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Creative Business Real Talk

Shinah Chang
Calligraphy
Entrepreneurship
Creative Business
Creativity
Creative Entrepreneurship
Perfectionism
Business Growth
Business Coaching
Mental Health
Personal Growth
Online Courses
Mindset
Marketing
Success
Small Business
Corporate Law
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Teaching
Personal Development
Crooked Calligraphy

A weekly kick-in-the-pants to go after your creative dreams. From a former Harvard corporate lawyer who built a million-dollar calligraphy education business… and then scaled it down intentionally to create a life full of creativity and freedom. Every week, I share a tactical business lesson + powerful brain reframe that will help you get unstuck. The perfect mix of strategy and warmth that never ... more

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Mian was a burned-out, unhappy tax lawyer who had quit calligraphy — twice. She had dabbled in it as a kid after her dad bought her a calligraphy set, and again as an adult, but her confidence got the best of her. 

After adding the titles of lawyer,... more

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If feeling “behind” leads to you disappearing... your perfectionism might be quietly sabotaging your life. 

In this episode, I’m unpacking the hidden reason so many high achievers quit, disappear, or stay stuck in cycles of burnout and perfectionism... more

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Think you need to be an expert before teaching calligraphy? You don’t.

In this episode of Creative Biz Real Talk, I break down exactly how I taught a fully booked calligraphy workshop (with a waitlist!)—and how you can confidently teach your first c... more

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Calligraphy engravers are in HIGHER demand right now than ever - and you don’t have to have YEARS of experience to get paid for it!

In this episode, I’m breaking down the fastest, simplest path to landing your first paid calligraphy engraving job - ... more

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Recent Guests

Jessica Wofford
Calligrapher who works with luxury brands; built a full-time business after taking a course
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Episode: 167: Burnt-out Teacher to Luxury Calligrapher... after just one course!
Mian Barrios
Student of Shinah with a non-linear reinvention story in calligraphy
Independent calligrapher
Episode: 163: From quitting…to booking Louis Vuitton (with Mian Barrios)
Sophilia LeBlanc
A calligraphy student who turned her passion into a profitable venture
Sophilia Marcel Studios
Episode: 158: From Uncertain to Booked. $1500 from calligraphy in just 2 months
Laura Hess
Former accountant turned successful calligrapher and owner of Getrie's Calligraphy
Getrie's Calligraphy
Episode: 156: She quit accounting for calligraphy (with Student Laura Hess)
Lisa Doty
Calligrapher and business student focused on applying her skills in the calligraphy industry
Episode: 144: Ask for Trash to Get Hired (with Biz Student Lisa Doty)
LaTache Tindale
Former corporate tech employee turned calligrapher
Episode: 134: Lucrative Calligraphy Events (With LaTache Tindale)
Lisa McIntyre
A calligraphy business owner and English teacher in South Korea
Self-employed
Episode: 132: Calligraphy Biz In Korea (With Lisa MacIntyre)
Priscilla Basileo
Owner of Priscilla Basileo Design Studio
Episode: 126: BONUS: Student Updates You'll Love
Sher Pierre
Former teacher turned full-time calligrapher
Episode: 125: What it Really Takes to go Full-Time with Calligraphy

Host

Shinah Crooked Calligraphy
Host of the show and founder of Crooked Calligraphy; provides tactical business lessons and mindset reframes for creatives.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 257 ratings
  • Optimistic

    I’ve been following Shinah since the beginning and she is so inspiring. As an art teacher, this episode of Creative Business Real Talk really stayed with me.

    It reminded me how often we (and our students) wait to feel “ready” before creating, when in reality, growth happens through the doing. That message of not needing to wait felt just as important for my classroom as it did for my own creative journey.

    Such a good reminder to keep showing up, imperfectly and honestly.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SunflowersCalligraphy
    United States25 days ago
  • So grateful for this show!

    Love Shinah’s awesome blend of “I know where you’ve been” empathy and her savvy business growth acumen! Thank you for showing us what is possible!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Smitty Smittz
    United States3 months ago
  • Right episode at the right time

    I just played the moving goal post episode by chance and it was so timely for me hear that content. What Shinah shares is so honest and relatable and they always boost my mood.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Rzoo.sh12
    United States7 months ago
  • So good

    Thanks Shinah for helping us focus on the big picture. It’s so key for us with a corporate job and kids.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pauline Emilie
    United Statesa year ago
  • Shinah keeps my motivation going

    I love listening to Shinah’s podcast because it make me fall I love with calligraphy all over again and I’m motivated to be more creative. Thank you Shinah

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    onetiredmama
    United States2 years ago

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167: Burnt-out Teacher to Luxury Calligrapher... after just one course!
Q: What would you tell your past self who was still a teacher and considering spending money on yourself and your craft?
She would tell herself to test the worth of the investment, be willing to risk losing the money if it fails, but be hopeful that if it works, it would create a whole new life and prove that what once seemed impossible is achievable.
166: $10K In 2 Years - An Update With Crooked Calligraphy Alum Danielle Williams
Q: What tactics helped you land high-profile brand engagements?
I started by putting myself out there, reaching out to agencies and planners, showing my work in person and online, and strategically targeting brands; this built credibility and opened doors to engagements with Nordstrom, Macy's, Coty Fragrances, and Dior.
166: $10K In 2 Years - An Update With Crooked Calligraphy Alum Danielle Williams
Q: What prompted you to invest in Modern Calligraphy 201 and how did it affect your business?
Investing in Modern Calligraphy 201 helped me develop my own distinct style, build confidence, and figure out what works for me, leading to a substantial increase in client work and revenue.
161 - How To Build a Creative Portfolio That Actually Gets You Clients
Q: How many photos do I include?
Start with three to five services and include a few examples under each to avoid choice overload.
161 - How To Build a Creative Portfolio That Actually Gets You Clients
Q: What do I include in my portfolio?
Include only projects you want to continue doing, rather than everything you have done.

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A practical, growth-focused show for creatives turning passion into a sustainable business. Episodes center on building client pipelines, positioning for corporate and brand work, and practical branding and marketing tactics, all delivered with a candid, coaching-style vibe. The host often blends mindset shifts with concrete steps—covering outreach, portfolio development, pricing, and leveraging education or courses to scale. A standout element is the emphasis on authentic, relationship-driven growth rather than hard sells, plus occasional deep dives into how creativity intersects with law, branding, and personal freedom. Listeners likely appreciate actionable playbooks, real-life case studies, and motivational storytelling that encourages ... more

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2. Mian Barrios
3. Sophilia LeBlanc
4. Laura Hess
5. Lisa Doty
6. LaTache Tindale
7. Lisa McIntyre
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