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The Pilot Money Guys are a group of financial planners with a passion for bringing together financial planning and the commercial airline industry. Brought to you by a team of financial planners with backgrounds flying for major US airlines and military service. If you have questions about personal finance with an interest in news and interesting stories from the airlines, then we hope you will gi... more

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When headlines are shouting about AI, market highs, and economic uncertainty, how do you know what deserves your attention and what is simply noise? In this episode, we unpack listener questions that many investors are quietly asking. Listen in as we... more

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What can eight months in a North Vietnamese prison camp teach you about hope, courage and putting the rest of life into perspective? Former Navy pilot and Vietnam POW Mike Penn shares the extraordinary story behind his book, Hope and Courage, from th... more

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What if the index fund you thought was simple was actually shaped by a complex set of rules, decisions, and trade-offs? In this episode, we sit down with Rob Harvey, Co-Head of Product Specialists and Vice President at Dimensional Fund Advisors, to u... more

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Mike Penn
Former POW, author of Hope and Courage
Navy aviation, author
Episode: Flight #138: Hope, Courage and a Different Perspective on Life with Mike Penn
Rob Harvey
Co-head of Product Specialists at Dimensional Fund Advisors; VP; CFA
Dimensional Fund Advisors
Episode: Flight #137: Indexing 101 with DFA Rob Harvey
Eric Hubbard
Special guest; newest member of Leading Edge team
Leading Edge Financial Planning
Episode: Flight #136: How Much is Enough? with Eric Hubbard
Dr. Jay Jay Billings
CEO and co-founder of Band Gap AI, principal applied scientist
Band Gap AI
Episode: Flight #135: The Truth About AI: What It Can (and Can't) Do for Your Future with Dr. Jay Jay Billings
Jonathan Groover
Financial planner joining Leading Edge Financial Planning
Leading Edge Financial Planning
Episode: Flight #133: 7 Money Moves That Can Help, Hurt, or Trap You
Amelie Riendl
Accredited Financial Counselor (AFC)
Episode: Flight #132: Blessing or Curse? How to Ensure Your Financial Gifts Help Without Hurting
Kevin Gormley
Professor, tax expert
Leading Edge Financial Planning
Episode: Flight #131: Do You Really Need an LLC? Tax Myths, Red Flags, and Business Structure Explained
Bailey Alamone
CPA, tax advisor
Leading Edge Financial Planning
Episode: Flight #131: Do You Really Need an LLC? Tax Myths, Red Flags, and Business Structure Explained
Danielle Lewis
Airline pilot, founder of Village Hope
Village Hope
Episode: Flight #130: Help Looks Different for Everyone with Danielle Lewis

Hosts

Charlie Mattingly
Lead host; long-time aviation financial planner with Leading Edge Financial Planning; primary voice and forum moderator.
Andy Christopher
Co-host; Chief Investment Officer or related senior role with Leading Edge Financial Planning; recurring co-host.
Kevin Gormley
Co-host; professor-type tax expert providing tax guidance for pilots and LLC structures.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 63 ratings
  • Good overall advice

    I listen to several podcasts on finance and money advice and this podcast has a balance approach with action steps and things to consider for your situation. The recent podcast on how to handle sharing money with kids and family is something I’m dealing with as I’m updating my estate planning and looking for ways to bless my kids and family with money and it not be a burden.

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    5
    AAirborn
    United States4 months ago
  • Honest company

    I enjoy their information and find it to be specific to pilot concerns. They’re very responsive to questions, and I was impressed when I approached them and took advantage of the chance to get a free call—they were completely honest and said I didn’t need their services, since I was already doing what they’d tell me to do and on track. Most folks would’ve just taken my money, but they answered a couple questions and told me they were there if I ever wanted. THAT is a company I’ll work with if th... more

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    5
    Ginathisnicknamenottaken
    United States6 months ago
  • Outstanding

    Trusted these folks for years with my money. They understand the pilot financial situation with-respect-to contract, benefits, insurance, etc. It’s been great to find someone who I can trust with this, so that I can focus on other things in this short life. Highly recommend!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cosmo457
    United States6 months ago
  • Entertaining and meaningful perspectives

    I’m definitely enjoying the airline and military pilot perspective on the financial landscape.

    As the major airlines and cargo carriers are achieving new contracts, many pilots are realizing the opportunity to use a market based cash balance plan. It’d be great if you all could do a podcast discussing how they work, what the benefits are, and who ought to opt in to a MBCBP.

    Thanks for all you do.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    J Stouffer
    United States3 years ago
  • 1 & Done… These guys, they’re a JOKE!

    Just listened to my 1st episode. It’ll be my last. These guys share little to no financial knowledge or insight. They have obviously done little to no research on the financial vehicles they discuss. It’s so frustrating, they’re obviously “mailing it in” in an attempt to capture business. I would never in a million years trust their advice.

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    Chris - DFW International
    United States3 years ago

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Guests often bring depth across finance and aviation topics, with strong appreciation for real-world applicability.
Listeners appreciate practical, down-to-earth finance advice tailored to pilots.
The show is praised for balancing humor with rigorous financial concepts, making complex ideas approachable.

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Flight #138: Hope, Courage and a Different Perspective on Life with Mike Penn
Q: What was that transition like as you went from being eight months a POW to reintegrating back into life and the squadron?
The reintegration happened quickly once I was back in a flying environment, but the deeper adjustment involved confronting trauma, managing PTSD, and embracing vulnerability instead of the Superman complex I had internalized. My XO's leadership and the camaraderie of the team helped me rediscover purpose and rejoin the fleet with humility and renewed commitment to service.
Flight #138: Hope, Courage and a Different Perspective on Life with Mike Penn
Q: But Mike, can you talk to us about just that infamous day now, as far as when you ended up in the Hanoi Hilton in North Vietnam?
I was shot down during a dangerous mission, the jet was critically damaged, and after a series of evasive actions and a fatal sequence of events, I landed in enemy territory. I faced capture, endured brutal treatment, and prepared mentally for whatever lay ahead, clinging to the idea that hope would sustain me through whatever happened next.
Flight #127: Cutting Through the Financial Noise: Inflation, Energy, Bitcoin, and the Global Economy with James Angel
Q: How might stable coins interact with existing financial systems and regulations?
Stable coins create a new payment rail that could improve cross-border and online payments, but regulation is still evolving, including debates over whether issuers should be regulated like banks or securities, and how much interest they can pay.
Flight #127: Cutting Through the Financial Noise: Inflation, Energy, Bitcoin, and the Global Economy with James Angel
Q: What exactly is a stable coin, in layman's terms?
A stable coin is a digital dollar-like asset that you can transfer instantly around the world, serving as a convenient way to hold dollars in crypto form while leveraging a supposed dollar backing, with regulatory questions about how safe that backing really is.
Flight #128: Master Your Money Mindset for Long-Term Wealth with Jason Moore
Q: What practical steps can a pilot take to start changing money habits today?
Create three-stage buying rules, automate savings, run regular debriefs on net worth and budget, and build a trusted team while maintaining accountability and verification to prevent overreliance on any single advisor.

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What is The Pilot Money Guys about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show blends aviation insights with practical personal finance, targeted at high-earning professionals like airline pilots and financial planners. Episodes thread together market awareness, retirement strategies, tax planning, and behavioral money psychology with aviation-specific examples, often featuring guest experts. Listeners likely value disciplined, action-oriented advice and enjoy approachable, down-to-earth conversations that connect flying careers to real-world wealth management. A standout angle is marrying technical financial topics with aviation experiences, plus guest perspectives from academia, industry, and social impact, which can broaden appeal beyond pilots to anyone interested in prudent wealth building tied to a high... more

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2. Rob Harvey
3. Eric Hubbard
4. Dr. Jay Jay Billings
5. Jonathan Groover
6. Amelie Riendl
7. Kevin Gormley
8. Bailey Alamone

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