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“Hard Fork” is a show about the future that’s already here. Each week, journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore and make sense of the latest in the rapidly changing world of tech. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcas... more

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This week, the Commerce Department lifted its restrictions on Anthropic’s powerful A.I. models, Claude Mythos and Claude Fable. We dissect why the government took such a hands-on approach in the first place, how the restriction on the OpenAI model GP... more

This week, we’re bringing you two A.I.-related stories from our colleagues at The New York Times.

First, Rachel Abrams, a host of “The Daily,” talks with the Times reporter Eli Saslow about a woman in a remote part of Washington who is using an A.I.... more

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Recent Guests

Dana Suskind
Pediatric surgeon, childhood development expert, professor at University of Chicago, founder and co-director of the TMW Center for Early Learning and Public Health
University of Chicago; TMW Center
Episode: Fable Ban Reversed + Dr. Dana Suskind on Parenting With A.I. + Prediction Market Drama
Eli Saslow
Journalist known for immersive profiles; wrote on loneliness and AI in elder care
The New York Times
Episode: ‘The Daily’ and ‘The Opinions’: How A.I. Is Changing Loneliness and Taste
Kyle Chayka
New Yorker writer covering Silicon Valley culture
The New Yorker
Episode: ‘The Daily’ and ‘The Opinions’: How A.I. Is Changing Loneliness and Taste
Sophie Haigney
Writer and critic focusing on taste and culture
Various including The New Yorker
Episode: ‘The Daily’ and ‘The Opinions’: How A.I. Is Changing Loneliness and Taste
Daniel Kokotajlo
Co-author of AI 2027; author on AI futures
AI 2027 / Frontier Labs (as discussed)
Episode: ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 3: Differing Visions of an A.I. Future
Sayash Kapoor
AI researcher at Princeton; co-author of AI as Normal Technology
Princeton University
Episode: ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 3: Differing Visions of an A.I. Future
Dwarkesh Patel
YouTuber and podcaster; AI commentator
Independent/YouTube
Episode: ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 3: Differing Visions of an A.I. Future
Dylan Field
CEO of Figma, AI and web-based design platform
Figma
Episode: ‘Hard Fork’ Live Part 2: Dylan Field on Standing Out in the A.I. Era
Satya Nadella
CEO of Microsoft
Microsoft
Episode: ‘Hard Fork’ Live, Part 1: Satya Nadella and Cindy Cohn

Hosts

Kevin Roose
Tech columnist at The New York Times; host of Hard Fork; longtime NYT tech columnist with a focus on AI, policy, and tech industry dynamics.
Casey Newton
Technology journalist; co-host of the show; writer focused on platform governance, tech policy, and industry culture.

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4.5 out of 5 stars from 11.9k ratings
  • AI Utopianism

    It really has reduced to being an AI infomercial, basically.

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    BattleLemming
    United States20 days ago
  • Grim

    Grim

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    Fyad jones
    United States20 days ago
  • AI stooges

    These guys have become unthinking stooges for AI and big tech, avoid.

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    Imadeahugemistake
    Australia22 days ago
  • Umm

    ** update - taking a vacation during WWDC. That’s a choice.

    This podcast has all the excitement you’d expect of two married people talking at each other. It was a lot more interesting when AI was trying to end a marriage and the other single host was talking every episode about dating apps and how ridiculous the dating scene is in SF. There’s very little that’s relatable from two people who are in happy relationships. Unless you are into the highlights of Bay Area tech bro “culture”.

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    llorcan
    United Statesa month ago
  • The live shows are an abomination

    I like this show but the live shows are awful and a waste of time. And that’s what they’ve posted the past two weeks. Please stop. If you want to do live events fine, but don’t pretend that’s your podcast and then take weeks off. Im an NYT subscriber. I expect more from you.

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    NomicAtomy
    United Statesa month ago

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Advice for guests: clear viewpoint, credible background, and a strong stance on AI/governance helps.
The banter and guest variety keep tech topics engaging and fresh.
The show is a reliable source for staying current on AI and tech in society.
Listeners appreciate access to industry insiders and experts across tech, policy, and research.
Balanced, insightful coverage of AI policy, though some listeners feel the humor can overshadow depth.

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Q: Can Sam Altman be trusted?
The guests explain that the New Yorker profile is forensic and balanced, presenting a range of opinions from severe criticism to defenders, and emphasizing a broader pattern of truth-telling versus hype among Silicon Valley leaders.
‘Hard Fork’ Live Part 2: Dylan Field on Standing Out in the A.I. Era
Q: How is it going for you as a public company CEO in a market that's skeptical about Enterprise SaaS?
Dylan Field expresses bullishness about the continued demand for skilled design and enterprise software, emphasizing that software scale and the ability to differentiate through unique design and AI-enabled capabilities remain central to success, despite skepticism.
‘Hard Fork’ Live Part 2: Dylan Field on Standing Out in the A.I. Era
Q: So Dylan, I wanna start by reading you a Facebook message I got on August 5th, 2009.
The message is acknowledged and contextualized as part of Dylan Field's backstory, illustrating a personal history that intersects with his later career in AI and design, with a light-hearted note that the moment was surprising but ultimately harmless.
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: Given the liability debate, how might the transition affect private car ownership and the broader transportation system?
Expect a gradual shift: many will retain some driver-assist features for decades, while fleets grow; ownership may decline in cities as robo-taxis become cheaper and more convenient, but policy and economics will shape adoption.
Interesting Times: Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: What level of autonomy do you consider sufficient for consumer-facing self-driving cars today, and how do you evaluate safety when there are human interventions in the loop?
There will still be a role for human intervention in some systems (driver assist) for now, but the aim is to shift toward fully autonomous operations where possible, with safety data guiding the pace of rollout.

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Hard Fork delivers timely, often provocative discussions at the intersection of technology, policy, and society. Core hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton unpack big tech stories, offer brisk interviews with industry leaders, researchers, and journalists, and close with rapid-fire segments that mix culture and business news. The show consistently centers AI, platform governance, workforce impact, and regulatory dynamics, making it a go-to for listeners who want sharp analysis, behind-the-scenes industry context, and a sense of how tech shifts affect work, politics, and everyday life. Notable strengths include high-level policy and governance conversations paired with insider perspectives from journalists and researchers, plus a lively banter ... more

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2. Eli Saslow
3. Kyle Chayka
4. Sophie Haigney
5. Daniel Kokotajlo
6. Sayash Kapoor
7. Dwarkesh Patel
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