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The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast features discussions with experts, policymakers, and opinion leaders at the nexus of national security, law, and policy. On issues from foreign policy, homeland security, intelligence, and cybersecurity to governance and law, we have doubled down on seriousness at a time when others are running away from it. Visit us at www.lawfareblog.com.

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Caleb Withers
Research Associate at the Center for a New American Security focusing on frontier AI and national security.
Center for a New American Security
Episode: Scaling Laws: Caleb Withers on the Cybersecurity Frontier in the Age of AI
Seth Jones
President of the Defense and Security Department of the Center for Strategic and International Studies
Center for Strategic and International Studies
Episode: Lawfare Daily: America's Defense Industrial Base
Mark Montgomery
Retired Rear Admiral and Senior Director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation
Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Grading the Trump Administration's Cybersecurity Efforts, with Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery
Chris Mirasola
Guest from the University of Houston Law Center
University of Houston
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Deploying the Military at the Southern Border, with Chris Mirasola
Jonathan Lord
Director of the Middle East Security Program at Center for a New American Security
Center for a New American Security
Episode: Lawfare Archive: The Saudi-Iran Deal Featuring China
Emily Hoge
A scholar from Clemson University specializing in national security and political crime.
Clemson University
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Emily Hoge on Russian Mobsters at the Front
Fareed Zakaria
Anchor of CNN's GPS and author
CNN
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Revolutions and the Rule of Law
Tim Wu
Professor of Law, Science and Technology at Columbia Law School
Columbia Law School
Episode: Lawfare Daily: Tim Wu on ‘The Age of Extraction’
Michael Ramsey
Law professor at the University of San Diego
University of San Diego
Episode: Lawfare Archive: Waxman and Ramsey on Delegating War Power

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Scott R. Anderson
Senior Editor; Host of Rational Security
Benjamin Wittes
Editor-in-Chief of Lawfare

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 7.4k ratings
  • The recent addition of Kate Klonick

    I’ve appreciably gotten used to a certain level of professionalism among the hosts and commenters. Ms. Klonick’s repeated use of “like” and squeals and over-the-top emotional outbursts ain’t that. Could you tone it down a bit? My ears hurt…

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    makeupmyname
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  • “Sweet Dreams…”

    So at least one of you thinks it’s just fine for a masked plainclothes person to snatch anyone they want off the street and do who knows what to that person because nobody knows who or what the snatcher is.

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    Rinellen
    United States2 months ago
  • My kinda analysis

    For lawyers, by lawyers. Good stuff.

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    Raygorian
    United States2 months ago
  • No more “ew” factor, please.

    I’d like Ben to leave his women issues out of the podcast. He makes a point of “joking” that one episode was all men — “And NO women!” he repeated. We get it: you had a domestic spat and so now we all need to hear about it. I’ve also found it strange that Ben should regularly (and uncomfortably) flirt with a female reporter during episodes. Ew. Just stick to the facts and legal cases, please. That’s why we listen.

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    makeupmyname
    United States2 months ago
  • A voice coach. Right?

    Any chance someone could voice-coach Chris Mirasola to break his “Right?” habit? (That’s saying “Right?” every other sentence.) This verbal tic is getting more and more common these days and, while it might be an overcompensation for momentary insecurity, I find the habit super annoying (enough to fast-forward through a speaker’s comments). In the case of this panelist, voice coaching might also help his general delivery, which can be a bit hard to follow.

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Listeners appreciate the in-depth analysis of political and legal issues and commend the expertise of guests and hosts.
Overall, the podcast is noted for its educational value and serious approach to contemporary national security concerns.

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Lawfare Daily: America's Defense Industrial Base
Q: How do you think about a division of labor when it comes to friends who might be helping us with common tasks?
The U.S. should leverage its allies for shipbuilding capabilities, especially for non-sensitive assets, acknowledging that countries like Japan and South Korea can produce high-quality ships more efficiently than the U.S.
Lawfare Daily: America's Defense Industrial Base
Q: Can you explain why this is, at least potentially, such an important development when we think about the defense industrial base?
The rise of private equity and venture capital is opening new funding avenues for defense-related technologies and companies, reflecting a shift in how defense is financed, especially with increased interest from firms in innovative sectors like AI and biotech.
Lawfare Archive: AI Regulation and Free Speech: Navigating the Government’s Tightrope
Q: How does this change in the case of AI agents where that output might take the form of code or other instructions that are translated directly into actions in the real world?
It's plausible that generative AI output may not be considered speech when it comprises actions rather than human communication. Programs that execute code autonomously may fall under regulation rather than First Amendment protection.
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Nov. 21
Q: Why are you politicizing the Justice Department?
It's just too tempting.
Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Nov. 21
Q: What about the Supreme Court? Do you look at this and say, all right, this is the kind of thing that it's easy to enjoy at the district court level?
My concern is some of the arguments that the US government has been making in the other cases and starting to pull in some of those constitutional Article II authorities, and talking about this is a protective power, federal property, federal mission protection.

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4. Chris Mirasola
5. Jonathan Lord
6. Emily Hoge
7. Fareed Zakaria
8. Tim Wu

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