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The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro

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Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ www.lsuite.co/

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A&P are joined by Marty Gomez from Goodwin to chat AI Innovation. Marty is a partner in the Technology and Life Sciences practice areas where he co-leads the MedTech and Artificial Intelligence groups. Marty is squarely in the sights of AI developmen... more

Pedro and Andy are joined by Tony Ficarotta, the General Counsel of The Network Advertising Initiative, a leading AdTech Industry Association aiming to assist companies with compliance and policy issues. Tony has a deep data privacy background paired... more

The guys welcome Chris LoRusso, Chief Business Officer @ OpenAP to discuss the future of AI in the advertising space. The discussion also covers data use at scale, capital funding AI, tradeoffs and data use

Andy and Pedro discuss the comments by the Pope, Anthropic and various thinkers on AI's purpose, meaning, regulation and place in life now and in the future.

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Recent Guests

Tony Ficarotta
General Counsel of the Network Advertising Initiative (NAI)
Network Advertising Initiative (NAI)
Episode: "Watch Out For Falling Trees"
Chris LoRusso
Chief Business Officer, OpenAP; PhD in Information Management with focus on AI and advertising
OpenAP
Episode: "The Data Center In My Backyard"
Michael Dolan
Chief Privacy Officer at Best Buy
Best Buy
Episode: "The Dormant Commerce Clause and the Central Hudson Test"
Shri Bhupathi
CEO and founder of Mill5, expert in AI/ML and cloud
Mill5
Episode: "Agentic Bros"
Ben Chapman
General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at Swoop
Swoop
Episode: "The Robot Butler is Asleep in the Garage" w/ Ben Chapman
Gary Kibel
Partner at Davis & Gilbert
Davis & Gilbert
Episode: "So Many Ways to Lose" w/ Gary Kibel
Kristin Jones
Chief Privacy Officer at Ford
Ford
Episode: "The CPO Who Drives a '56 Thunderbird" w/ Kristin Jones
Rebecca MacVittie
General Counsel at Newstore, formerly a prosecutor with extensive experience in the legal and e-commerce sector
Newstore
Episode: "Not Everyone needs a Rolls Royce" w/ Rebecca MacVittie
Keir Lamont
Responsible for tracking state privacy laws at FPF
Future of Privacy Forum
Episode: "The Patchwork" w/ Keir Lamont

Hosts

Andy Dale
Host of The Data Protection Breakfast Club; OpenAP and General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer responsibilities
Pedro Pavón
Privacy & Data Policy; host focusing on policy and governance with a background at Meta

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 37 ratings
  • Refreshing takes that anyone can get value from

    Even without being in the privacy sphere, Andy and Pedro bring on interesting guests week after week and talk about the AdTech’s most pressing issues. Anyone can learn something from this show

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chamspion
    United States6 years ago
  • Great conversations at the intersection of technology, data, and privacy

    Andy and Pedro make great conversation and do a good job of bringing out insights from some smart people thinking about how companies are or should be using data and technology. The subject may seem a little stiff, but the conversations are not.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    baltassoc
    United States6 years ago
  • The best!

    Love this podcast series. Who knew you can talk privacy and laugh a lot.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    llama and dragons yay love it
    United States6 years ago

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Insightful take on privacy at the intersection of tech and law, with practical industry examples.
Guests bring thoughtful perspectives on AI governance and data policies.

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"Watch Out For Falling Trees"
Q: How do you define independent ad tech versus large platforms, and why does that distinction matter to the NAI?
Independent ad tech refers to small- to mid-sized technology service providers that collaborate with multiple advertisers and publishers without controlling their own ad inventory. This distinction matters because independent players need clarified rules, practical guidance, and a seat at the policy table to ensure regulations don't disproportionately disadvantage smaller firms and to maintain a healthy, competitive marketplace.
"Watch Out For Falling Trees"
Q: Can you catch people up on both what you do and where the NAI is now?
We've evolved from a self-regulatory body to a policy-facing organization that engages regulators, educates policymakers, and provides practical guidance to members. Our focus is to help independent AdTech navigate dozens of state laws and shifting priorities while maintaining a privacy-first stance.
"Agentic Bros"
Q: Can you talk about the genesis of Mill5 and how you approached cloud transformation and AI originally?
Shri explains that Mill5 started from a practical need to streamline data streaming and decision-making for hedge funds and IoT across industries, focusing on scalable, dependable cloud-based analytics and edge processing rather than renting third-party hardware. This evolved from a finance-centric start to broader industrial, medical, and IoT applications as cloud capabilities and AI matured.
"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko
Q: What is TrustArc today and what got you excited about going there?
Val explained that TrustArc is a pioneer privacy technology company that offers comprehensive privacy solutions and he was excited about the strategic technological aspect of the role.
"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko
Q: How did it feel when you stepped in and you were the one in charge of legal for the first time?
Val shared that he felt nervous about being in a GC role but learned that his main responsibility was to help and support the team.

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The show centers on privacy, data protection, and the evolving regulatory and technology landscape, with frequent dives into AI governance, data governance, and the societal impact of automation. Episodes typically feature conversations with senior privacy, legal, and policy leaders from large consumer-facing organizations and technology companies, plus thoughtful discussions on how law, policy, and technology intersect in areas like advertising, automotive data, robotics, and cloud computing. The format blends practical industry case studies with broader debates about regulation speed, corporate responsibility, and governance, making it useful for listeners who design privacy programs, shape policy, or sponsor privacy-forward content. A no... more

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