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Two Ordinary Cops

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Domestic Violence
Northern Territory Police
Mental Health
Policing
PTSD
Leadership
Bush Policing
Community Relations
Investigations
Communication
Funny Stories
Darwin
Cultural Understanding
Aboriginal Communities
Delegation
Jabiluka Mine
Hypervigilance
Anzac Day
Protests
Emergency Services

The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their time in the job. Follow along through the laughter, anger and tears that come with the rigours of Policing Australia’s last frontier.

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In the final part of the coronial series, Zach Rolfe lays it all bare — the evidence, the bias, and the fallout that followed. He recounts being torn apart on the stand, the silence when hard evidence challenged the narrative, and the irony of an $11... more

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In this fifth instalment of the Zach Rolfe series, Schultzy and Damo sit down with Zach as he unpacks what unfolded after his Supreme Court acquittal — the return to work, the internal reviews, and the long shadow of the coronial inquest. Zach detail... more

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The Two Ordinary Cops return for Part 4 of the Zac Rolfe series, diving into the tense lead-up to the Supreme Court trial and the five gruelling weeks that followed. From delayed hearings, hidden evidence, and internal charges laid just days before p... more

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In Part 3 of the Zac Rolfe series, we step into the moment everything changed—Rolfe’s arrest for murder. What followed raised difficult questions: was this an impartial investigation, or had the outcome already been decided? Rolfe recounts being dire... more

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Zach Rolfe
Former police officer involved in the trial concerning the death of Kumanjai Walker
Episode: Episode 92 – Part 5 Interview with Zach Rolfe – Coronial Choices: Narrative, Bias, and the Evidence Left Behind
Zac Rolfe
Former member of the Northern Territory Police involved in the shooting of Kumajai Walker
Episode: Episode 88 – Part 1 Interview with Zach Rolfe - Voluntary Discomfort, Real-World Pressure.
Luke McCulloch
Former police officer and author
Episode: Episode 86 - Deep, Dark and Dirty – Tales of a Diver with Luke McCulloch
Karlie Fleming
Former civilian intelligence analyst with Queensland Police, specializing in operational performance and recovery training.
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Episode: Episode 85 – Hypervigilance, Heartbreak, and Healing, Interview with Karlie Fleming
Jarrod Michael
Former police officer and helicopter pilot.
Episode: Episode 79 – From Cop to Accused to Airborne: Jarrod Michael’s Journey
Liz Schultz
Ben Schultz's mother, sharing her perspective on her son's career in the police force
Episode: Episode 77 – When Your Son Wears the Uniform: A Mother’s Perspective
Nick White
Former police officer, founder of the charity Bellator Fortitudinem
Bellator Fortitudinem
Episode: Episode 76 – From PTSD to Purpose: Nick White’s Mission to Save First Responders
Peter Vinnicombe
Paramedic with the Queensland Ambulance Service.
Queensland Ambulance Service
Episode: Episode 69 – When the Armour Cracks: An Interview with Queensland Paramedic Peter Vinnicombe
Emma Fay
Wife of co-host Damien Barbe
Episode: Episode 64 - Remote, Resilient, and Married to a Cop

Hosts

Ben Schultz
Co-host and former police officer with over 25 years of experience in law enforcement.
Damien Barbe
Co-host and former police officer, sharing insights from his extensive law enforcement career.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 130 ratings
  • Good insight

    A good insight into their old vocation by some good cunce

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Big Grev
    Australiaa month ago
  • The Schultzy laugh!

    Never gets old. Enjoying ya stories!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lylesnn
    Australia5 months ago
  • Great Podcas about Remote / NT Policing.

    Loving this podcast great mix of funny stories and serious topics.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MB816357
    Australia2 years ago
  • Great personable shared stories

    Really enjoying your stories fellas, thanks for sharing.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Simo663
    Australia2 years ago
  • Awesome job

    Great work guys, love the content. Enjoyed every second!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Durko🍻
    Australia2 years ago

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Many enjoy the balance of entertaining anecdotes with informative content, making the podcast both enjoyable and educational.
Feedback highlights the importance of the hosts' candid discussions around mental health and policing challenges.
Listeners appreciate the blend of humor and serious topics, finding the storytelling relatable and engaging.

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#248
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Episode 89 – Part 2 Interview with Zach Rolfe - The Shooting That Split a Nation.
Q: How did you respond during the confrontation?
Zac details his actions during the physical altercation, including how he defended himself and ultimately used his firearm when Walker became a lethal threat.
Episode 89 – Part 2 Interview with Zach Rolfe - The Shooting That Split a Nation.
Q: What led to the incident in November 2019?
Zac Rolfe explains that Kumanjayi Walker had absconded from a rehabilitation center leading to a series of police attempts to locate him before the shooting occurred.
Episode 87 – Mailbag Mayhem and a Bombshell
Q: What vehicles do police find most effective for their job?
Different cars are suited for different tasks, but reliability and adaptability in tough conditions are key.
Episode 87 – Mailbag Mayhem and a Bombshell
Q: Could you talk about the daily realities of policing in Darwin?
Policing can involve unpredictable situations and is often dependent on radio calls; it varies wildly from glory to mundane tasks.
Episode 87 – Mailbag Mayhem and a Bombshell
Q: What are the areas in, say, Darwin, that are better places to live and set up a home in if you want low crime rates?
Any of the newer suburbs are pretty good, with a drop in break-ins due to new rules established.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Two Ordinary Cops

What is Two Ordinary Cops about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This podcast provides an engaging and often humorous perspective on the world of law enforcement as shared by two former police officers from the Northern Territory. Listeners can expect to hear a blend of personal anecdotes, serious discussions about mental health, and insights into the realities of policing in challenging environments. Themes of camaraderie, trauma faced by first responders, and the complexities of public perception towards police work are frequently explored, making the content relatable and educational. The hosts' unique experiences in the remote territories of Australia add a distinctive flavor to the narratives, tackling both light-hearted and serious topics surrounding their careers and the impacts of policing on the... more

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1. Zach Rolfe
2. Zac Rolfe
3. Luke McCulloch
4. Karlie Fleming
5. Jarrod Michael
6. Liz Schultz
7. Nick White
8. Peter Vinnicombe

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