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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New Yor... more

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What does a liberal solution to the masculinity crisis look like? As men fall behind in the American educational system and the economy, they’re looking for meaning — and often find it in the wrong places.

My guest today is Scott Galloway, a profess... more

American leaders are staying in office past their prime. Boomers are reluctant to relinquish control — from political offices to corner offices — to the detriment of their juniors. In a society where the elderly hold so much power, should younger gen... more

Is President Trump’s grand strategy unraveling? The United States is at war with Iran, China is ascendant, Russia and Ukraine are stalemated and American allies are openly questioning our commitment to them.

Elbridge Colby, the under secretary of de... more

Democratic socialists are having a moment. But can they actually remake the Democratic Party — and the American economy — in their image? My guest today, Bhaskar Sunkara, is longtime democratic socialist, and he makes the case that socialism has a un... more

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Recent Guests

Elbridge Colby
Undersecretary of Defense for Policy (guest)
Department of Defense
Episode: Iran, China, Canada? A Defense of Trump’s Grand Strategy
Bhaskar Sunkara
President of The Nation magazine and founding editor of Jacobin
The Nation; Jacobin
Episode: A Vision of a ‘Society Without Capitalism’
Rod Dreher
Writer and commentator known for The Benedict Option, Living in Wonder
Author
Episode: ‘ I'm Worried About Weimar America’
Barack Obama
Former U.S. President introduced as delivering a unifying Independence Day address
Office of Barack Obama
Episode: The Unifying Speech We Won’t Get This Independence Day
Louise Perry
Reactionary feminist, columnist for the Wall Street Journal Free Expression section, author of The Case Against the Sexual Revolution
Wall Street Journal
Episode: Is it Time for a New Sexual Revolution?
JD Vance
Vice President of the United States, political leader featured in the discussion
White House (Administration)
Episode: JD Vance on the Morality of the Trump Administration
Christian Angermayer
Entrepreneur and investor focusing on biotech, longevity, and psychedelics
Various biotech and pharma portfolio companies
Episode: Better Sex, Better Hair, Better Sleep: ‘Humanmaxxing’ Is Here
Anna Paulina Luna
Representative, Florida
U.S. House of Representatives
Episode: Anna Paulina Luna Wants Everything Disclosed
Chris Brose
President and Chief Strategy Officer at Anduril
Anduril
Episode: Our Military Is Built for the Wrong Century

Host

Ross Douthat
Host of Interesting Times; frequent moderator and interviewer known for probing questions and thoughtful engagement with a diverse set of guests.

Reviews

4.0 out of 5 stars from 11.1k ratings
  • Baskhar and Rod

    Astounding guests! I love when this show interviews normal people and not psycho far right wingers who got popular online. I hope that Ross continues to host more guests who are complex and interesting without being so inflammatory.

    Someone I’d love to see interviewed is Tony Chamas from 1Dime Radio: a conservative-leaning Christopher Lasch socialist. Can answer the question you asked Baskhar of whether socialists can accept, or even incorporate, cultural moderation into its platform. I used to... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Socialist alternative
    United States20 days ago
  • The polarized reviews are a feature not a bug

    If you look up the reviews for Interesting Times, you’ll find they are highly polarized. For some, that might be a red flag, but for me, it’s one of the reasons I queue it up every Thursday morning.

    In a media landscape where everyone is expected to pick a team, or take on some outlandish conspiratorial take, Ross is a rare voice. He consistently offends both the dogmatic left and the dogmatic MAGA crowd because he is willing to stand on principle rather than chasing cultural fads or political ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    James.Alexander
    United States21 days ago
  • Contrary Opinions

    I am decidedly not a fan of Ross’s Op Eds. Frequently haranguing and for a time Trump apologia. But after listed to dozens of this podcast, I think he is a great interviewer who gets interesting guests to discuss nuanced issues.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Philip1085
    United Statesa month ago
  • Expected more from the Times

    I really did try, but this is just so poorly done. Journalistically it is complete rubbish - even as op ed, it is overly reliant on anecdotal data. If you’re interested in some random people talking about their experiences then I suppose this is fine. If you’re looking for anything with a little more heft I would not recommend.

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    Scb78$
    United Statesa month ago
  • Love Ross

    I’m always impressed and entertained hearing Ross navigate these interactions so naturally. Side note: After listening to Rod Dreher I’ve decided he should have had a cameo around the supper table at the end of Don’t Look Up.”

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    decimalsandmore
    United Statesa month ago

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Listeners appreciate thoughtful, civil discourse and a wide range of expert guests.
A few reviews express frustration with perceived prescriptiveness or niche topics.

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Talking Points

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Iran, China, Canada? A Defense of Trump’s Grand Strategy
Q: How should Europe and other allies respond to these shifts?
Colby contends that allies must take greater responsibility, expand defense spending, and participate in a rebalanced NATO 3.0 framework, with the U.S. encouraging practical partnerships and avoiding blind dependence on American leadership.
A Vision of a ‘Society Without Capitalism’
Q: Can democratic socialism be compatible with capitalism in the short term?
Yes, in the short term, democratic socialism can operate within capitalism to achieve reforms (like housing, healthcare, and labor rights) while pursuing a longer-term goal of a society beyond capitalism, where workers have greater control over production.
A Vision of a ‘Society Without Capitalism’
Q: What would a socialist contract with America look like?
A socialist contract would likely emphasize a Bill of Rights-style social democracy with decommodified healthcare and social security, significant welfare expansion, strong unions, and a pathway to worker-controlled enterprises, all within a framework that acknowledges capital constraints and uses market mechanisms where appropriate.
JD Vance on the Morality of the Trump Administration
Q: What is Christian about the second Trump administration?
The administration argues it has pursued pro-family policies, sought to rebuild middle-class wages, and implemented a framework that aligns aid and policy with the elected government's priorities, while acknowledging areas where Christian values inform conduct but recognizing political realities.
Our Military Is Built for the Wrong Century
Q: What are the current constraints on what the Pentagon allows a drone or autonomous weapon to do without a human deciding?
The policy is broad and evolving; it does not categorically ban automation of the kill chain, but it imposes a high burden of testing, reliability, and contextual governance to ensure actions are ethically constrained and less prone to catastrophic errors.

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