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21.FIVE - Professional Pilots Podcast

21Five Podcast
Business Aviation
Aviation
Southwest Airlines
Financial Planning
Aviation Safety
Flight Training
Pilot Training
Aviation Industry
Aviation Training
Airlines
Professional Pilots
Air Traffic Control
Pilot Compensation
Airline Industry
Aircomp Calculator
Pilot Hiring Trends
ACMI
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Flight Operations
Artificial Intelligence

A podcast for Professional Pilots, by Professional Pilots. Join hosts Dylan and Max, both professional pilots with backgrounds in Flight Instructing, Airlines, and Business Aviation, on their quest to improve as travelers, pilots, and professionals. Expect to find interesting conversations with industry experts in a variety of aviation fields, thought-provoking discussions on hot topics, and hilar... more

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Latest Episodes

Dylan and Max talk Alaska dreams, Southwest's new nonstop to Anchorage, lake lodge podcast fantasies, and Max's brave decision to bypass the discounted Marriott burger for Yemeni cuisine. In the Mailbag, listener Elijah checks in with a unique path b... more

Timothy P. Pope joins Dylan and Max to talk through the financial side of Spirit's shutdown and what professional pilots can learn from it. For airline and bizav pilots, the big takeaway is simple but not always fun: stabilize first, optimize later. ... more

Dylan and Max kick things off with DoubleTree cookie restraint, San Diego seafood, 40-plus Vegas strategy, DJ juice, and the emerging menace of the commuter life vest. In the Mailbag, listeners bring dumpster-diving charter pilot stories, bankruptcy ... more

James Onieal from Raven Career Development joins Dylan and Max to unpack Spirit Airlines' wind down and what it means for Spirit pilots, regional pilots, CFIs, and anyone trying to move up the aviation ladder. The conversation gets into why experienc... more

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Recent Guests

Timothy Pope
Financial advisor to Professional Pilots, hosts Pilots Portfolio
Pilots Portfolio / Professional Pilots
Episode: 210. What Should Pilots Do When the Paycheck Stops?
Kyle Freiberger
President of First Class Leaders
First Class Leaders
Episode: 206. Is your leadership style actually just manipulation?
Mike Sferrazza
Director of Training and Strategy, First Class Leaders
First Class Leaders
Episode: 206. Is your leadership style actually just manipulation?
Juan Browne
Creator of Blancolirio YouTube channel, aviation commentator
Blancolirio
Episode: 204. What Can We Learn Before the Final Report Arrives?
Dan Boedigheimer
Subject matter expert on aviation safety topics
Advanced Aircrew Academy
Episode: 201. Why Are Wrong-Airport Landings Still Happening?
Brian Small
Director of Regulatory Affairs for Flight Safety
Flight Safety
Episode: 193. Can One Industry-Wide SOP Manual Raise the Bar for Business Aviation?
Tim Schoenauer
Senior Director of Global Training Solutions at CAE
CAE
Episode: 193. Can One Industry-Wide SOP Manual Raise the Bar for Business Aviation?
Captain Benny
Pilot influencer known for his humorous takes on aviation culture
Fly, Benny Fly
Episode: 184. How Do You Stay Resilient After Career Setbacks? w/ Capt Benny
Jenny Showalter
Speaker, career change expert and aviation professional.
Episode: 182. When the Flight Department's Broken, Do You Stay or Go?

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 582 ratings
  • New Sticker Idea

    I think you’ve found your next sticker idea: „Wake up wrecked in the Hilton somewhere!“ - The 21.5 Show.

    Love the show, been listening for a long time now. I recommend it to all the aspiring pilots I work with or speak with. From student pilots to guys like me trying go from Marine Corps V22s (Shout out to Dan mentioned in a previous episode) to the Majors. Keep up the great work guys! Always informative and entertaining. „Fake it ‚til you make it!“ Semper Fidelis. Mark.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Noswet261
    United States21 days ago
  • Top of the heap

    Best aviation podcast out there at the moment. Nice work guys. Us pro pilots enjoy your perspective and relevant humor. James “right” O’Neal tho. Maybe jettison him. Dude is impossible to listen to. Otherwise, Great job fellas. Love the show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Crazy192837
    United Statesa month ago
  • Awesome podcast!

    Funny, informative and insightful. By far the best aviation podcast out there. As someone riding the industry wave (one day listening from the right seat at FL45,0 and the next day at home laid off) this podcast keeps me plugged in and encouraged. Listening makes me feel like it’s just another day on the flight deck…

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SRpickles71
    United Statesa month ago
  • Great podcast

    Max and Dylan do a great job covering pertinent topics while keeping it funny and light hearted.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Carson_B1
    United Statesa month ago
  • Hangar flying in the digital age - Five Stars. Definitely Recommend.

    Love the show guys. The Click and Clack brothers of Aviation.

    12 years of 137 in air tractors, and now stumbling my way into 121 in the Airbus. I found you’all just before starting initial, and couldn’t’ve made it thru without you. “Fake it ‘till you make it!”

    Possible interview recommendation… Steve Wentworth of Wentworth Aircraft Recovery in Minnisota. Experienced private pilot and story teller, he has recovered over 6,500 wrecks. Solid advice and insight such as: “friends don’t let frie... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NineRomeo
    United Statesa month ago

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Guests are described as credible and informative, with valuable industry insights.
Long-time listeners appreciate the depth of expert guests and real-world applicability.
Listeners praise practical career and financial guidance for pilots.
Audience notes positive impressions of consistency and relevance across episodes.
Show format and hosting style are entertaining and engaging, though some desire more storytelling elements.

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#4
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#119
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#14
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Apple Podcasts
#28
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#217
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#29
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

210. What Should Pilots Do When the Paycheck Stops?
Q: Can you talk a little bit about...the emergency fund and how pilots should approach stability during disruption?
Tim outlines that knowing exact monthly burn rate and trimming non-essentials creates a safety buffer, reduces anxiety, and buys time to land a new job or pivot, while keeping the family's needs met.
208. How Should Pilots Compete After Spirit's Shutdown?
Q: James, welcome to the program. Maybe just give us your initial observations about what happened this weekend.
Spirit ceased operations; the layoff and closure have broad implications for pilot employment paths, with many pilots facing uncertainty about bailouts, absorption by legacy carriers, and the need to reorient their resumes and interview approach.
198. What Does "Stay Flexible" Actually Mean for Pilot Spouses?
Q: What should a pilot spouse consider if their partner is starting a new job?
The spouse should evaluate whether to keep their job or leave it for the pilot's career, considering the potential for commuting and how that impacts their quality of life and family dynamics.
198. What Does "Stay Flexible" Actually Mean for Pilot Spouses?
Q: What does it mean to stay flexible as a pilot spouse?
Staying flexible means adapting to the unpredictable schedule of the pilot, especially when it can vary significantly based on seniority and operational demands.
197. What's Changing with Airline Pilot Retirement in 2026?
Q: When should one engage a financial advisor during their pilot career?
When they find themselves earning a solid income, realize the stakes of financial decisions are higher, or their finances are unorganized, they should consider reaching out to a professional.

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Frequently Asked Questions About 21.FIVE

What is 21.FIVE about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A long-running aviation-focused program that pairs practical career guidance with industry insights, anchored by two pilots who balance hands-on experience with candid conversation. Across episodes, topics span financial planning for disruption, career navigation during industry shifts, leadership training for pilots, safety and training best practices, and realistic layover/life-work discussions. Guests range from financial advisors and career coaches to safety experts and technology innovators, often blending actionable tips with entertaining storytelling. A notable strength is mixing high-value, applicable advice (networking, interviews, contracts, retirement planning) with relatable, humorous banter and real-world anecdotes that keep co... more

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1. Timothy Pope
2. Kyle Freiberger
3. Mike Sferrazza
4. Juan Browne
5. Dan Boedigheimer
6. Brian Small
7. Tim Schoenauer
8. Captain Benny

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