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The Data Protection Breakfast Club with Andy & Pedro

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Frank conversations with GCs, CPOs, Product and Policy Leaders around navigating the technology ecosystem, hosted by Andy Dale, General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at OpenAP and Pedro Pavón, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta. The Data Protection Breakfast Club is produced by L Suite, an executive peer community for CLOs & GCs to make better, faster decisions. Learn more @ www.lsuite.co/

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Michael Dolan the CPO @ Best Buy, has had a career spanning privacy, cybersecurity, public policy and risk management more generally. He has worked in legal counsel and executive roles at some of the most complex businesses in the US with challenging... more

Shri Bhupathi, CEO/Co-Founder of Mill5 in Boston joins Andy and Pedro for a discussion about Agentic AI and its future impact on the economy, tech companies, data governance and scaling.

The guys have an existential chat about Robots!

The guys welcome Ben Chapman the GC/CPO @ Swoop a fast growing provider of data used by companies large and small for pharma ad campaigns. Its a tricky space to navigate but Ben and Swoop are doing so in a very thoughtful, clear way.

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Michael Dolan
Chief Privacy Officer at Best Buy
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Episode: "The Dormant Commerce Clause and the Central Hudson Test"
Shri Bhupathi
CEO and founder of Mill5, expert in AI/ML and cloud
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Episode: "Agentic Bros"
Ben Chapman
General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer at Swoop
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Episode: "The Robot Butler is Asleep in the Garage" w/ Ben Chapman
Gary Kibel
Partner at Davis & Gilbert
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Episode: "So Many Ways to Lose" w/ Gary Kibel
Kristin Jones
Chief Privacy Officer at Ford
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Episode: "The CPO Who Drives a '56 Thunderbird" w/ Kristin Jones
Rebecca MacVittie
General Counsel at Newstore, formerly a prosecutor with extensive experience in the legal and e-commerce sector
Newstore
Episode: "Not Everyone needs a Rolls Royce" w/ Rebecca MacVittie
Keir Lamont
Responsible for tracking state privacy laws at FPF
Future of Privacy Forum
Episode: "The Patchwork" w/ Keir Lamont
Julia Shullman
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Episode: "Shout Out to the Cable Companies for Being Patient" w/ Julia Shullman
Chris Sands
Expert in legal recruitment and former CMO of TechGC
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Episode: "Wolves on Steroids" w/ Chris Sands

Hosts

Andy Dale
Host of The Data Protection Breakfast Club, OpenAP (General Counsel & Chief Privacy Officer)
Pedro Pavón
Host of The Data Protection Breakfast Club, Privacy & Data Policy at Meta (former General Counsel & CPO at Swoop)

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 37 ratings
  • Refreshing takes that anyone can get value from

    Even without being in the privacy sphere, Andy and Pedro bring on interesting guests week after week and talk about the AdTech’s most pressing issues. Anyone can learn something from this show

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chamspion
    United States5 years ago
  • Great conversations at the intersection of technology, data, and privacy

    Andy and Pedro make great conversation and do a good job of bringing out insights from some smart people thinking about how companies are or should be using data and technology. The subject may seem a little stiff, but the conversations are not.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    baltassoc
    United States5 years ago
  • The best!

    Love this podcast series. Who knew you can talk privacy and laugh a lot.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    llama and dragons yay love it
    United States5 years ago

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Great depth on privacy and AI governance from leading practitioners.
Engaging discussions even when topics get technical or policy-heavy.

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"Agentic Bros"
Q: Can you talk about the genesis of Mill5 and how you approached cloud transformation and AI originally?
Shri explains that Mill5 started from a practical need to streamline data streaming and decision-making for hedge funds and IoT across industries, focusing on scalable, dependable cloud-based analytics and edge processing rather than renting third-party hardware. This evolved from a finance-centric start to broader industrial, medical, and IoT applications as cloud capabilities and AI matured.
"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko
Q: What is TrustArc today and what got you excited about going there?
Val explained that TrustArc is a pioneer privacy technology company that offers comprehensive privacy solutions and he was excited about the strategic technological aspect of the role.
"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko
Q: How did it feel when you stepped in and you were the one in charge of legal for the first time?
Val shared that he felt nervous about being in a GC role but learned that his main responsibility was to help and support the team.
"M&A, IPOs and Commander's Palace" w/ Kathleen Patton
Q: What was it like to get Demandware ready for being a public company?
It was a lot of work, focusing on public company compliance, setting up reporting, and maintaining governance.
"The Best Dressed Guest" w/ Simon McDougall, Chief Compliance Officer @ ZoomInfo and former ICO Deputy Commissioner
Q: Can you say a little more about what you learned from gathering the group of regulators together in the EU?
It was hard to even find all the regulators because no one had a list of them; there are about 90 different regulators without a centralized definition.

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This series centers on privacy, data policy, and the evolving regulatory landscape as it intersects with technology, advertising, and retail. Guests range from chief privacy officers and general counsels to policy leaders, discussing practical privacy governance, AI governance, data minimization, and the balance between consumer trust and targeted commerce. Conversations often thread through real-world industry challenges, regulatory responses in the EU and US, and the ethics of AI-enabled processes, with a preference for actionable takeaways for in-house teams and tech-focused brands. A notable strength is the host duo's ability to translate complex legal and policy concepts into accessible, business-relevant insights, often anchored by pr... more

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