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The Work Goes On: An Oral History of Industrial Relations and Labor Economics with Princeton’s Orley Ashenfelter

Industrial Relations Section, Princeton University
Labor Economics
Southern Labor Movement
U.S. Labor Department
Economic Development
Minimum Wage
Orphanages
Navy
Union Membership
Orchestras
Great Depression
Women's Work
Education
Feminist Economics
Dualistic Labor Market
Italian Labor Market
Italy
Economics Of the Family
Cost Of Living Indexes
Consumer Behavior
Two-Career Problem

Podcast by Industrial Relations Section, Princeton University

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V. Joseph Hotz, Research Professor at the Harris School of Public Policy at the University of Chicago and Arts and Sciences Distinguished Professor of Economics and Public Policy Emeritus at Duke University, discusses his research on life cycle model... more

Solomon Polachek, Distinguished Professor of Economics at Binghamton University, State University of New York, discusses his academic career, his teaching awards, his past and ongoing research on the gender wage gap, and his role as Dean of Harpur Co... more

John Abowd, Edmund Ezra Day Professor Emeritus of Economics, Statistics, and Data Science at Cornell University, reflects on his academic career, his research on worker and firm effects on wages, employing a model that became known as the “AKM model,... more

John Bound, George E. Johnson Collegiate Professor Emeritus of Economics, emeritus at the University of Michigan, discusses his varied academic career, the mentors who played significant roles in his life, and his pioneering research on the impacts o... more

Richard Murnane, Thompson Research Professor at the Harvard Graduate School of Education and research associate at the National Bureau of Economic Research, discusses his early education, his studies on the relationship between a quality education an... more

Eric Hanushek, Paul and Jean Hanna Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, discusses his significant contributions to educational policy, his work on the economic returns to educational quality, the impact of No Child Left Beh... more

Judy Gueron, President Emerita at Manpower Demonstration Research Corporation (MDRC), discusses her education at Radcliffe and Harvard, her pioneering work utilizing randomized field trials at the MDRC, her research on welfare reform, and the challen... more

Morris Kleiner, professor and AFL-CIO Chair in Labor Policy at the Humphrey School of Public Affairs at the University of Minnesota, discusses his academic background, his research on state-to-state labor migration and occupational licensing, and his... more

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V. Joseph Hotz
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Episode: V. Joseph Hotz on women’s labor supply & fertility and balancing data privacy & use
Solomon Polachek
Distinguished Professor of Economics at Binghamton University, renowned for his work in labor economics.
Binghamton University, State University of New York
Episode: Solomon Polachek on why men and women have different wages via the human capital model
John Abowd
Edmund Ezra Day Professor of Economics, Statistics and Data Science Emeritus at Cornell University, former Chief Scientist at the U.S. Census Bureau
Cornell University
Episode: John Abowd on the AKM method and the importance of a ‘non-controversial’ U.S. Census
John Bound
George E. Johnson Collegiate Professor of Economics Emeritus at the University of Michigan
University of Michigan
Episode: John Bound, a “latecomer” to economics, on the impact of disability on labor force activity
Richard Murnane
Juliana W and William Foss Thompson Professor of Education and Society at the Harvard Graduate School of Education
Harvard Graduate School of Education
Episode: Richard Murnane on the importance of quality education for upward mobility
Eric Hanushek
Paul and Jean Hanna Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, known for his work in the economics of education.
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Episode: Eric Hanushek on what test scores indicate about teacher effectiveness and national growth, and more
Charles Brown
Professor of Economics and Research Professor of the Survey Research Center, Emeritus at the University of Michigan
University of Michigan
Episode: Charles Brown on pay gaps, unions, productivity, and the firing of the BLS Commissioner
William B. Gould IV
Charles A. Beardsley Professor of Law Emeritus at Stanford University and former chair of the National Labor Relations Board
Stanford University
Episode: William B. Gould IV on chairing the NLRB & honoring his great-grandfather, a black Civil War sailor
Michael Moskow
Vice Chair of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, known for his extensive career in economics and labor relations.
Chicago Council on Global Affairs
Episode: Michael Moskow on his path from Paterson, NJ to “…one of the best jobs you can have in Washington”

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Orley Ashenfelter
Host of The Work Goes On, Princeton University, Industrial Relations Section

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John Bound, a “latecomer” to economics, on the impact of disability on labor force activity
Q: What have you concluded about the role of the disability income program?
I think it has played a role, but it's not the only factor.
John Abowd on the AKM method and the importance of a ‘non-controversial’ U.S. Census
Q: Can you summarize what that all was about and what has happened?
John Abowd explains how the addition of a citizenship question to the 2020 Census led to multiple lawsuits and a court case where he testified about the implications of the question.
Eric Hanushek on what test scores indicate about teacher effectiveness and national growth, and more
Q: Do you have an evaluation in your own mind of whether No Child Left Behind was a useful project or not?
Hanushek believes No Child Left Behind had a positive impact by focusing on student outcomes, despite its fundamental flaws in policy formation.
Heidi Hartmann on equal pay, family leave, and gender equity in the field of Economics
Q: What are the key areas of research or public policy important for women in economics?
Hartmann emphasized the importance of incorporating care into economic discussions and ensuring access to education for women, while also advocating for legal protections for women's rights.
Myra Strober on women, work, and feminist economics
Q: How do you feel that the profession has changed enough to be welcoming with regard to gender?
I think all of academia is more welcoming than it used to be, not only in economics, but also in science and law.

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A rigorous, intellectually driven program centered on labor economics, industrial relations, and public policy. Across recent episodes, the focus has been on wage gaps, human capital, the economics of education, labor market dynamics, and the role of institutions in shaping economic outcomes. Guests are renowned researchers and policymakers who bring long-form, method-heavy discussions—from AKM wage decomposition and census methodology to the politics of labor statistics and the impact of education quality on mobility. A standout aspect is the commitment to historical context and methodological clarity, often exploring how policy choices, data design, and institutional structures influence real-world labor outcomes.

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