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Two Ordinary Cops

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Northern Territory Police
Mental Health
Domestic Violence
Policing
Northern Territory
PTSD
Alice Springs
Emergency Services
Police Work
Leadership
Australia
Darwin
Youth Crime
Community Relations
Queensland Police Service
First Responders
Brett Forte
Queensland Police
Police Training
Trauma

The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their time in the job. Follow along through the laughter, anger and tears that come with the rigours of Policing Australia’s last frontier.

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In this powerful episode, the boys sit down with Queensland policing legend Keith Banks. From working deep undercover and helping build Queensland’s early tactical policing capability, to facing some of the most confronting moments of his career, Kei... more

In this special episode, Schultzy's partner, Miriam Leask, joins the podcast to share her firsthand account of living through the devastating Christchurch earthquakes. From the terrifying moments when the earth shook beneath her feet to the long road... more

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This week, Schultzy and Damo reflect on their experience at the Queensland Police Union Council Conference and the incredible people they met along the way. From frontline coppers and union representatives to those who continue to serve despite signi... more

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In this special live episode, Schultzy and Damo take the stage at the Queensland Police Union Council Conference to share their experiences from policing in some of the toughest and most remote parts of Australia.

The boys discuss the lasting impact... more

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Jack Woods
Member of Bellator involved in physical therapy and PTSD work with first responders
Bellator
Episode: Episode 124 – Bellator, Brotherhood and Fighting PTSD with Jack Woods
Lyn Kowalski
Civilian staff member who supported Queensland Police, 1998–2021
Queensland Police Service (CPIU/CIB admin)
Episode: Episode 123 - The Backbone Behind the Badge with Lyn Kowalski
Nick White
Founder of Bellator Fortitudinum
Bellator Fortitudinum
Episode: Episode 122 – The Missing Piece in First Responder Mental Health – Bellator Fortitudinum with Nick White and Krista Hawke
Krista Hawk
Psychologist specializing in first responders
Bellator Fortitudinum (organizational member)
Episode: Episode 122 – The Missing Piece in First Responder Mental Health – Bellator Fortitudinum with Nick White and Krista Hawke
Andy Bedwell
Former detective sergeant, NT Police; later in WA
Northern Territory Police / Western Australia Police
Episode: Episode 116 – Murders, Mateship and Belly Laughs with Andy Bedwell
David Raymond
Queensland police officer, retired dog handler
Queensland Police Service
Episode: Episode 114 – Tracking Crooks and Saving Lives – with Police Dog Handler David Raymond
Jake Lacy
Current serving Queensland Police, former member of the Queensland Police Union of Employees
Queensland Police
Episode: Episode 111 - From Gold Coast to Mount Isa - Thrown in Deep with Jake Lacy
Amit Singh
Queensland Police Service member with experience in various towns across the state
Queensland Police Service
Episode: Episode 109 – Cross-Border Cops & Bush Banter: A Chat with QPS’ Amit Singh
Rebecca Dale
Games Manager for the Australasian Police and Emergency Services Games, with 35 years of experience in the Queensland Police Service.
Queensland Police Service
Episode: Episode 107 – Australasian Games on the Gold Coast - Mates, Medals & Mayhem (with Rebecca Dale)

Hosts

Ben Schultz
Host of Two Ordinary Cops; former Northern Territory Police Officer; extensive frontline policing experience.
Damien Barbe
Co-host of the show; former Northern Territory Police Officer; brings frontline policing and leadership perspectives.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 171 ratings
  • BRS

    Love the pod guys but this weeks ep regarding Ben Robert’s-Smith was excuse making. I have the highest respect for our defence forces but even Aussie soldiers can commit war crimes. Would we honestly be so defensive of a soldier from any country’s military?

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    JustMe@25
    Australia2 months ago
  • Hooked

    Still hooked

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    hard knocz
    Australia3 months ago
  • Debatable

    There’s some morsels of truth mixed in amongst a whole lot of ego-tripping BS.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Skeletorthesage
    Australia3 months ago
  • Episode 107

    The interview with Rebecca Dale AKA is good but you need to do a Part 2 with her… she is one of the funniest shielas on the planet and she was very controlled during your interview… Cheers Tracey ‘Pello’ Pelling

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pello_9
    Australia5 months ago
  • Intelligent and riveting

    Very interesting podcast, delivered by two very articulate, thoughtful, measured and intelligent police. Thank you for sharing your insights.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cdlhstar
    Australia5 months ago

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Praise for insightful, articulate hosting and balanced, thoughtful discussion.
Strong appreciation for authentic policing stories and camaraderie between hosts.
Some criticism around ego or controversial takes in a few episodes.
Positive notes on handling sensitive topics like PTSD with respect and authenticity.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Episode 109 – Cross-Border Cops & Bush Banter: A Chat with QPS’ Amit Singh
Q: What led you to start your own podcast?
I started a podcast called Strong Legacy to share stories and promote mental health awareness among police officers.
Episode 107 – Australasian Games on the Gold Coast - Mates, Medals & Mayhem (with Rebecca Dale)
Q: How do people get involved?
They can register online through the Australasian Police and Emergency Services Games website, paying a registration fee to participate in various sports.
Episode 108 – “Jobs On”: Full Moon Madness, Dog Squad Yarns & Croc Country (Q&A)
Q: Have you had any experiences with crocodile attacks?
I haven't been directly involved, but I've heard many stories and know it's a serious issue.
Episode 108 – “Jobs On”: Full Moon Madness, Dog Squad Yarns & Croc Country (Q&A)
Q: What are your thoughts on the full moon and its effect on crime rates?
There's a noticeable increase in erratic behavior and strange incidents during full moons.
Episode 108 – “Jobs On”: Full Moon Madness, Dog Squad Yarns & Croc Country (Q&A)
Q: What advice do you have for a young person wanting to join the AFP?
Take your time before joining the police; gaining life experience is crucial.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Two Ordinary Cops

What is Two Ordinary Cops about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two former Australian police officers bring decades of frontline experience to candid conversations about policing in remote and regional communities. Across episodes, they balance dark humor with serious discussions on leadership, mental health, PTSD, and the evolving culture within law enforcement, often contrasting fieldwork with back-office realities like administration, canine units, and policy. Guests range from clinicians and first-responder advocates to experienced officers, offering practical insights, peer-support strategies, and behind-the-scenes looks at how institutions shape wellbeing, retention, and public safety. The show stands out for its earned credibility, raw storytelling, and willingness to challenge conventional polic... more

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Recent guests on Two Ordinary Cops include:

1. Jack Woods
2. Lyn Kowalski
3. Nick White
4. Krista Hawk
5. Andy Bedwell
6. David Raymond
7. Jake Lacy
8. Amit Singh

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