition
Kasey Buckles
Professor of economics at the University of Notre Dame
University of Notre Dame
Episode: Should Americans have more kids?

Host

Kara Miller
Host of It Turns Out

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 224 ratings
  • Interesting!

    Enjoyable educational discussions. Kara is a great host. Good measured speaking patterns and very few fluff words. Mundane academic topics are discussed in an interesting way.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Maggie-dawg
    United States17 days ago
  • High quality conversations

    Incredibly thoughtful conversations with actual experts in the field being discussed. Grateful for high quality information out there like this!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    erinohara
    United Statesa month ago
  • Great, except

    Great podcast, except for Longevity episode. So out of character with the series.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    indy jones 11
    United States3 months ago
  • Great Guests, Great Questions, Great Show!

    Kara's guests are always top-notch experts in their field, and she seems to always come up with questions that get them sharing their expertise, then she lets them talk. This is an excellent format, and has brought me more interesting information than any other podcast I can remember.

    Highly recommended!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Blahgonator
    United States4 months ago
  • Balanced logical pod cast. Refreshing

    Finally a pod cast about the world we live in without extremism being the “hook.” Good work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Docneoapis
    United States5 months ago

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Some episodes receive critique for pacing or perceived gaps in rigor, but overall feedback highlights strong guest engagement and accessible analysis.

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How marriage divides us. Melissa Kearney’s case, revisited
Q: What would you do to avoid turning back progress on women's economic independence while supporting two-parent families?
I'd pursue policies that bolster earnings and stability for low-income parents, modernize custody and child-support regimes with a focus on children's welfare, and invest in programs that help both married and non-married parents co-create supportive environments for kids, including targeted Medicaid reform and broader access to high-quality, affordable education and housing.
How marriage divides us. Melissa Kearney’s case, revisited
Q: So if you were a queen of the world, what policy levers would you pull to improve this situation?
I'd prioritize expanding economic opportunity for non-college-educated workers through scaled-up, accessible labor-market training, especially via community colleges and regional universities, and redesign programs to avoid penalizing marriage in means-tested benefits while strengthening family stability.
Why have kids left public school?
Q: What is the potential impact of school choice on public schools according to the episode?
Choice programs can improve public school performance through competition, but risks include mismanagement of funds and regressive effects where subsidies mainly benefit families already able to pay for private options; careful design and oversight are needed.
Why have kids left public school?
Q: What policies could help public schools regain trust and improve outcomes without dismantling the system?
Focus on core goals like providing rich academic content, expanding access to advanced coursework (e.g., AP CS Principles), and implementing scalable reforms like automatic enrollment to place capable students in higher-level content, along with improved teacher quality and accountability paired with meaningful pay incentives.
Longevity: What we get wrong
Q: What happened with resveratrol and why is it a cautionary tale for longevity hype?
Resveratrol was marketed aggressively, but despite widespread promotion and major investments, it showed no meaningful clinical benefits beyond causing diarrhea, illustrating how marketing can outpace science.

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A data-driven, policy-focused show that brings researchers, economists, and scientists to discuss how big ideas—tax policy, education, longevity, urban planning, and technology—shape society and daily life. Episodes illuminate how research translates into real-world outcomes, often challenging common assumptions with rigorous analysis and accessible storytelling. Notable strengths include high-quality guests, thoughtful questioning, and a calm, analytical tone that favors context over hot takes. This mix makes it a strong match for listeners who want nuanced, evidence-based discussions that connect research to policy and everyday decisions.

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2. Coleen Murphy
3. Zohran Mamdani
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5. Saul Justin Newman
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7. Jack Mountjoy
8. Kevin Hall

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