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Things. Reasons: The independent show for Australian IT leaders (AI, Tech & IT Leadership)

Things. Reasons.
Artificial Intelligence
Amazon Web Services
Microsoft
Monash University
Generative AI
Superannuation
Windc
Technology Leadership
Genai
Databricks
Llms
Cyber Security
Commonwealth Bank
Education
AGI
Armada
Australian Startup Funding
Venture Capital
Microsoft 365
Cloud Computing

Things. Reasons. is the independent podcast for Australian IT leaders. Hosted by Naran McClung and Jono Staff, we unpack what is actually driving change in Australian IT — cloud strategy, AI, cybersecurity, managed services, and vendor dynamics. Not vendor theatre. The conversation after the meeting. New episodes every two weeks. A podcast for CIOs, CTOs, and technology leaders navigating AI, clou... more

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In February 2026, roughly 285 billion US dollars fell off software valuations in 48 hours, on the theory that AI would gut per-seat SaaS. NinjaOne sells per-seat SaaS and is growing about 70 percent a year.

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The IT industry is shedding jobs to cost-cutting, AI restructuring and the usual business cycles, and the man who chairs the Australian Men's Shed Association thinks the real cost, what it does to people's identity and purpose, is the thing nobody is... more

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Twenty years ago, the IT professional's primary qualification was confidence. Nobody had the context to evaluate you. You showed up, tried a reboot, and if it worked, you were a genius. This is the episode where Jono Staff and Naran McClung look back... more

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Australia's startup market just hit an inflection point. $503 million raised across 25 rounds in the first two months of 2026. Twenty five per cent up on the year before. US venture funds are looking south. Singapore now has more ... more

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Luke Clifton
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Episode: Is AI Creating a Crisis of Purpose in IT? With Luke Clifton | Ep. 14
Jason Serda
Founder and managing partner at Utiliti Group; former founder/CTO at multiple tech companies.
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Episode: $10M ARR With 15 People | Jason Serda on How AI Is Rewriting Australia's Startup
Dan Wright
CEO and co-founder of Armada
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Episode: The Cloud Left 70% of the World Behind. This Guy's Coming to Fix It. | Ep. 11
Dr. Kate Gwynne
Independent AI practitioner focusing on human-centric AI
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Episode: Human Things. AI Reasons. | Ep. 10
Connor O'Prey
Senior Industrials Analyst
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Episode: The Analyst, the Disclaimer, and the Two-Speed AI Economy
Andrew Sjoquist
Australian tech entrepreneur
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Episode: Australia's AI Energy Emergency with Andrew Sjoquist
Gustavo Fuchs
VP for Asia Channel Sales at Microsoft
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Episode: What's Really Happening Inside Microsoft, Boomerang Execs and Intrapreneurship
Matt Boon
Senior Research Director of IT at Adapt and host of Boon or Bust
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Episode: Tech Layoffs, Lazy Leadership, and the Myth of "AI Efficiency"
James Henderson
Editorial Director at Moxie Insights
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Episode: Thought Leadership Fatigue, Media Myths, and the Authenticity Gap — with James Henderson

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Naran McClung
Host of Things Reasons
Jono Staff
Co-host of Things Reasons

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 15 ratings
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    Love the fireside chat style of all things cloud. So many learning of what’s practically working out there.

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    Australiaa year ago

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Sharp commentary on governance, ROI, and vendor dynamics.
Thinkful, candid discussions that cut through hype with real-world examples.
Insightful fireside chats on cloud and AI strategy with practical takeaways.

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Q: What's your gut check for spotting a good partner or walking away from a bad one?
Assess the team around the partnership (account managers, pre-sales, technical staff), ensure the tech delivers real outcomes aligned to customer strategy, and seek flexible programs that fit your business and sales motion to minimize friction.
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Q: What's something you used to believe in tech leadership that you no longer do?
That leaders always have all the answers; now we recognize that everyone is navigating uncertainty and learning as they go, which makes curiosity, collaboration, and vulnerability essential leadership traits.
Telstra Sells Off, Even OpenAI Needs Consultants, CyberCX Gets Scooped
Q: What is one piece of advice you would give your past self before taking on a major tech initiative or challenge?
Trust your instincts sooner and move faster; avoid over-deliberating, as time is precious and waiting too long can miss opportunities. This aligns with a mindset of rapid experimentation and willingness to pivot as needed.
The Analyst, the Disclaimer, and the Two-Speed AI Economy
Q: What would you say is your gut check for spotting a good partner and walking away from one who's not?
Trust and shared values are crucial; avoid purely transactional relationships and seek references, collaboration, and a track record of reliable delivery.
The Analyst, the Disclaimer, and the Two-Speed AI Economy
Q: What is something you used to believe in tech leadership that you no longer do?
The guest reflects that leaders are not omniscient and must recognize their strengths and development areas, relying on teams and partnerships rather than claiming sole control over outcomes.

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This show targets Australian IT leaders navigating cloud, AI, cybersecurity, and vendor ecosystems with a pragmatic, no-nonsense tone. Conversations frequently center on leadership during disruption, governance, and practical strategies for adopting AI and cloud at scale, often with real-world anecdotes from CIOs and technology executives. A standout angle is the emphasis on actionable insights over hype, including how to build lean teams, manage vendor partnerships, and drive value in large organizations. The format tends to mix candid leadership stories with strategic guidance, making it helpful for listeners evaluating tech modernization projects, governance, and career pivots within IT leadership roles.

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