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Centering: The Asian American Christian Podcast

Centered: Resources for the Asian American Church
Toxic Ministry
Spiritual Bypassing
Asian American Perspectives
Sabbath
Emotional Health
Asian American Christianity
Sacrificial Faith
Asian American Christian Experience
Asian American Community
Spirit's Anointing
Community Accountability
Charismatic Authority
Mixed Race and Multiracial Identity
John Calvin
Ignatian Spirituality
Little Lights
Spiritual Abuse
Grace
Gaslighting
Toxic Leadership

Centering is the Asian American Christian Podcast: conversations on Christ, the Christian life, and Asian American perspectives. Through our podcast seasons, as well as specially presented content, we dive into the reality and beauty of living out Asian American Christian faith. Centering is a production of the Center for Asian American Theology and Ministry at Fuller Theological Seminary.

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Bone Symphony—Poetry as Spiritual Practice: A Conversation with Michelle Phương Hồ Daniel and Yulee welcome Michelle Phương Hồ—a Vietnamese American poet based in New Haven and one of Daniel's former students at Fuller — for a conversation about her ... more

Justice Work for the Long Haul: A Conversation with Steven Park Daniel and Yulee sit down with Steve Park, founder of Little Lights—a ministry that has spent almost 30 years serving children, youth, and families in underserved communities in Southeas... more

Beautiful, Disappointing, and Hopeful: A Conversation with Drew Hyun Daniel and Yulee sit down with Drew Hyun—founding and lead pastor of Hope Church New York, executive director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship, and author of Beautiful, Disappoin... more

Christ in the Abyss: A Conversation with Jean Neely Daniel and Yulee welcome Jean Neely—Korean American writer, writing instructor at Azusa Pacific University, and author of Christ in the Abyss—for a deeply personal conversation about faith, mental i... more

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Recent Guests

Steve Park
Founder of Little Lights, activist focused on race literacy and urban ministry
Little Lights (Washington, DC)
Episode: Justice Work for the Long Haul: A Conversation with Steven Park
Drew Hyun
Founder and lead pastor of Hope Church New York; Executive director of Emotionally Healthy Discipleship
Hope Church New York; Emotionally Healthy Discipleship
Episode: Beautiful, Disappointing, and Hopeful: A Conversation with Drew Hyun
Jean Neely
Korean American writer, professor at Azusa Pacific University, author of Christ in the Abyss
Azusa Pacific University
Episode: Christ in the Abyss–Encountering God in Suffering: A Conversation with Jean Neely
Kevin Doi
Affiliate professor and director of Asian American Pastoral Formation Initiative
Asian American Center / Fuller Theological Seminary
Episode: Everyday Rhythms and Sacred Encounters: A Conversation with Kevin Doi
Jenn Suen Chen
Author, spiritual director, co-founder of Khora Collective
Khora Collective
Episode: Dim Sum, Stories, and the Search for Home: A Conversation with Jenn Suen Chen
Kenneth Woo
PC Rosen Associate Professor of Church History and Historical Theology at Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
Pittsburgh Theological Seminary
Episode: "John Calvin, Refugee Theologian" A Conversation with Kenneth Woo
Courtney Turner
Professor, chair of the Department of Global Studies and Intercultural/Global Studies at Southern Nazarene University; research fellow at the Asian American Center
Southern Nazarene University; Asian American Center at Fuller
Episode: Mixed Race, Mixed Identity, and Belonging: A Conversation with Courtney Turner
Alexander Jun
Research professor of Korean American Ministry and Church Leadership Studies at Fuller
Fuller Theological Seminary
Episode: Centering 10x9 - No Sabbath... For God's Glory? (Dr. Alexander Jun)
Dr. Kevin Doi
Director of Asian American Pastoral Formation Initiative and Assistant Professor of Asian American Church Studies
Fuller Theological Seminary
Episode: Centering 10x8 - Using People... For God's Glory? (Dr. Kevin Doi)

Hosts

Yulee Lee
Co-host of Centering, with a focus on Asian American Christian perspectives and leadership discussions.
Daniel Lee
Co-host of Centering, bringing academic and ministry leadership insights to conversations on toxic ministry, discernment, and community wellbeing.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 57 ratings
  • Phenomenal

    As a midwestern white man at a multi-ethnic church in LA led by a Korean American lead pastor, I began to listen to this podcast to understand the cultural differences that an Asian American upbringing has from others and to gain insight in how to love my Asian American brothers and sisters. This podcast has been incredibly helpful in my own journey of attempting to decenter the whiteness of my faith. Highly recommend.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jerry kassebaum
    United States6 years ago
  • Best podcast on AA experience

    Such an educational, casual & IMPORTANT podcast. These conversations give me language to my experience that I have never been able to communicate.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Michkimphoto
    United States7 years ago
  • Great podcast

    This is a theologically rich and suggestive, yet down to earth podcast. Perfect length too.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jeffrey Yim
    United States8 years ago
  • Wow.

    The combined ministry experience and wisdom of these guys is incredible. Highly recommended!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Danielsangi
    United States8 years ago

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Shows depth and honesty about Asian American Christian experiences.
Guests offer thoughtful insights on leadership and healing.
Engaging, empathetic, and sometimes provocative on ministry culture.
Discussions feel practical, not overly academic or abstract.

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Justice Work for the Long Haul: A Conversation with Steven Park
Q: How do you balance passion for justice with personal well-being and family life in a demanding ministry?
Steve stresses emotional health as a core metric of success, the need for boundaries, personal leave, and collaborative strengths with his wife Mary to sustain long-term ministry without burnout.
Justice Work for the Long Haul: A Conversation with Steven Park
Q: What have you learned about teaching race literacy in evangelical spaces, especially amid political and cultural pushback?
He emphasizes safe, facilitated small-group discussions, presenting historical facts, and grounding lessons in scripture to illuminate justice, while acknowledging hesitancy and donor shifts in some churches.
Mixed Race, Mixed Identity, and Belonging: A Conversation with Courtney Turner
Q: What practical steps can families and churches take to support mixed-race kids?
Encourage open conversation about race in the home, invite curiosity, and provide a space where kids can process experiences without fear of judgment, ensuring they know they belong even when they face confusing or painful moments.
Mixed Race, Mixed Identity, and Belonging: A Conversation with Courtney Turner
Q: What are some of the terminology and labeling considerations you discuss with students and communities?
She explains the debate around hyphenated identities, the preference for terms like mixed-race or multiracial in academia, and the importance of mirroring the language people use for themselves while acknowledging the baggage attached to certain words.
Mixed Race, Mixed Identity, and Belonging: A Conversation with Courtney Turner
Q: Tell us about your upbringing and how you navigated a mixed-race family.
Turner describes growing up in a family with both Asian and Portuguese heritage, the influence of grandparents who encouraged pride and self-love, and how environmental context (e.g., Hawaii) shaped her sense of security and belonging, while later recognizing the prejudices that come with being mixed-race in different spaces.

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A thoughtful, faith-forward show centered on Asian American Christian perspectives, with a sustained focus on toxic ministry, leadership accountability, and the intersection of culture and faith. Episodes frequently feature discussions on rest, discernment, and healthy spiritual practices, often through personal stories and practical theology. A standout with this audience is the emphasis on community healing, cross-cultural critique, and a cautious, compassionate approach to leadership dynamics, which should appeal to listeners seeking depth, authenticity, and constructive dialogue about church life and identity.

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1. Steve Park
2. Drew Hyun
3. Jean Neely
4. Kevin Doi
5. Jenn Suen Chen
6. Kenneth Woo
7. Courtney Turner
8. Alexander Jun

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