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An irreverent podcast about the law from Josh Barro and Ken White. www.serioustrouble.show

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David Lat joins Josh Barro for a conversation about the state of the legal industry under Donald Trump — how Big Law and the legal industry are faring after those executive orders and settlements — and they talk about how AI is changing the work of l... more

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The U.S. Attorney’s office in Chicago has dismissed another high-profile case — this one a COVID fraud case — that had been led by AUSA Sheri Mecklenburg. We discu... more

This week: the grand jury transcripts from the Broadview Six case show an array of embarrassing misconduct by AUSAs from the office of the US Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois. As Ken describes, these are things that AUSAs are very clear... more

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This week’s Serious Trouble comes to you live from a perch overlooking the soon-to-be-built Trump National Championship Golf Links at East Potomac Park by Donald J... more

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Michael Avenatti
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Andrew Fleischman
An attorney in Atlanta specializing in criminal defense and First Amendment cases often at the appellate level.
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Josh Barro
Host of Serious Trouble (often collaborates with Ken White)
Ken White
Co-host known for legal analysis and clear explanations of complex issues

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 690 ratings
  • Can AI eliminate Barro?

    Great podcast - except when Barro opens his idiot mouth.

    Wondering if someone can use use AI (yes, it would be worth ruining the world) to cut Barro’s voice and just run Ken’s insightful and amusing comments. Barro adds nothing and frequently gets in the way. Interrupts unnecessarily and “clarifies” just to hear his own voice.

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    Dick Dietz
    United Statesa month ago
  • reiterating - this show has ONE good commenter

    i appreciate ken’s analysis, but **josh is a terrible moderator/host**, and it’s unfortunate because he leads the discussions. if ken found another partner, likely 5 stars, but josh is an albatross around his neck. it’s maddening. ken, please fly be free of this less than mediocre man. he is a millstone holding you down.

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    3
    mrskrabapple
    United States4 months ago
  • I have come to accept that this is my favorite podcast

    In the 50+ years of my life, there has been little to no indication that I’ve ever had an interest in legal affairs, legal theory or in-the-weeds legal analysis. Yet somehow, of the 300+ podcasts I have subscribed to in the last 15 years, this is the one I rearrange my day around when a new episode drops. It’s a truth I have to come to terms with, that the way breaking news and current affairs appear through a legal lens is somehow more interesting to me, and that the dynamic between Josh and Ke... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    wayz
    United States6 months ago
  • Informative and entertaining

    I started listening to this one when Ken stopped posting on Popehat. Very entertaining and interesting show.

    I wish there was something any of us could do about the problems they discuss on the show though

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    supra supremacy
    United States6 months ago
  • Boycott Barro

    The PopeHat, Ken White, is superb. Listen to The PopeHat and you will learn about the law and the legal system. Josh Barro is pundit manure. Barrow is the Megan McArdle of John P Normansons. Do not buy a subscription. Refuse to give Barro a ruble. Or a shekel. Never reward Barro. Were it not for his parents, that guy would be moving boxes at an Amazon warehouse.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Peter Guillam
    United States7 months ago

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Court Therapy
Q: What should Julie Lee do ethically in her position?
Even if your client is the government, you have ethical obligations to your client and can withdraw representation under certain ethical conditions.
Federal Censorship Commission
Q: Could you have grounds to sue if a television station owner didn't want to take Kimmel off the air?
You might have grounds to sue if the government jawboning impaired your First Amendment rights.
Federal Censorship Commission
Q: So is Brendan Carr violating the First Amendment?
Yes, I think it's pretty clear that Brendan Carr is violating the First Amendment.
Venue and Jurisdiction
Q: Is this setting up eventually for Supreme Court decisions on certain things, including what the real scope of the Secretary of State's power is here to revoke student visas?
Yes, it's setting up for Supreme Court review of multiple issues including venue and the executive's power over immigration.
Venue and Jurisdiction
Q: Can the government immediately appeal that, or if the judge decides that they're going to keep the case, does the judge basically get to keep the case?
The jurisdictional question can always be appealed. The government is big on emergency appeals, but so far, they have not been successful.

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A sharp, legally informed take on current events, focusing on civil and criminal cases, government power, and media coverage. Two hosts dissect high-profile disputes with rigorous analysis, witty banter, and a critical eye toward procedural fairness and public accountability. The show frequently explores how courts handle defamation, press rights, and executive action, often weaving in broader implications for policy and society. Noteworthy is the duo's ability to make complex legal concepts accessible and timely, attracting listeners who want thoughtful, no-nonsense legal commentary with cultural and political context.

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