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The Pragmatic Engineer

Gergely Orosz
Software Engineering
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Software engineering at Big Tech and startups, from the inside. Deepdives with experienced engineers and tech professionals who share their hard-earned lessons, interesting stories and advice they have on building software. Especially relevant for software engineers and engineering leaders: useful for those working in tech. newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com

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Recent Guests

Rob Erez
CI/CD expert with a decade+ in the field
Octopus Deploy (former), Skype for Web
Episode: CI/CD with Robert Erez
Kelsey Hightower
Distinguished engineer, Kubernetes pioneer, and tech leader
Google Cloud (at time of interview)
Episode: Kubernetes and retiring at the top with Kelsey Hightower
Dax Raad
Co-founder of OpenCode, AI engineering harness creator
OpenCode
Episode: Building OpenCode with Dax Raad
Alice Ryhl
Software engineer on Google's Android Rust team; core maintainer of Tokio; Rust language team advisor
Google
Episode: Why Rust is different, with Alice Ryhl
Anders Hejlsberg
Creator of Turbo Pascal, Delphi, C#, and TypeScript
Microsoft (formerly) / Borland (historical)
Episode: TypeScript, C# and Turbo Pascal with Anders Hejlsberg
Mario Zechner
Creator of Pi, self-modifying coding agent
Pi project / Open-source community
Episode: Building Pi, and what makes self-modifying software so fascinating
Armin Ronacher
Creator of Flask, early adopter and contributor to Pi
Pi project / Open-source community
Episode: Building Pi, and what makes self-modifying software so fascinating
Martin Kleppmann
Author of Designing Data-Intensive Applications
Author/Researcher
Episode: Designing Data-intensive Applications with Martin Kleppmann
David Heinemeier Hansson
Creator of Ruby on Rails, Omarchy, co-founder of 37signals
37signals / Omarchy / Ruby on Rails
Episode: DHH’s new way of writing code

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Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 971 ratings
  • My favourite

    I listen to a handful of podcasts about software and this is top notch. Great work! thanks!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    franciscolopezsancho
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • My daily walking companion

    Fantastic show! Great guest list and thoughtful questions

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Vish Hegde
    Ireland2 months ago
  • The BEST for SWEs

    I enjoy this podcast so much! Gergely is such a good podcaster and has had amazing guests on his podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    boogutron
    United States4 months ago
  • All-timer incoming

    Started good, it’s getting great. Incredible guests, host gets out of their way, sets them up with fantastic questions. Required listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bananafish86
    Germany5 months ago
  • Inspiring and Practical for Software Engineers

    The Pragmatic Engineer podcast is one of my favorite resources for growing as a programmer. It consistently introduces me to interesting people to follow, newsletters to subscribe to, and books worth reading. The conversations are thoughtful, inspiring, and genuinely interesting, and I always come away with new ideas and perspectives I can apply to my own career. Highly recommended for anyone serious about software engineering.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Jordy1984
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Very actionable insights for career growth and tech strategy.
Professional, in-depth talks with practical takeaways for engineers.
Strong guest roaster and interview style that gets out of the way.
Listeners appreciate thoughtful questions and high signal content.
Excellent resource for staying current on engineering leadership and tooling trends.

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Tech interviews with NeetCode
Q: What do data structures and algorithms interviews actually teach that is useful on the job beyond the algorithms themselves?
They train you to think clearly about problems, communicate your approach, and articulate trade-offs, which translates to better collaboration and plan-making on real projects.
How Kent Beck shapes the software engineering industry
Q: What was the impact of the Agile Manifesto and how did you perceive its long-term effects?
The manifesto created instant excitement and a shared language, but Beck cautions that the true value comes from technical foundations and disciplined practice beyond the manifesto text; the market later broadened into large-scale, sometimes snake-oil-adjacent applications.
How Kent Beck shapes the software engineering industry
Q: How did TDD evolve from earlier ideas to become a widely adopted practice?
TDD emerged as a rediscovery of earlier concepts, refined through experiments at Tektronix and Masspar, leading to SUnit and the later spread to JUnit through collaboration with Eric Gamma; it became a practical bridge between design and testing.
How Kent Beck shapes the software engineering industry
Q: When did XP start to gain real traction and how did that relate to the timing of the XP book and talks?
XP gained momentum during the late 1990s as teams needed a balanced approach between disciplined software process and rapid delivery; Beck notes early talks and then the increased interest around the dot-com era, aided by the XP book later.
Why Rust is different, with Alice Ryhl
Q: Why is Rust getting so popular?
The guest discusses Rust's lack of a garbage collector, memory safety, explicit error handling with the Result type and the ? operator, and strong compile-time guarantees as core advantages over languages with runtime or weaker safety guarantees.

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