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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New Yor... more

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One question has haunted my investment strategy for years: What is cryptocurrency actually for? It feels as though the vibes are constantly shifting — one day it’s the dollar’s successor, and the next it’s little more than a meme. My guest this week ... more

President Trump has tested the limits of presidential power since he returned to office — from his assertion of total control over federal agencies to his war in Iran. But so far, many of Trump’s most aggressive moves have been stopped by the Supreme... more

How would you live if you knew when you were going to die? I sat down with the former Republican senator Ben Sasse to hear how he is facing his own mortality after receiving a terminal cancer diagnosis. For Sasse, cancer brings pain, but also clarity... more

Even if you don’t believe he walked on water, the teachings of Jesus still have a certain power. My guest this week, the New Testament scholar Bart Ehrman, calls himself a “Christian atheist.” I asked Ehrman to come on the show to explore Jesus’ mess... more

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Recent Guests

Anthony Pompliano
Crypto investor and advocate, guest on the episode
Pomp Investments / crypto advocate
Episode: A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me
Sarah Isgur
conservative court watcher, lawyer, author
Last Branch Standing
Episode: Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Ben Sasse
Former U.S. Senator, President of University of Florida (at time of interview)
University of Florida; U.S. Senate
Episode: How Ben Sasse Is Living Now That He Is Dying
Bart Ehrman
New Testament scholar, author of Love Thy Stranger
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (historical Jesus research)
Episode: Did Jesus Rise From the Dead? A Debate.
Mark Dubowitz
CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Episode: How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Jeremy Carl
Author of The Unprotected Class; senior fellow at the Claremont Institute
Claremont Institute
Episode: White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right
Chris Hayes
Host, All In with Chris Hayes
MSNBC/All In
Episode: The Democrats Could Still Screw This Up
Curt Mills
Executive Director of the American Conservative
American Conservative
Episode: Does the Iran War Put America First?
Jared Isaacman
Billionaire entrepreneur, aviation defense contractor, and SpaceX astronaut (private citizen)
Entrepreneur / SpaceX (Spaceflight)
Episode: The New Space Race

Host

Ross Douthat
Host, guiding conversations and introducing guests

Reviews

4.0 out of 5 stars from 10.8k ratings
  • Ben Sasse

    Loved the Ben Sasse interview - a very special human being with so much wisdom.

    I enjoy your up front interviewing style.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Baba Lyn
    New Zealand19 days ago
  • I learn from your conversations

    This is not a podcast. I thought I’d be interested in, but I was wrong. I think you have interesting conversations with people and positions I would never want to listen to. Unlike the other review, I found the Bart Erhman episode really helpful. When you study the bible for 50 years like he has, you have a right - and evidence - to change positions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    La Leary
    United States19 days ago
  • I tried, I really did

    I used to love MOO. It was incredibly insightful and helpful to hear multiple viewpoints debate the same topic. Since it’s become The Ross Show (still unclear why that happened), I’ve felt countless times that he not only fails to consider a left of center viewpoint, but he also misrepresents the sentiments of the “Never Trump,” right-leaning conservative. Who is this podcast meant to be for, honestly? Ross is brilliant, clearly; but his vantage is also too idiosyncratic to resonate with anyone,... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Purpletaco55
    United States22 days ago
  • Giving a microphone to morons

    The episode on Jesus was the last straw. Is this NYT or high school debate club?

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    qwerty7546
    Canada23 days ago
  • I love this show

    Ross Douthat is one of my favourite interviewers because I like he gets his guests to present THEIR worldview, mainly asking clarifying questions, and confining challenges to syllogism rather than values. This is very refreshing for someone genuinely interested in what other people’s opinions are, when they are permitted to put forward their best case. It’s left to the listener to determine whether they agree or not. Many reviewers seem to find it frustrating that Douthat “doesnt argue enough... more

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    Sascha Cee
    Australia24 days ago

Listeners Say

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Audience appreciates diverse guest expertise, from foreign policy to technology and religion, though polarizing topics can generate strong opinions.
Overall, the reception highlights high regard for depth and civility, with occasional pushback on perceived partisanship or host interrogation style.
Listeners praise the show for thoughtful, boundary-pushing dialogue and intellectual rigor.
Some episodes attract critiques of perceived bias or interruptions during interviews.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Q: What did you see as the main constraint on President Trump's use of executive power?
The main constraint has consistently been the courts, especially the Supreme Court, which has checked or blocked Trump's executive orders and initiatives when they encroach on Congress's prerogatives or constitutionally defined powers.
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Q: What would phase two and phase three look like if negotiations occur?
Phase two would continue degrading Iranian power with support to the opposition and potential continuation of Israeli actions with U.S. backing; phase three would intensify support to the Iranian people, to enable a mass street movement that could bring down the regime, including possible U.S. and allied weapons support if necessary.
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Q: Tell me what your vision of victory in the war is.
The vision of total victory is the end of the Iranian regime; phases would degrade the regime's military and repression capabilities, then empower opposition and possibly force regime change, while negotiations and deals could still be pursued to shape the end state.
Did Jesus Rise From the Dead? A Debate.
Q: What is the scholarly consensus on the relationship of the four gospels to each other?
The consensus is that Mark was likely the earliest gospel, with Matthew and Luke using Mark as a source, and John written later with substantial differences from the synoptic accounts.
How Ben Sasse Is Living Now That He Is Dying
Q: So just tell listeners and viewers what you said in your maiden speech when you entered the Senate roughly, what was your message?
I said that voters hate us because we're not doing our job and we need to confront big national problems with honesty, not posturing, and to recover civics and institutional trust.

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What is Interesting Times about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Thoughtful, wide-ranging conversations explore the currents shaping politics, global affairs, science, and culture. Episodes frequently feature high-profile policymakers, academics, and industry leaders discussing foreign policy, technology, religion, and social issues, with a clear emphasis on how ideas translate into public life and policy. Notable throughlines include debates over U.S. intervention, diplomacy, the future of AI, demographic and geopolitical shifts, and the role of ideology in shaping policy and culture. The show often blends rigorous analysis with open-ended dialogue, inviting nuanced takes from guests who bring specialized expertise or frontline experience. Its strength lies in connecting big-picture questions to concret... more

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