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“Hard Fork” is a show about the future that’s already here. Each week, journalists Kevin Roose and Casey Newton explore and make sense of the latest in the rapidly changing world of tech. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcas... more

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This week, we headed to Mountain View, Calif., for the annual developer event Google I/O. We share our reactions to Google’s biggest announcements, including a revamped search box, new agentic tools that compete with OpenClaw and an updated flash mod... more

This week, between the president’s negotiations in China and a potential executive order, we discuss why the Trump administration seems to be changing its tune on A.I. safety. Then, Nikesh Arora, chief executive of Palo Alto Networks, the largest cyb... more

This week we’re taking another look at prediction markets and a new series of scandals. Is Congress finally ready to rein them in? Then, the journalist Joanna Stern returns to the show to discuss her new book “I Am Not A Robot,” all about turning her... more

This week, OpenAI announced a loosened partnership with Microsoft and an aggressive new strategy to secure computing power. We unpack what these updates signal about OpenAI’s business strategy and whether the company can scale while balancing a trial... more

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Recent Guests

Nikesh Arora
CEO and Chairman of Palo Alto Networks
Palo Alto Networks
Episode: A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express
Joanna Stern
Author, formerly Wall Street Journal, launches New Things; author of I Am Not A Robot
New Things / Author
Episode: Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School
Rachel Cohn
Hard Fork producer who attended Attention School
The New York Times
Episode: Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School
Adam Rodman
Internal medicine physician at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center and assistant professor at Harvard Medical School
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center; Harvard Medical School
Episode: OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM
David Duvenaud
Associate professor at University of Toronto; co-creator of Talkie (LLM trained on pre-1930s data)
University of Toronto; Talkie project
Episode: OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM
Andrew Yang
Former presidential candidate focused on universal basic income
Yang Campaign / Tech for Good
Episode: Tim Cook’s Legacy + The Future of U.B.I. With Andrew Yang + HatGPT
Sebastian Mallaby
Author, The Infinity Machine
Simon & Schuster / The New York Times
Episode: The Future of Addictive Design + Going Deep at DeepMind + HatGPT
Jack Clark
Co-founder and head of policy at Anthropic
Anthropic
Episode: The Ezra Klein Show: How Fast Will A.I. Agents Rip Through the Economy?
Jasmine Sun
Freelance journalist invited to discuss AI and writing
The Atlantic contributor (as discussed)
Episode: ‘A.I.-Washing’ Layoffs? + Why L.L.M.s Can’t Write Well + Tokenmaxxing

Hosts

Kevin Roose
Tech columnist at The New York Times; host of Hard Fork; longtime NYT tech columnist with a focus on AI, policy, and tech industry dynamics.
Casey Newton
Technology journalist; co-host of the show; writer focused on platform governance, tech policy, and industry culture.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 11.8k ratings
  • Much better

    I’ve always liked this podcast but Casey used to bug me a little, leaning a little too hard on quips during interviews. I think he’s gotten a lot better at balancing humor and serious questions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoeMac86
    United States24 days ago
  • The economy is doing well got the general public right now?

    Seriously? The economy is doing well right now for the general public? In April 2026? What bubble is this person living in? Unfortunately I think one of the hosts is very, Very biased towards tech & AI which shows in his coverage of everything on the podcast. He brushes past a lot of real critiques of tech & AI. He says he has real concerns……doesn’t seem like it. He is very biased and it shows. This podcast was more even, critical, less biased in the past, not anymore unfortunately.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    RyderCA
    United Statesa month ago
  • Hilarious hosts and timely topics!

    These two hosts really know how to bring their personality to an otherwise dull tech news media landscape. Kevin and Casey have a great banter that keeps me coming back. Their coverage of the news is well balanced albeit a bit sarcastic but I'd be remiss if I say I didn't enjoy it. Plus their guests seem to get a word in edgewise every time. Great show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Danny_1985
    United Statesa month ago
  • Hard Fork

    Kevin and Casey are alsolutely hilarious and the content is extremely relevant and informative.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    insane from barking dog
    United Statesa month ago
  • Out of balance

    When it first started Hard Fork brought a blend of deep technical coverage along with smart commentary on major industry events, bringing in experts that could provide the listener with more clarity about the technical frontiers of our world, with some comedy as well. Today the show is largely two journalists cherry picking articles to cover so they can provide context for their own political belief. They do not bring on guests who challenge their technical understanding or even political belief... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Dr JTP
    United Statesa month ago

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Advice for guests: clear viewpoint, credible background, and a strong stance on AI/governance helps.
The banter and guest variety keep tech topics engaging and fresh.
The show is a reliable source for staying current on AI and tech in society.
Listeners appreciate access to industry insiders and experts across tech, policy, and research.
Balanced, insightful coverage of AI policy, though some listeners feel the humor can overshadow depth.

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A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express
Q: How does Mythos compare to other frontier models like GPT-5.5 Cyber in defense and security testing?
Mythos and GPT-5.5 Cyber yield different findings depending on grounding and training, and together they illustrate a broader landscape of what modern models can discover, particularly around vulnerabilities and threat analysis.
A.I. Safety Is So Back + Mythos Mayhem with Nikesh Arora + Hot Mess Express
Q: What is the current trajectory of AI regulation in the US government, and how does Mythos influence it?
Mythos has become a focal point in understanding the risk horizon; internal debates are about how to vet and regulate frontier models to prevent harm, with some factions pushing for stronger pre-release testing and others pushing back against slowing innovation.
Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School
Q: How did Stern approach writing her book with AI, and what balance did she strike between AI assistance and human input?
She used AI for editing, notes, and fact-checking while relying on a human editor and illustrator for structure and accuracy, emphasizing that AI augmented but did not replace core human work.
Can the U.S. Rein in Prediction Markets? + Joanna Stern on Her Year of A.I. Experiments + Our Producer Goes to Attention School
Q: What was Joanna Stern's motivation for spending a year using AI across her life?
She wanted to explore how AI could reshape everyday tasks, work, and personal life beyond the hype, to understand its real-world impact and potential shifts in journalism and living with technology.
OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM
Q: What are the stakes if Musk wins?
If Musk succeeds, remedies could include returning funds to the nonprofit, potentially affecting Stargate's funding and OpenAI's broader business plans, although experts note the litigation is unusual and unlikely to topple the company.

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Hard Fork delivers timely, often provocative discussions at the intersection of technology, policy, and society. Core hosts Kevin Roose and Casey Newton unpack big tech stories, offer brisk interviews with industry leaders, researchers, and journalists, and close with rapid-fire segments that mix culture and business news. The show consistently centers AI, platform governance, workforce impact, and regulatory dynamics, making it a go-to for listeners who want sharp analysis, behind-the-scenes industry context, and a sense of how tech shifts affect work, politics, and everyday life. Notable strengths include high-level policy and governance conversations paired with insider perspectives from journalists and researchers, plus a lively banter ... more

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