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The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New Yor... more

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The future of high-tech warfare has arrived. Just look to the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran to see how much drones and robots have remade the modern battlefield. Is the U.S. positioned to win wars in this new era? What are the ethical constraints of ... more

What’s really driving the humanities crisis in higher education? As enrollment and reading decline, I asked Jennifer Frey, a professor of philosophy, what it was like to run a liberal arts program that was gutted. I wanted to know whether she thinks ... more

The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War atmosphere, with people talking about an A.I. arms... more

A stalemated war. Fractured alliances. A rival waiting in the wings. It feels to me that we’re having an “end of the American empire” moment. My guest this week, Ray Dalio, is an unlikely prophet of doom — the billionaire Bridgewater investor conquer... more

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Recent Guests

Chris Brose
President and Chief Strategy Officer at Anduril
Anduril
Episode: Our Military Is Built for the Wrong Century
Jennifer Frey
Philosopher, Professor of Liberal Arts/Philosophy
University of Tulsa (former Dean of Honors)
Episode: A Defense of a Liberal Arts Education in the Age of A.I.
Kyle Chan
Expert on China and AI
Episode: China's Not the Problem. We Are.
Ray Dalio
Founder of Bridgewater Associates, investor and author
Bridgewater Associates
Episode: A Legendary Investor on How to Prevent America’s Coming ‘Heart Attack’
Andrew Miller
Writer on transportation policy, co-author of The End of Driving
Changing Lanes (Sub-stack)
Episode: Why Are We Still Driving?
Anthony Pompliano
Crypto investor and advocate, guest on the episode
Pomp Investments / crypto advocate
Episode: A Bitcoin Evangelist Tries to Convert Me
Sarah Isgur
conservative court watcher, lawyer, author
Last Branch Standing
Episode: Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Ben Sasse
Former U.S. Senator, President of University of Florida (at time of interview)
University of Florida; U.S. Senate
Episode: How Ben Sasse Is Living Now That He Is Dying
Bart Ehrman
New Testament scholar, author of Love Thy Stranger
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill (historical Jesus research)
Episode: Did Jesus Rise From the Dead? A Debate.

Host

Ross Douthat
Host of Interesting Times; frequent moderator and interviewer known for probing questions and thoughtful engagement with a diverse set of guests.

Reviews

4.0 out of 5 stars from 11k ratings
  • too much interruptions by host

    in the episode with Ray Dalio, just let the guest finish his thoughts. So many times before he could get to his point, he got interrupted and redirected, kind of frustrating.

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    lifjichkmvfi
    United Statesa month ago
  • Let the robot drive, and you take a bike instead — see if it helps your motor skills.

    Why don’t you get on a bike to get over your car-mobility needs instead? You are so backwards it's difficult to believe on the NYT.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Fb.bbbfff
    Canadaa month ago
  • Ray Dalia Interview

    This is an interesting podcast but it’s beyond frustrating to hear the interviewer constantly interupt the guest. I mean, when the guest has to repeatedly ask the interviewer to let him finish speaking maybe that should tell you something.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Neza62
    United Statesa month ago
  • As An Independent, I endorse

    I consider myself probably center to center left, it’s a great podcast with a free flowing discussion with actual great points. Some of the reviews are crazy. In a world full of conservative lunatics, Ross is the bad guy?! C’mon.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    brianbuck13
    United Statesa month ago
  • Liberals: first one’s free!

    I don’t like Ross. I find his columns pompous and sophistic. For years, I avoided them to deny him the clicks. Then he started a podcast, which I didn’t listen to, until he had a guest I wanted to hear. I was surprised by his open-heartedness and fair interview style. Now, I listen to the podcasts the day they come out. I think his personality is leavened by his guests. He’s not as tendentious as you think he’ll be. Maybe one of these years I’ll click on a column. Maybe. But try the podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hrshihgdwchjtdsgjj
    United Statesa month ago

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Many reviews highlight depth, civics-forward discussions, and well-sourced context.
Listeners appreciate thoughtful, civil discourse and a wide range of expert guests.
A few reviews express frustration with perceived prescriptiveness or niche topics.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Our Military Is Built for the Wrong Century
Q: What are the current constraints on what the Pentagon allows a drone or autonomous weapon to do without a human deciding?
The policy is broad and evolving; it does not categorically ban automation of the kill chain, but it imposes a high burden of testing, reliability, and contextual governance to ensure actions are ethically constrained and less prone to catastrophic errors.
Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: What is the core liability issue and why is it a hurdle to adoption?
Liability is a major obstacle because regulators expect a high standard of safety; firms need clear, enforceable rules so that incidents don't bankrupt innovation, while players like Waymo and Tesla navigate differing liability approaches and public scrutiny.
Why Are We Still Driving?
Q: Sales pitch for self-driving cars—what would be good about a self-driving future?
Andrew Miller argues that eliminating driver error could drastically reduce fatalities, free hundreds of millions of hours for other activities, and unlock time and attention for individuals, with safety improving as sensing tech and AI mature.
Trump Is the End of a 100-Year Experiment
Q: What did you see as the main constraint on President Trump's use of executive power?
The main constraint has consistently been the courts, especially the Supreme Court, which has checked or blocked Trump's executive orders and initiatives when they encroach on Congress's prerogatives or constitutionally defined powers.
How Far Will Trump Go in Iran?
Q: What would phase two and phase three look like if negotiations occur?
Phase two would continue degrading Iranian power with support to the opposition and potential continuation of Israeli actions with U.S. backing; phase three would intensify support to the Iranian people, to enable a mass street movement that could bring down the regime, including possible U.S. and allied weapons support if necessary.

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