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The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfareblog.com.

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Madiha Afzal
Fellow in the foreign policy program at the Brookings Institution
Brookings Institution
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Why Pakistan is Deporting Afghan Refugees with Madiha Afzal
Maksym Rokmaniko
An architect, designer, entrepreneur, and director at the Center for Spatial Technologies in Kyiv, Ukraine.
Center for Spatial Technologies
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Memorializing Babyn Yar after the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
Linda Kinstler
A PhD candidate in rhetoric at UC Berkeley and author of 'Come to This Court and Cry, How the Holocaust Ends'.
UC Berkeley
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Memorializing Babyn Yar after the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
Susannah Glickman
Assistant Professor of History at Stony Brook University, specializing in the political economy of computation and information.
Stony Brook University
Episode: Lawfare Daily: The Defense Tech Paradox, with Susannah Glickman
Jimmy Wales
Founder of Wikipedia and author of The Seven Rules of Trust
Wikipedia
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Wikipedia, Ref-Working, and the Battle Over Reality
Caleb Withers
Research Associate at the Center for a New American Security focusing on frontier AI and national security.
Center for a New American Security
Episode: Scaling Laws: Caleb Withers on the Cybersecurity Frontier in the Age of AI
Seth Jones
President of the Defense and Security Department of the Center for Strategic and International Studies
Center for Strategic and International Studies
Episode: Lawfare Daily: America's Defense Industrial Base
Mark Montgomery
Retired Rear Admiral and Senior Director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Grading the Trump Administration's Cybersecurity Efforts, with Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery
Chris Mirasola
Guest from the University of Houston Law Center
University of Houston
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Deploying the Military at the Southern Border, with Chris Mirasola

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Benjamin Wittes
Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare, known for his expertise in national security law.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 7.4k ratings
  • The Lindsay Chervinsky episode

    Outstanding !

    One of the best podcasts I have ever had the pleasure to listen to. There were so many wonderful nuanced nuggets of historical /constitutional gold.

    I am really looking forward to reading all of her work. Great conversation.

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    5
    Ktwbear
    United Statesa month ago
  • The recent addition of Kate Klonick

    I’ve appreciably gotten used to a certain level of professionalism among the hosts and commenters. Ms. Klonick’s repeated use of “like” and squeals and over-the-top emotional outbursts ain’t that. Could you tone it down a bit? My ears hurt…

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    3
    makeupmyname
    United States2 months ago
  • “Sweet Dreams…”

    So at least one of you thinks it’s just fine for a masked plainclothes person to snatch anyone they want off the street and do who knows what to that person because nobody knows who or what the snatcher is.

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    Rinellen
    United States3 months ago
  • My kinda analysis

    For lawyers, by lawyers. Good stuff.

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    5
    Raygorian
    United States3 months ago
  • No more “ew” factor, please.

    I’d like Ben to leave his women issues out of the podcast. He makes a point of “joking” that one episode was all men — “And NO women!” he repeated. We get it: you had a domestic spat and so now we all need to hear about it. I’ve also found it strange that Ben should regularly (and uncomfortably) flirt with a female reporter during episodes. Ew. Just stick to the facts and legal cases, please. That’s why we listen.

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    makeupmyname
    United States3 months ago

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Listeners appreciate the in-depth analysis and expert insights into complex legal and national security issues.
While most find the discussions informative, some express concerns about the tone and balance of topics, particularly regarding geopolitical narratives.
Overall, feedback highlights the show's commitment to serious dialogue in a climate of polarized opinions, making it a go-to source for legal and national security discussions.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Dec. 19
Q: Is the Richmond litigation impacting further actions against Jim Comey?
Yes, the ongoing issues related to the Richmond case are complicating the efforts to re-indict Jim Comey, as the materials from that case cannot be used in the grand jury.
Lawfare Archive: Memorializing Babyn Yar after the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
Q: Linda, for you, why write about this particular attack?
Seeing missiles land near Babyn Yar exposed the loss and meaning of the site, highlighting the manipulation of history within the context of the current war.
Lawfare Archive: Memorializing Babyn Yar after the Russian Invasion of Ukraine
Q: Maksym, why investigate this particular attack? What's its significance?
It has a strong personal connection for me as I live near Babyn Yar, a significant historical site, and our team had been investigating it prior to the war.
Lawfare Daily: Scott Anderson on How Social Media Platforms Should Handle Unrecognized Regimes
Q: So how did the different platforms, just to sort of give a preview and we'll get into all the issues as we continue the conversation, but might just be helpful to start with a sense of how in that specific case, the different platforms treated this and how in particular they may have diverged in how they treated the particular issue of the Taliban in 2021?
You saw kind of two dominant strategies emerge really early on. The majority of platforms like Facebook and Google approached it through the lens of sanctions compliance, while Twitter maintained a position that allowed account access based on conduct rather than status alone.
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Dec. 5
Q: Could time to litigate Richmond's suit make it impossible for EDVA to get an indictment simply because the six-month clock on a re-indictment will have run out?
Some factors could complicate whether they can indict within the timeline due to ongoing litigation about evidence gathering.

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2. Maksym Rokmaniko
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4. Susannah Glickman
5. Jimmy Wales
6. Caleb Withers
7. Seth Jones
8. Mark Montgomery

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