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The Pragmatic Engineer

Gergely Orosz
Software Engineering
Google
Developer Productivity
AI Tools
Engineering Culture
Artificial Intelligence
AI Engineering
Github
Rust
Copilot
AI Impact
Software Development
Openai
Amazon
Microsoft
Sourcegraph
Thronefall
Vibe Coding
Non-Deterministic Systems
Machine Learning

Software engineering at Big Tech and startups, from the inside. Deepdives with experienced engineers and tech professionals who share their hard-earned lessons, interesting stories and advice they have on building software. Especially relevant for software engineers and engineering leaders: useful for those working in tech. newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com

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Recent Guests

Titus Winters
Senior Principal Scientist at Adobe, former Google engineer and lead author of Software Engineering at Google
Adobe
Episode: Software engineering at Google & CS education with Titus Winters
Will Larson
CTO of Imprint and author of books on engineering leadership
Imprint
Episode: The revised rules of engineering management with Will Larson
Uday Kiran Medisetty
Distinguished Engineer at Uber leading work on agentic AI and developer platforms
Uber
Episode: Uber’s AI infra, from the inside
Sam Newman
Author and engineer focused on resilient distributed systems and microservices
Independent consultant/author
Episode: Building resilient systems with Sam Newman
Peter Mattis
Co-founder and CTO of Cockroach Labs
Cockroach Labs
Episode: Distributed databases with Peter Mattis
Maggie Appleton
Design engineer and illustrator with experience at multiple tech startups and GitHub Next
GitHub Next
Episode: Design Engineering with Maggie Appleton
Matt Pocock
Developer turned educator, known for Total TypeScript and AI skills education
Independent educator/author
Episode: AI Skills with Matt Pocock
Tibo Sottiaux
Led the Codex team at OpenAI; pivotal in starting Codex and its open-source strategy
OpenAI
Episode: Building Codex with Tibo Sottiaux
Casey Muratori
Software engineer and educator behind Molly Rocket; former game industry veteran with extensive hands-on experience in tooling, optimization, and education.
Molly Rocket
Episode: Why performant code matters (but gets widely ignored), with Casey Muratori

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 1.1k ratings
  • My favourite

    I listen to a handful of podcasts about software and this is top notch. Great work! thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    franciscolopezsancho
    United Kingdom5 months ago
  • My daily walking companion

    Fantastic show! Great guest list and thoughtful questions

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Vish Hegde
    Ireland6 months ago
  • The BEST for SWEs

    I enjoy this podcast so much! Gergely is such a good podcaster and has had amazing guests on his podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    boogutron
    United States8 months ago
  • All-timer incoming

    Started good, it’s getting great. Incredible guests, host gets out of their way, sets them up with fantastic questions. Required listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bananafish86
    Germany9 months ago
  • Inspiring and Practical for Software Engineers

    The Pragmatic Engineer podcast is one of my favorite resources for growing as a programmer. It consistently introduces me to interesting people to follow, newsletters to subscribe to, and books worth reading. The conversations are thoughtful, inspiring, and genuinely interesting, and I always come away with new ideas and perspectives I can apply to my own career. Highly recommended for anyone serious about software engineering.

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    Jordy1984
    United States10 months ago

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The host asks thoughtful questions and brings out practical insights.
The show balances theory with actionable guidance for engineers and leaders.
Guests consistently deliver deep, technical value with clear takeaways.

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#39
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#46
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Software engineering at Google & CS education with Titus Winters
Q: What should new graduates focus on to succeed in software engineering as AI tools become common?
Winters advises them not to rely on AI to produce all their work, to take responsibility for the code they submit, and to build deep expertise in a domain they genuinely care about. Distinctive projects and interests can help them stand out.
Software engineering at Google & CS education with Titus Winters
Q: What does Titus Winters think should change in computer science education as AI changes software work?
He argues that programs should prioritize fluent programming, systems thinking, design specifications, testing and verification, teamwork, and practical projects. Students should be assessed on their process, including prompts and tests, rather than only on the code they submit.
The revised rules of engineering management with Will Larson
Q: What tactics would you suggest to engineering leaders who have spent time in middle management and are unsure what career path is possible?
Larson recommends considering a return to hands-on technical work or line management, including a lateral or backward move. He says this can build relevant skills and that leaders should make their willingness to take such roles clear to prospective employers.
The revised rules of engineering management with Will Larson
Q: What does a CTO do as an engineer, and how has that role changed, especially with AI?
Larson says CTOs should combine technical leadership with management, and that they are increasingly expected to work in technical detail. At Imprint he has made hundreds of production pull requests and has both individual contributors and managers reporting to him.
Uber’s AI infra, from the inside
Q: How does Uber think about engineering productivity as AI changes software development?
The company is moving beyond code throughput to assess feature velocity, developer experience, code quality, and how work is distributed across features, bug fixes, maintenance, testing, and documentation. It uses AI to connect project records and estimate end-to-end feature cycle times, while identifying where delivery is bottlenecked.

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