
The only podcast created for volunteers and everyday leaders in smaller congregations, this show embraces small church ministry as a place where God is already at work. Founder of Small Church Ministry and the Small Church Network, Laurie Graham Ertl shares why small churches matter—not as a scaled-down version of something bigger, but as powerful communities with their own unique strengths. Each ... more
| Publishes | Weekly | Episodes | 232 | Founded | 5 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | Religion & SpiritualitySociety & CultureChristianity | |||

We spend a lot of time talking about pastors, church leaders, and people with titles. But what if I told you some of the most influential people in your church will never stand on a stage, lead a meeting, or sit on a board?
In this episode, we're t... more
Burnout recovery goes deeper than just taking a break.
In this episode, we’re talking about why surface-level burnout advice often isn’t enough, the deeper patterns underneath emotional exhaustion, and why so many people in ministry still feel depl... more
A lot of people in ministry feel like they’re constantly choosing who to disappoint. The church needs something. The team needs something. People want access to you. Your family needs you too.
And eventually, it starts feeling impossible to hold it... more
Burnout is real … but a lot of the time, we’re not as stuck as we think we are. We say we’re overwhelmed, but we’re still saying yes, still filling gaps, still stepping in “just this once.”
At some point, we have to get honest about where we actual... more
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So appreciate all the useful information on so many different topics that these podcasts cover. Small church leaders have such a wide range of things included in their responsibilities and this resource is priceless.
Laurie , I have learned so much from your church finance series! I am “just” a volunteer so I really didn’t think it applied to me but I’m so glad I listened. What resonated most is that Jesus is alive in my congregation and He is holding His church together the non-profit side is not as important yet it gets a lot of attention. It’s really a mindset shift that has been so welcome to me I can’t wait to share it with others. God bless you and your ministry!
I have gained so much insight, hope and encouragement from your podcasts. I just finished listening to episode 187 and was so lifted and encouraged from it. It’s sometimes difficult to see the positive in situations while your knee deep in them. Thank you!
Thank you so much Laurie for this Podcast. I was guilty of that, not I told others but I definitely thought that of others. With the help of God I will no longer think that of others and think grace and love towards them. Thank you for helping this recovering Pharisee.
I appreciate Laurie’s experience and unique perspective
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A practical, faith-driven show focused on helping volunteers and leaders in small congregations run healthier, more sustainable ministries. Episodes tackle burnout, volunteer engagement, staffing, and seasonal rhythms with actionable steps, real-world examples, and a strong emphasis on church culture, relationship-building, and Jesus-centered leadership. Noteworthy is the consistent focus on small-church realities—so resources, coaching, and events are often tailored for limited resources, with an emphasis on practical, compassionate approaches rather than quick fixes.
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