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Modern Law Library

Legal Talk Network
Supreme Court
Access To Justice
Adverse Possession
Lethal Injection
Shadow Docket
Democracy
Immigrant Detention
Capital Punishment
American Bar Association
Nuremberg Trials
Furman V. Georgia
Greg V. Georgia
Buford Pusser
Robert H. Jackson
Legal Writing
The Best Lies
Lawyer Nation
Guantanamo
Voting Rights
Chinese Exclusion Act

Discover books and stories that explore the law in new and surprising ways through eye-opening conversations with their authors. Whether it’s fiction or non-fiction that you seek, Modern Law Library features today’s top legal authors and delves into legal theories, historical events, true crime, and law-inspired storytelling. Join Lee Rawles twice a month as she opens up a new legal publication on... more

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When Shaun Ossei-Owusu looked around at his classmates at UC Berkeley School of Law, there were many upper middle class children of lawyers who were coming straight from their undergraduate degrees. There were not many people like him, a child of Gha... more

The Third Amendment to the Constitution forbids the quartering of troops in Americans' houses. It's a reminder of how uneasy the people of the country have been about the domestic deployment of our soldiers. There are robust rules about how the milit... more

Coming across the right book at the right time can make all the difference, says Sherry Thomas, author of the popular Lady Sherlock series. In her case, picking up a historical romance from the library led to her writing career.

"Two years into my c... more

It's time for the first official meeting of the Modern Law Library Book Club, and Lee has invited on her friend (and go-to Nixon expert) Victor Li to talk about his experience reading the 1979 bestseller The Brethren: Inside the Supreme Court. As bot... more

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Recent Guests

Shaun Ossei-Owusu
Author of Law on Trial; law professor
University of Pennsylvania Law School (and Berkeley Law background)
Episode: 'Unlikely insider' critiques how law school thinking can reinforce injustices
Jonathan D. Bratton
Editor of Forging the Framework, Evolving Law, Policy, and Doctrine for the US Military's Domestic Response
Editor, Forging the Framework
Episode: How we deploy the military domestically, and why
Sherry Thomas
Author of The Librarians and Lady Sherlock series
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Episode: Sherry Thomas's sleuthing librarians and gender-bent Sherlock
Victor Li
Assistant Managing Editor of the ABA Journal
ABA Journal
Episode: Book Club: The Brethren introduces Tricky Dick's chief justice
Andrew Guthrie Ferguson
Author of Your Data Will Be Used Against You, Policing in the Age of Self-Surveillance
George Washington University Law School (faculty mentioned in discussion)
Episode: Your household devices are tracking you—but who else is watching?
G. Edward White
Author of Robert H. Jackson, A Life in Judgement
Episode: Meet the 'inscrutable' SCOTUS justice who made the Nuremberg trials possible
Katherine Eva Maich
Author of "Bringing Law Home, Gender, Race and Household Labor Rights"
Texas A&M University
Episode: The Help: What labor rights do domestic workers have
Mike Elam
Author of Buford Pusser, The Other Story
Episode: Cold case investigation into 'Walking Tall' sheriff uncovers murder
Judith Resnik
Author and law professor at Yale Law School
Yale Law School
Episode: What place do prisons have in democracies?

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Lee Rawles
Host of modern law-focused book conversations with a background in legal journalism and scholarship.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 51 ratings
  • Great show!

    Engaging host and fantastic guests!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Reader from Ohio
    United States2 years ago
  • Valuable interviews

    Lee Rawles is great. Well prepared host and well arranged programs.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sully99
    United States6 years ago
  • Thanks!

    The episode with Mary the epidemiologist was really well done. Warm and human and informative. Lots of good science and fiction recommendations. Thanks for this.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    JRScrapple
    United States6 years ago
  • Cogent and thoughtful with a great host

    Superb podcast. Host Lee Rawles is whip-smart and a great interviewer. Glad to have this in the rotation.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Yeits
    United States7 years ago

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Sherry Thomas's sleuthing librarians and gender-bent Sherlock
Q: How do you approach diversity in historical romance versus mystery?
Mysteries offer more flexibility to feature diverse, everyday people and settings, whereas historical romance faced more resistance; I chose mystery to explore broader backgrounds while still honoring the historical period.
Sherry Thomas's sleuthing librarians and gender-bent Sherlock
Q: What were the publishing decisions that shaped The Librarians?
The publisher asked for a contemporary setting with a trio of female librarians, aiming for an international crime angle, so I embraced that direction while maintaining the essence of the Sherlock Holmes-inspired premise.
Sherry Thomas's sleuthing librarians and gender-bent Sherlock
Q: How did your love for Sherlock Holmes influence your decision to write a gender-bent, female-Sherlock series?
I wanted to explore the possibilities of a Sherlock who is fallible yet brilliant, and place her in a historical context where being a woman created substantial barriers, which could lead to richer character development and more nuanced storytelling.
Book Club: The Brethren introduces Tricky Dick's chief justice
Q: What does the book reveal about Nixon's approach to the Supreme Court, and how did it impact later judicial appointments?
The host and guest explain that Nixon sought a court aligned with a conservative, law-and-order agenda, which shaped subsequent nominations like Burger's and the broader court-realignment, while acknowledging the limits of what could be anticipated from the era's political climate.
Book Club: The Brethren introduces Tricky Dick's chief justice
Q: Since the book was published 50 years ago, how does its portrayal of clerks and behind-the-scenes sourcing hold up today?
The guests suggest that the portrayal remains insightful about how clerks influence opinion formation and how reporters accessed confidential information, though readers should consider changes in court transparency and document availability over time.

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What is Modern Law Library about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful, book-centered series that brings legal authors and scholars into long conversations about law, history, and society. Episodes blend nonfiction analysis with storytelling, mystery writing, and historical legal narratives, often featuring deep dives into constitutional issues, civil rights, policing, and the mechanics of courts. Notable strengths include high-caliber guests from academia, publishing, and practice, plus a steady stream of fresh perspectives on how law shapes culture. This show tends to attract listeners who enjoy rigorous discussion, behind-the-scenes legal history, and crossover between legal topics and storytelling.

A standout trait is the host's preparation and ability to broaden complex legal topics into acc... more

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