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This vs. That

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A podcast where we have conversations that explore what we think and why we think it.

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On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the relationship between professional counseling and everyday counseling with Dr. Kristin Kellen, associate professor of biblical counseling at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. We discuss how the... more

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome back Yana Jenay Conner to explore the difficult but essential work of forgiveness in close friendships. We discuss why forgiveness matters so deeply in our faith and why it's such hard work when friends wo... more

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Ronnie Martin, pastor and Director of Leader Care and Renewal for the Harbor Network, to explore unhurried ministry versus anxious ministry.

We dig into why so many ministry leaders find themselves ... more

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Darby Strickland, faculty member and counselor at CCEF, to discuss understanding trauma versus simplistic responses to trauma. We explore what trauma really is and how it impacts people—disrupting th... more

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Recent Guests

Yana Jenay Conner
Writer and Bible teacher, Adult Ministry Director at Vertical Church
Vertical Church
Episode: Healing vs. Holding On - Yana Jenay Conner
Ronnie Martin
Pastor in residence at Redeemer Community Church and director of leader care and renewal for the Harbor Network
Harbor Network
Episode: Unhurried Ministry vs. Anxious Ministry - Ronnie Martin
Darby Strickland
Faculty member and counselor at CCEF, author of 'Is It Abuse?' and 'When It's Trauma'.
CCEF (Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation)
Episode: Understanding Trauma vs. Simplistic Responses to Trauma - Darby Strickland
Brad Hambrick
Pastor of counseling at the Summit Church and assistant professor at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary
Summit Church
Episode: Healing from Betrayal: Ideal Expectations vs. Intentional Process - Brad Hambrick
Thomas West
Senior Pastor of Nashville First Baptist Church and Adjunct Professor of Theology at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Nashville First Baptist Church
Episode: The Gospel Way vs. The Way of the World- Trevin Wax and Thomas West
Scott Mehl
Pastor of Cornerstone Church and managing director for the Institute of Biblical Counseling and Discipleship
Cornerstone Church
Episode: Self-Centered Sex vs. God-Centered Sex - Scott Mehl
Becca Hannah
President and CEO of Anchored Virtual
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Episode: Bonus Episode: Women in Leadership Cohort - Rebekah Hannah
Nate Brooks
Associate Professor of Counseling at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and Counseling Minister at Faith Baptist Church
Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary
Episode: Honesty vs. Cynicism - Nate Brooks
Harrison Scott Key
Author known for humorous and candid reflections on marriage.
Episode: Fairytale Marriage vs. Real Marriage - Harrison Scott Key

Hosts

Brian Walker
Co-host of discussions focusing on Christian counseling, faith, and personal development.
Rebekah Hanna
Co-host and leader passionate about women's leadership and community support within a Christian context.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 53 ratings
  • Helpful! Encouraging!

    This podcast has been so encouraging, informative and helpful! It has been an excellent resource as I learn to be a better counselor and people helper!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HappyZeva18
    United States2 years ago
  • Authentic

    Love this podcast! The hosts are authentic and down to earth. I feel encouraged in my walk as a believer and as I’m working toward becoming a counselor. Also specifically enjoyed the more recent Frustration vs Anger episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    IthinkAboutYouAllTheTime
    United States2 years ago
  • Authentic

    Love this podcast! The hosts are authentic and down to earth. I feel encouraged in my walk as a believer and as I’m working toward becoming a counselor.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    IthinkAboutYouAllTheTime
    United States2 years ago
  • Great podcast

    This is a great podcast to help you think through some of life’s common problems.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tlot02
    United States3 years ago
  • Stands out amongst other counseling podcasts

    I appreciate their direct and easy way, the interesting and unique questions, the biblical view of counseling. Definitely stands out amongst other biblical counseling podcasts. 100% recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Celied
    Germany3 years ago

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Many reviews highlight the unique blend of biblical perspective with practical advice on common life challenges, distinguishing it from other counseling-focused outlets.
Listeners appreciate the encouraging and informative nature of the conversations, finding them relevant to their personal and spiritual journeys.
The authenticity of the hosts is frequently praised for making complex topics more relatable and accessible.

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Healing vs. Holding On - Yana Jenay Conner
Q: What role does grief and lament play in having a healthy response to wrongs?
Grief and lament allow individuals to acknowledge their pain, which is essential for moving towards forgiveness and preventing unchecked anger or bitterness.
Healing vs. Holding On - Yana Jenay Conner
Q: Why did you decide to write on forgiveness?
After encountering gaps in the conversations about forgiveness in church settings, Yana felt compelled to explore the topic deeply, recognizing the need for tangible guidance on how to move towards forgiveness.
Unhurried Ministry vs. Anxious Ministry - Ronnie Martin
Q: If people are thinking about rethinking some of the things that we've talked about today, what are some resources you would recommend?
Ronnie lists several impactful resources and books that explore themes of ministry workload, rest, and personal health.
Unhurried Ministry vs. Anxious Ministry - Ronnie Martin
Q: Can you share what put that book on your hearts as you guys decided to collaborate on that?
Ronnie mentions that the book was inspired by discussions with Brian Croft about the busy pastor and how they wanted to address this issue in a contemporary context.
Unhurried Ministry vs. Anxious Ministry - Ronnie Martin
Q: Can you say a little bit more about the gap between kind of the stated beliefs that most pastors have about their limitations and the reality of their overextensions?
Ronnie explains that there's societal pressure on pastors to prove their worth through busyness, which can lead to them feeling the need to constantly perform and extend themselves.

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2. Ronnie Martin
3. Darby Strickland
4. Brad Hambrick
5. Thomas West
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7. Becca Hannah
8. Nate Brooks

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