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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New Yor... more

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The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War atmosphere, with people talking about an A.I. arms... more

A stalemated war. Fractured alliances. A rival waiting in the wings. It feels to me that we’re having an “end of the American empire” moment. My guest this week, Ray Dalio, is an unlikely prophet of doom — the billionaire Bridgewater investor conquer... more

Self-driving cars are here. But what kind of future will they bring: safe roads and extra time or dystopian traffic jams? My guest this week is Andrew Miller, who writes about self-driving cars and transportation policy. I love the open road, so I pr... more

One question has haunted my investment strategy for years: What is cryptocurrency actually for? It feels as though the vibes are constantly shifting — one day it’s the dollar’s successor, and the next it’s little more than a meme. My guest this week ... more

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Recent Guests

Andrew Miller
Writer on transportation policy, co-author of The End of Driving
Changing Lanes (Sub-stack)
Episode: Why Are We Still Driving?
Anthony Pompliano
Crypto investor and advocate, guest on the episode
Pomp Investments / crypto advocate
Episode: A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me
Sarah Isgur
conservative court watcher, lawyer, author
Last Branch Standing
Episode: Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Ben Sasse
Former U.S. Senator, President of University of Florida (at time of interview)
University of Florida; U.S. Senate
Episode: How Ben Sasse Is Living Now That He Is Dying
Bart Ehrman
New Testament scholar, author of Love Thy Stranger
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (historical Jesus research)
Episode: Did Jesus Rise From the Dead? A Debate.
Mark Dubowitz
CEO of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Episode: How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Jeremy Carl
Author of The Unprotected Class; senior fellow at the Claremont Institute
Claremont Institute
Episode: White Identity Is Galvanizing the Right
Chris Hayes
Host, All In with Chris Hayes
MSNBC/All In
Episode: The Democrats Could Still Screw This Up
Curt Mills
Executive Director of the American Conservative
American Conservative
Episode: Does the Iran War Put America First?

Host

Ross Douthat
Host, guiding conversations and introducing guests

Reviews

4.0 out of 5 stars from 10.9k ratings
  • too much interruptions by host

    in the episode with Ray Dalio, just let the guest finish his thoughts. So many times before he could get to his point, he got interrupted and redirected, kind of frustrating.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    lifjichkmvfi
    United States10 days ago
  • Let the robot drive, and you take a bike instead — see if it helps your motor skills.

    Why don’t you get on a bike to get over your car-mobility needs instead? You are so backwards it's difficult to believe on the NYT.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Fb.bbbfff
    Canada10 days ago
  • Ray Dalia Interview

    This is an interesting podcast but it’s beyond frustrating to hear the interviewer constantly interupt the guest. I mean, when the guest has to repeatedly ask the interviewer to let him finish speaking maybe that should tell you something.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Neza62
    United States10 days ago
  • As An Independent, I endorse

    I consider myself probably center to center left, it’s a great podcast with a free flowing discussion with actual great points. Some of the reviews are crazy. In a world full of conservative lunatics, Ross is the bad guy?! C’mon.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    brianbuck13
    United States16 days ago
  • Liberals: first one’s free!

    I don’t like Ross. I find his columns pompous and sophistic. For years, I avoided them to deny him the clicks. Then he started a podcast, which I didn’t listen to, until he had a guest I wanted to hear. I was surprised by his open-heartedness and fair interview style. Now, I listen to the podcasts the day they come out. I think his personality is leavened by his guests. He’s not as tendentious as you think he’ll be. Maybe one of these years I’ll click on a column. Maybe. But try the podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hrshihgdwchjtdsgjj
    United States21 days ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Audience appreciates diverse guest expertise, from foreign policy to technology and religion, though polarizing topics can generate strong opinions.
Overall, the reception highlights high regard for depth and civility, with occasional pushback on perceived partisanship or host interrogation style.
Listeners praise the show for thoughtful, boundary-pushing dialogue and intellectual rigor.
Some episodes attract critiques of perceived bias or interruptions during interviews.

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#68
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#108
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: What is the core liability issue and why is it a hurdle to adoption?
Liability is a major obstacle because regulators expect a high standard of safety; firms need clear, enforceable rules so that incidents don't bankrupt innovation, while players like Waymo and Tesla navigate differing liability approaches and public scrutiny.
Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: Sales pitch for self-driving cars—what would be good about a self-driving future?
Andrew Miller argues that eliminating driver error could drastically reduce fatalities, free hundreds of millions of hours for other activities, and unlock time and attention for individuals, with safety improving as sensing tech and AI mature.
Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Q: What did you see as the main constraint on President Trump's use of executive power?
The main constraint has consistently been the courts, especially the Supreme Court, which has checked or blocked Trump's executive orders and initiatives when they encroach on Congress's prerogatives or constitutionally defined powers.
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Q: What would phase two and phase three look like if negotiations occur?
Phase two would continue degrading Iranian power with support to the opposition and potential continuation of Israeli actions with U.S. backing; phase three would intensify support to the Iranian people, to enable a mass street movement that could bring down the regime, including possible U.S. and allied weapons support if necessary.
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Q: Tell me what your vision of victory in the war is.
The vision of total victory is the end of the Iranian regime; phases would degrade the regime's military and repression capabilities, then empower opposition and possibly force regime change, while negotiations and deals could still be pursued to shape the end state.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Interesting Times

What is Interesting Times about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Thoughtful, wide-ranging conversations explore the currents shaping politics, global affairs, science, and culture. Episodes frequently feature high-profile policymakers, academics, and industry leaders discussing foreign policy, technology, religion, and social issues, with a clear emphasis on how ideas translate into public life and policy. Notable throughlines include debates over U.S. intervention, diplomacy, the future of AI, demographic and geopolitical shifts, and the role of ideology in shaping policy and culture. The show often blends rigorous analysis with open-ended dialogue, inviting nuanced takes from guests who bring specialized expertise or frontline experience. Its strength lies in connecting big-picture questions to concret... more

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