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A podcast about the design, development, and business of great software. Each week thoughtbot is joined by the people who build and nurture the products we love.

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Latest Episodes

Will is back in the host seat this week to chat to the one and only Kelli Lucas, Co-Founder & Chief Design Officer at LunarLab.

In this episode, Will and Kelli discuss, amongst many things; the push and pull relationship between designers and develo... more

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Would you ever go into business with your family? As a follow up to last week’s episode, we’ve brought on the one and only Doron Birnbaum (twin brother of our dear Sami) to get both sides of the story about their latest business venture.

Doron takes... more

Would you ever go into business with your family? In this week’s episode, our hosts take on Sami’s tale of becoming the CTO of his brother’s business venture.

After the trio get into some excellent running advice, Sami reminds us of the importance o... more

Sami is back this week with Mike McQuaid, CTPO and Homebrew Project Leader, as they take a deep dive into the importance of open source maintainers in modern software engineering.

With 18 years of experience reducing developer friction and scaling o... more

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Recent Guests

Kelli Lucas
President and Chief Design Officer at LunarLab
LunarLab
Episode: 622: Six Opinions Wrapped in Code with Kelli Lucas
Doron Birnbaum
Founder/consultant; involved in the charity data project
Bridging the Gap Consultancy
Episode: 621: My twin brother responds… with Doron Birnbaum
Mike McQuaid
Administrates CTPO, Homebrew Project Leader, Engineering and Product Leader with 18 years of experience
Homebrew
Episode: 619: Inside Modern Software Engineering with Homebrew’s Mike McQuaid
Jesse Mecham
Founder of YNAB (You Need A Budget)
YNAB
Episode: 618: 22 Years of Bootstrapping with Jesse Mecham
Jorge Marubia
Principal programmer on the product team at 37signals
37signals
Episode: 617: Lexxy, Basecamp, and the Joy of Building with Jorge Marubia
Victoria Plutshack
Climate and energy specialist, qualitative social scientist with expertise in technology transitions, climate finance, international development, and gender
Independent academic/consultant
Episode: 616: What’s Really Going On with AI Data Centres with Dr. Victoria Plutshack
Joe Cohen
Legal innovation partner at Harvey
Harvey
Episode: 615: Harvey AI and the Future of Law
Andy Budd
Venture partner at Seedcamp, advisor to startups and senior designers
Seedcamp
Episode: 613: Preserving Companies and Design with Andy Budd
Brennan Dunn
Founder of RightMessage
RightMessage
Episode: 611: Magic is the right word, with Brennan Dunn

Hosts

Sami Birnbaum
Co-host who engages in discussions, often adds technical and product perspectives.
Chad Pytel
Co-host who contributes deep engineering and product leadership perspectives.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 132 ratings
  • Hit or miss, trending towards miss.

    This dude really just claimed that his company has artificial general intelligence. Ok.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Nick8090908
    United States3 years ago
  • Worse over time

    I can’t say I’m a fan of the more recent podcast episodes. It’s gone from discussing interesting technical problems to business to solely interviews with clients who hired ThoughtBot. High quality audio, low quality filler content.

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    1
    TravelHardyLlama
    United States6 years ago
  • The human side

    Lindsey is a great host. She keeps the entire conversation moving and ensures that the discussions lead to thought starters for listeners, even when the topics being discussed might be highly technical. You're guaranteed to get something out of every interview. Lindsey's also wickedly funny so you'll never be bored. Give this show a go.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Anuj Adhiya
    United States6 years ago
  • Entertaining, insightful and actionable! 🔥

    Whether you’re well established as someone who can translate creative energy into the impact you want to have on the world, or just getting started as a catalyst for change - this is a must-listen podcast for you! Chad and Lindsey do an incredible job leading conversations that cover a huge breadth of topics related to the ins and outs of building a thriving career and life you can be proud of as a creator - from leaders who’ve actually walked the path. Highly recommend listening and subscribing... more

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    5
    JoshCrist
    United States7 years ago
  • Compelling

    One of a small number of podcasts I will listen to immediately when a new episode releases, skipping over others that have been in my feed longer. And one of an even smaller number of podcasts I will frequently listen to a second (or third) time. Really quality content and guests. I'm not in the software development industry but as a small business owner I regularly derive value.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    snlsn
    United States8 years ago

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Guests consistently bring practical, actionable insights for builders.
Listeners appreciate the mix of engineering, design, and business topics.
Audio quality is strong and interviews are easy to follow.
The host balances technical depth with engaging storytelling.

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Talking Points

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621: My twin brother responds… with Doron Birnbaum
Q: Why did you shift from a product to a service model?
A key investor/partner concluded that while the product had value, the real differentiator was the service layer—the ongoing expertise and hands-on help our team could provide to implement and adapt the system for different charities.
619: Inside Modern Software Engineering with Homebrew’s Mike McQuaid
Q: How did you get started in Open Source and what drew you to Homebrew?
Mike describes a long path from KDE involvement to leading Homebrew, emphasizing the habit of fixing personal itch and the joy of making a project better, which sustained his Open Source work for many years.
617: Lexxy, Basecamp, and the Joy of Building with Jorge Marubia
Q: What's next for Lexxy after its initial release?
Jorge describes plans for Lexxy 1.0, collaboration features, and extensibility through official extensions; ongoing community contributions and keeping Lexxy lightweight for core editor needs are emphasized as priorities.
617: Lexxy, Basecamp, and the Joy of Building with Jorge Marubia
Q: What made you go with vanilla Rails instead of adding React or other front-end frameworks?
The host asks about tech stack choices; Jorge explains that Basecamp's history with Rails, Rails internal evolution, and a philosophy of minimizing dependencies guided them to a vanilla Rails plus Hotwire approach, leveraging server-side rendering for speed and simplicity while avoiding the fragility of heavy client-side frameworks.
616: What’s Really Going On with AI Data Centres with Dr. Victoria Plutshack
Q: Is it plausible to slow down data-center buildout or regulate AI energy use effectively?
It's plausible but unlikely to be adopted quickly due to financial incentives and the scale of investment; governance, economics, and market dynamics currently push toward expansion, though local actions can slow growth and create space for more sustainable planning.

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Cascading conversations around software design, engineering practices, and the business of building tech products. Episodes frequently cover engineering decisions, product strategy, AI adoption in engineering and design, and leadership topics such as governance, organizational culture, and regulatory perspectives. Noteworthy is the mix of deep technical discussions with practical business insights, guest expertise from engineering leaders, designers, and executives, and a consistent emphasis on actionable guidance for builders, product teams, and startups. Listeners can expect thoughtful debates on code quality, tooling, AI integration, and how to scale teams and products while preserving culture and trust.

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