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The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfaremedia.org.

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Bernice Yeung
Managing Editor at UC Berkeley School of Journalism's Investigative Reporting Program
UC Berkeley
Episode: Lawfare Daily: The Rise of the Military-Technology Complex with Bernice Yeung
Dara Massicot
Senior Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Russia & Eurasia Program
Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Ukraine, Iran, Taiwan, and the Short War Illusion
Ariane Tabatabai
Vice President, Chicago Council on Global Affairs; Lawfare contributing Editor
Chicago Council on Global Affairs
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Ukraine, Iran, Taiwan, and the Short War Illusion
Jonathan Zittrain
Director of the Berkman Klein Center at Harvard Law
Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society, Harvard Law School
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Jonathan Zittrain on Controlling AI Agents
Kent Walker
President of Global Affairs at Google and Alphabet
Google/Alphabet
Episode: Scaling Laws: Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI
Colin Clarke
Senior researcher at the Soufan Center
Soufan Center
Episode: Lawfare Daily: How Our Growing Software Dependence Threatens National Security
Chad Serena
Senior researcher at the Soufan Center
Soufan Center
Episode: Lawfare Daily: How Our Growing Software Dependence Threatens National Security
Mark Leon Goldberg
Host of Global Dispatches, editor-in-chief of UN Dispatch
Global Dispatches; UN Dispatch
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Dispatches from the 2026 Aspen Security Forum
Alex Zerden
Founder of Capitol Peak Strategies; Adjunct Senior Fellow at CNAS
Capitol Peak Strategies; Center for New American Security
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Dispatches from the 2026 Aspen Security Forum

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Jacob Krauss
Co-host providing legal and policy analysis with a focus on national security and governance
Marissa Wong
Co-host and journalist/producer involved in archival and current Lawfare content
Scott R. Anderson
Host/analyst contributing geopolitical and legal insights across shows

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 7.4k ratings
  • Do they know what they’re talking about?

    The hosts cover interesting topics in politics, policy and law, but so frequently sound uncertain about what they are saying that it’s difficult to trust what they say. A little more preparation might be in order.

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    Wellsintd
    United States2 months ago
  • Pope Leo challenges Silicone Valley.

    Phenomenal show. A rare listen for a lifetime.

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    5
    sarahlertzman
    United States2 months ago
  • Cambridge Five

    I have a copy on hold for me at the public library.

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    5
    Pudelmom
    United States3 months ago
  • Two suggestions…

    Often I find myself halfway through a case’s explanation to realize I have no idea what the recent development or that day’s outcome is about. A suggestion: at the start of each case’s analysis, please state CLEARLY the particular development of a case — what the hearing about or what a ruling determined, i.e. why a case is being covered at this time — before wading into the proceeding’s particulars. Wittes usually tees things up giving an opening for a panelist to then respond. At the start of ... more

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    Elisabeth-Ann
    United States3 months ago
  • Excellent for clarity, focus and interest

    With presenters of a point of view restrainedly liberal yet an analytical approch determinately neutral, Lawfare’s terrain is a pot-pourri of varied subjects brought to us with rigor and a legalist framework (when the subject requires). A really fine show!

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    MobyDick99
    France4 months ago

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Well-researched and accessible explanations with minimal hype.
Clear, measured analysis with rigorous legal framing.

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Scaling Laws: Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI
Q: How might international coordination play into FARO, and could this model become a global standard?
The conversation suggests parallel tracks and engagement with international partners, highlighting transnational standards bodies and the potential for reciprocity with other countries, while recognizing the need for American leadership in setting broadly accessible standards.
Scaling Laws: Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI
Q: What safeguards are envisioned to prevent a regulatory regime from stifling innovation or becoming a bottleneck?
The plan emphasizes flexibility, ongoing evolution of standards, and the ability to test and validate AI systems. It argues for not locking in a single path, but enabling a spectrum of approaches that can adapt as the technology advances.
Scaling Laws: Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI
Q: Kent, how much weight is Google placing on this specific proposal and how would FARO be structured in practice?
The guest describes a two-pronged approach—a frontier framework with private sector participation and federal oversight, complemented by mechanisms for widely deployed AI. The goal is to preserve innovation while introducing adaptable, evidence-based standards rather than rigid, broad laws.
Lawfare Daily: The Rise of the Military-Technology Complex with Bernice Yeung
Q: What are the limits of how close Silicon Valley and the Pentagon can get, given concerns about safety and ethics?
There is a persistent tension between rapid innovation and the need for caution in warfare AI; many in the military favor safeguards, while some industry voices push for fewer barriers, making transparent, accountable deployment essential.
Lawfare Daily: The Rise of the Military-Technology Complex with Bernice Yeung
Q: Could you lay out the story as you see it, the story that you tried to tell?
The core arc tracks how defense spending and a long history of collaboration shaped Silicon Valley, how a cooling period gave way to a renewed relationship, and how initiatives like DIUX attempted to accelerate deals despite cultural and regulatory frictions.

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What is The Lawfare Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A rigorous, policy-forward discussion show that investigates national security, law, and governance through expert analysis and journalism. Episodes frequently cover legal frameworks, foreign policy, and security dynamics, featuring academics, policymakers, journalists, and practitioners who bring depth on topics like constitutional law, international relations, and intelligence. Notably, the show maintains a calm, analytical tone and tends to favor nuanced, evidence-based dialogue over sensationalism, making it appealing to listeners who want clear explanations of complex issues. A standout aspect is the consistent pairing of legal and policy expertise with real-world implications, often drawing on case law, regulatory debates, and current... more

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