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A pop culture podcast from an internet expert, Savannah Locke & an ethics professor who doesn't own a cell phone, Lee C. Camp. On The Subtext, Savannah brings a pop-culture moment (celebrity drama, internet debates, viral shows), and together they ask a deeper question: why does any of this actually matter? Each week they dive into the headlines and investigate what they reveal about our culture, ... more

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This week on The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, free speech, and the billionaire power behind the music business. Lee and Savannah unpack the controversy, looking to Dolly Parton as a guide.

What happens when public outrage becomes a purity test? ... more

It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Anything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more.

Thank you to everyone who m... more

Turns out, Gen Z is talking less, scrolling more, and forgetting how to be human.

This week, Savannah and Lee unpack the surprising decline in everyday conversation and why talking to strangers actually matters. Then a listener’s question prompts th... more

Six 'English' strangers try to go Amish for a month, surfacing big questions about autonomy, conformity, vanity, and discernment.

This week we're talking about TLC's Suddenly Amish, a (very scripted) reality show where six outsiders spend a month li... more

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Sarah Glass
Host of This American Life
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Emelu Harris
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Episode: How to Leave Your Church - Ask Us Anything 2
Jacob Mchangama
Founder and executive director of The Future of Free Speech; research professor at Vanderbilt University; senior fellow at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression
The Future of Free Speech, Vanderbilt University, FIRE
Episode: Free Speech with Jacob Mchangama Part 2
Lee C. Camp
Author of Scandalous Witness, ethics professor
Eerdmans (publisher)
Episode: Scandalous Witness with Lee C. Camp
Beth Allison Barr
Historian and Baylor University professor, author of Becoming the Pastor's Wife and The Making of Biblical Womanhood
Baylor University
Episode: Yesteryear and the Trad Wife Movement with Beth Allison Barr
Erin Calipari
Director of the Vanderbilt Center for Addiction Research and Associate Professor in the Department of Pharmacology
Vanderbilt University
Episode: The Pitt: What We Get Wrong About Addiction with Erin Calipari
Donovan McAbee
Poet and professor who wrote Holy the Body
Belmont University (former professor); author of Holy the Body
Episode: Everyone Hates Poetry with Donovan McAbee

Hosts

Savannah Locke
Host of The Subtext, pop-culture expert
Lee C. Camp
Co-host of The Subtext, ethics professor

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 71 ratings
  • We love the subtext!

    I (Hanna) have followed Savannah for years since I stumbled headlong into an intense season of deconstruction in the early years of our marriage. Paul is a life long nerdy intellectual and seminary grad who is not on social media. We moved to the United States from Europe a year ago, and the Subtext has been the perfect vehicle for us to process the ~Wild West~ of what’s happening in American culture at the moment. We love listening to Savannah and Lee in the car together every week, and listeni... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    HannaAndPaul
    United States9 days ago
  • LOVE this pod!

    I am so glad I stumbled upon this podcast. Savannah and Lee are such an awesome team! They offer great perspectives on social issues and current events. I especially enjoy how they bring their own unique take through a Christian lens without being overbearing theologically. Highly recommend this podcast to anyone wanting to learn, grow and expand their understanding of the life and times we live in.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Saintanybody
    United Statesa month ago
  • At first I was baffled…

    When I first came across the pairing of Savannah and Lee, I have to admit that I was a little baffled. Savannah, kind of sounding continually wondrous and Lee sounding patient with the wanderings of wherever she takes the conversation. But, you know, it just works. Both of them embody the Christian version of my agnostic soul - how can we simply be better versions of ourselves? How can we honor this treasure of what it is to be given life? To that end, I’ve added The Subtext to No Small Endeavor... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cflott
    United States2 months ago
  • Multigenerational Conversations!

    I’m retired now, and one thing I miss are the day-to-day conversations with my work friends who were various ages. I had a few “Savannahs” in my work life who kept me connected to pop culture and were able to have related intellectual conversations. Thanks Savannah and Lee for this useful and enlightening podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    khmaddox
    United States2 months ago
  • Sharp, thought-provoking and fun!

    The dynamic between Savannah and Lee creates a curiosity that assists you formulating your own thoughts on whatever the subject matter is for that week. It’s lively. It’s relevant. It’s informative. I deeply appreciate the humility they practice both with one another but also with the content of the show. They admit their limits where they exist, share insight when they have it and keep responses compassionate but with ethical bumpers. Huge fan here and I’m always looking out for the next episod... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JenNyAgo
    United States2 months ago

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Smart, nuanced cultural analysis that avoids hot takes
Listeners appreciate the calm, respectful debates on difficult topics

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Free Speech with Jacob Mchangama Part 2
Q: What is the best argument against a principled free speech approach?
A pragmatic case suggests that some countries with long-standing democracies might justify limited speech to prevent harm or maintain social cohesion, though this risks overreach; the aim is to safeguard democratic principles while avoiding authoritarian control.
Free Speech with Jacob Mchangama Part 1
Q: What are the signs of a free speech recession and what powers drive it?
Historical optimism about universal free speech faded as digital platforms and state actors leverage information tools; the signs include rising regulatory pushbacks, platform moderation, and societal polarization.
Free Speech with Jacob Mchangama Part 1
Q: Can you talk a little about how you came to devote so much of your career to this issue?
The Copenhagen/cartoon affair in Denmark sparked a lifelong focus on how free speech interacts with religion and minority protections, leading to decades of research and public debate.
Free Speech with Jacob Mchangama Part 1
Q: So, what's your working definition for free speech?
A concise definition citing Tacitus and Spinoza: every human being has the right to think what they want and say what they think, linking natural rights to the ability to express thoughts for a diverse society.
Scandalous Witness with Lee C. Camp
Q: How should Christians engage with liberalism according to the book?
Christians should acknowledge the relative goods of liberalism, such as human rights and free speech, while also recognizing its limitations and the need to pursue the kingdom more fully than liberalism alone permits.

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Frequently Asked Questions About The Subtext

What is The Subtext about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A thoughtful culture-ethics show where Savannah Locke, a pop-culture expert, and Lee C. Camp, an ethics professor, unpack headlines and internet moments to reveal what they say about culture, faith, and online life. Episodes often blend cultural critique with theology and moral reflection, offering nuanced takes on topics from celebrity moments to technology, media, and social issues. Noteworthy is the dynamic tension between a host who lives online and a host who lives largely offline, which tends to yield calm, rigorously argued dialogue that's accessible without sacrificing depth. Potential listeners who want reflective conversations that connect current events to bigger questions will likely find this show engaging and distinctive for i... more

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