
How do you disagree with substance, respect, and a spot of laughter? Is it possible for deep difference to be the uncanny glue of a free society, and not the spark for its conflagration? What does good-faith persuasion look like anymore? Zealots at the Gate from Comment explores these questions through the friendship of two men: Muslim political thinker Shadi Hamid and Christian theologian Matthew... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 51 | Founded | 4 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | Society & CultureReligionReligion & Spirituality | |||

Leah Libresco Sargeant and Hadia Mubarak join Matt and Shadi to discuss what feminism looks like within their respective commitments to Catholicism and Islam. Libresco, an author and speaker and atheist-to-Catholic convert, argues for the consistency... more
Matt and Shadi's initiative, The Faith and Future of Democracy Initiative, is now housed at the Alwaleed Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding at Georgetown University. The two sat down with the center director and Georgetown faculty member Nader... more
What are the lessons of 9/11? What does it mean to "never forget"? Join Matt and Shadi as they reflect on the fact that Muslims and Christians remember 9/11 and its aftermath quite differently. Together, Matt and Shadi share their personal stories fr... more
In the previous episode, Matthew and Shadi sat down with self-described Christian nationalist William Wolfe and gave him substantial room to articulate his account of American history and his vision of Christianity, religious pluralism, and political... more
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I love this podcast and always look forward to new episodes. That being said, there’s a difference between Shadi’s philosophical approach to religion and Matthew’s, which doesn’t map neatly onto how Muslims and Christians think about their religion. Shadi has a more liberal, almost perennialist attitude to Islam, whereas Matthew is (as marketed) an evangelical Christian. I also see some mismatch between their background expertise on the finer points of theology. As a Muslim listener, I would lov... more
I have deep rooted ties to Islam, with family and friends who are Muslim. I am deeply protective of them. Listening to this dialogue helps me feel fully seen, the part that worships and loves Jesus, and the part that appreciates and respects my Muslim family and friends. I’m so thankful for this podcast for modeling a way for me to think through complex issues that no one else is talking about, especially not with such thoughtfulness and care. Too often Christians are keen to emphasize their dee... more
I am grateful for their dialogue; not necessarily agreeing, and yet, honoring each other by listening, and when speaking, showing respect for their friend. The guest have been great! Thanks for sharing with us.
Shadi and Matt’s interfaith dialogue podcast beautifully demonstrates a way of unlocking the power of religious traditions while providing inspiration in all sorts of surprising ways
Pluralism in the US is a particularly difficult conversation. As Matt and Shadi model generous curiosity from particular beliefs, they make an argument for imagining a better culture. That kind of imagination is a powerful gift listeners can bring in our individual circles.
Folks who hold particular beliefs can do better than defensive us/them postures, and these guys are inviting us to—with the same generosity they extend to each other. Fantastic fodder for better conversations.
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The show centers on thoughtful, civil dialogues across faith and politics, pairing a Muslim political thinker and a Christian theologian as they unpack contentious topics like Christian nationalism, interfaith relations, democracy, and the role of religion in public life. Across episodes, conversations probe liberal pluralism, democratic norms, and the moral dimensions of public policy, often featuring guests with expertise in religion, politics, and international affairs. Noteworthy is the commitment to generous curiosity, humility, and a willingness to challenge assumptions without sacrificing conviction, which makes it a strong fit for listeners who value nuanced debate over partisan statecraft.
A standout aspect is the recurring emphas... more
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Recent guests on Zealots at the Gate include:
1. Nader Hashemi
2. William Wolfe
3. David Brooks
4. Robert Nicholson
5. Lyman Stone
6. Omar Suleiman
7. Ari Gordon
8. Rob Schenck
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