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An irreverent podcast about the law from Josh Barro and Ken White. www.serioustrouble.show

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Most federal prosecutors win almost all the time, in part because they are careful about the cases they bring and in part because they’re good at their jobs. Latel... more

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Like some of the big law firms, Disney hoped to buy peace with the Trump administration through a bogus settlement. It didn’t work. Disney is now suing the FCC, sa... more

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The Tate brothers want bail pending their extradition proceedings to the United Kingdom, which is a long shot, not just because their social media is full of state... more

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This week: Jeanine Pirro would like everyone to know this embarrassing turn in the reflecting pool case is all Interior Secretary Doug Burgum’s fault. We talk abou... more

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Recent Guests

David Lat
Writer and legal commentator; founder of Above the Law; author of Original Jurisdiction newsletter and podcast; maintains Lat's law firm pronunciation guide
Above the Law / Original Jurisdiction
Episode: At Least the Fancy Lawyers Are Still Getting Rich
Andrew Fleischman
A defense attorney practicing in Fulton County
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Former attorney known for representing Stormy Daniels in her legal battles against Donald Trump
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Ken White
Host of Serious Trouble
Josh Barro
Co-host of Serious Trouble

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 696 ratings
  • Can AI eliminate Barro?

    Great podcast - except when Barro opens his idiot mouth.

    Wondering if someone can use use AI (yes, it would be worth ruining the world) to cut Barro’s voice and just run Ken’s insightful and amusing comments. Barro adds nothing and frequently gets in the way. Interrupts unnecessarily and “clarifies” just to hear his own voice.

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    3
    Dick Dietz
    United States3 months ago
  • reiterating - this show has ONE good commenter

    i appreciate ken’s analysis, but **josh is a terrible moderator/host**, and it’s unfortunate because he leads the discussions. if ken found another partner, likely 5 stars, but josh is an albatross around his neck. it’s maddening. ken, please fly be free of this less than mediocre man. he is a millstone holding you down.

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    3
    mrskrabapple
    United States6 months ago
  • I have come to accept that this is my favorite podcast

    In the 50+ years of my life, there has been little to no indication that I’ve ever had an interest in legal affairs, legal theory or in-the-weeds legal analysis. Yet somehow, of the 300+ podcasts I have subscribed to in the last 15 years, this is the one I rearrange my day around when a new episode drops. It’s a truth I have to come to terms with, that the way breaking news and current affairs appear through a legal lens is somehow more interesting to me, and that the dynamic between Josh and Ke... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    wayz
    United States8 months ago
  • Informative and entertaining

    I started listening to this one when Ken stopped posting on Popehat. Very entertaining and interesting show.

    I wish there was something any of us could do about the problems they discuss on the show though

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    supra supremacy
    United States9 months ago
  • Boycott Barro

    The PopeHat, Ken White, is superb. Listen to The PopeHat and you will learn about the law and the legal system. Josh Barro is pundit manure. Barrow is the Megan McArdle of John P Normansons. Do not buy a subscription. Refuse to give Barro a ruble. Or a shekel. Never reward Barro. Were it not for his parents, that guy would be moving boxes at an Amazon warehouse.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Peter Guillam
    United States9 months ago

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Fans value nuanced takes on politics and law, delivered with wit.

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Court Therapy
Q: What should Julie Lee do ethically in her position?
Even if your client is the government, you have ethical obligations to your client and can withdraw representation under certain ethical conditions.
Federal Censorship Commission
Q: Could you have grounds to sue if a television station owner didn't want to take Kimmel off the air?
You might have grounds to sue if the government jawboning impaired your First Amendment rights.
Federal Censorship Commission
Q: So is Brendan Carr violating the First Amendment?
Yes, I think it's pretty clear that Brendan Carr is violating the First Amendment.
Venue and Jurisdiction
Q: Is this setting up eventually for Supreme Court decisions on certain things, including what the real scope of the Secretary of State's power is here to revoke student visas?
Yes, it's setting up for Supreme Court review of multiple issues including venue and the executive's power over immigration.
Venue and Jurisdiction
Q: Can the government immediately appeal that, or if the judge decides that they're going to keep the case, does the judge basically get to keep the case?
The jurisdictional question can always be appealed. The government is big on emergency appeals, but so far, they have not been successful.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Serious Trouble

What is Serious Trouble about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A sharp, law-focused discussion featuring two hosts who routinely unpack high-profile legal and political happenings through a blunt, sometimes irreverent lens. Episodes routinely dissect DOJ actions, court decisions, constitutional questions, and the intersections of law with current events, often with lively disagreements between the co-hosts. The format leans into procedural explanations, clear takes on who benefits or loses in legal maneuvers, and memorable, running inside jokes. Notable strengths include accessible legal analysis grounded in real-world cases, a willingness to challenge official narratives, and a distinctive banter that appeals to listeners who want both rigor and personality. Potential listeners should expect timely, o... more

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