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The SWAPA Number

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Southwest Airlines
Collective Bargaining Agreement
Contract 2020
401k
CBA
Aviation
FAA
Profit Sharing
Scheduling
Vacation Bidding
Contract Administration
Nashville
Mental Health
Retirement Accounts
Long-Term Disability
Market-Based Cash Balance Plan
Open Enrollment
SWAPA App
Contract AI

In each podcast we explore a number that will help us explain an issue that matters to our Pilots. This might be a scheduling metric, a Company financial number that impacts us, or anything else that has significance to us as SWAPA Pilots.

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Today's SWAPA number is 60, as in 60 million in net assets. SWAPA has spent the last three years focused on building a strong financial position as we prepare for the next negotiating cycle, which begins in just nine months.

So today we are sitting ... more

Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate and Poll series. In today's podcast, Glenn Wickline and I chat about the second week of scheduling topics with Scheduling and Analytics Committee member Steven Anders and Negotiating Committee member ... more

Welcome back to the Contract 2029 SEP series. Today's podcast covers some frequently asked questions about Schedule Planning and Execution. For a deep dive into these topics, please read the articles available on the website under the Contract 2029 t... more

Welcome back to the Contract 2029 SEP series. In today's Survey, Educate and Poll podcast, we sat down with Eric Gavin and Steven Anders from the Scheduling and Analytics Committee to discuss what responses came in during the blank sheet surveys on s... more

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Recent Guests

Hank Ketchum
SWAPA Second Vice President, Internal Audit Committee Chair
SWAPA
Episode: 60 (Budget, Hank Ketchum, Andy Rose, Nia Williams)
Andy Rose
Internal Audit Committee Chair
SWAPA
Episode: 60 (Budget, Hank Ketchum, Andy Rose, Nia Williams)
Nia Williams
Finance and Pilot Benefits Director
SWAPA
Episode: 60 (Budget, Hank Ketchum, Andy Rose, Nia Williams)
Eric Gavin
Member of Scheduling and Analytics Committee (SAC)
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Episode: Schedule Planning and Exchange | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Steven Anders
Member of Scheduling and Analytics Committee (SAC)
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA)
Episode: Schedule Planning and Exchange | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Jody Reven
President of SWAPA
SWAPA
Episode: 3 (SWAPA Execs, Jody Reven, Kevin Hornburg, Hank Ketchum)
Kevin Hornburg
Vice President of SWAPA
SWAPA
Episode: 3 (SWAPA Execs, Jody Reven, Kevin Hornburg, Hank Ketchum)
Scott Plyler
Former SAC chair, SAC member
SWAPA
Episode: 365 (SAC, Scott Plyler, Eric Gavin, Meagan Nelan)
Meagan Nelan
SAC manager
SWAPA
Episode: 365 (SAC, Scott Plyler, Eric Gavin, Meagan Nelan)

Hosts

Matt McCants
Host and Communications Committee Chair; frequent moderator and explainer of complex SWAPA topics.
Amy Robinson
Host and Co-host; leads discussions on contracts, education, and member outreach.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 234 ratings
  • Great informative podcast

    First of all thank you guys for putting this together . It is very informative and easy to digest , even for me , a slow learner :)

    Thank again

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mr Husky
    United States2 years ago
  • Keep them coming!

    Great information and insight into a process that is foreign to a lot of us but will deeply impact all our lives going forward!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Smith12345678912
    United States3 years ago
  • Luv it!

    Excellent episode! Very funny! Love Amy’s F-bomb rant. Kirk and Amy are great they way they feed off each other.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Privateaviator
    United States4 years ago
  • Thanks

    Appreciate everyone’s work on these

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Capsmooth82
    United States4 years ago
  • Lots of great information

    Thanks for doing these, especially as often as you do. I learn so much from every presentation. It helps me to be an informed union member.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Phat Pat7
    United States5 years ago

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Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Guests and hosts are praised for clarity and engaging discussions on complex topics.
Greatly value data-driven updates and transparency in negotiations.
Listeners find episodes informative and accessible, with practical guidance on contracts and benefits.

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Schedule Planning and Exchange | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Q: How would domicile-specific needs be addressed in the contract?
They discuss flexible language that allows domicile-specific adjustments seasonally, with safeguards so that changes aren't locked in and can adapt as bases grow or shrink.
Schedule Planning and Exchange | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Q: What would be the scope of SWAPA's involvement—pairings, lines, or both?
The members indicate it would be decided by membership polling, and they'd propose multiple options in education materials; initial consensus suggests aiming for at least pairing control, with potential path to lines, depending on the membership decision.
365 (SAC, Scott Plyler, Eric Gavin, Meagan Nelan)
Q: How have vacation rules changed the scheduling landscape for both senior and junior pilots?
Vacation shifts allow weekdays to replace weekend lines for seniors and vice versa for juniors, improving overall overlap, pay, and quality of life, with caveats around holiday periods and ongoing monitoring of cost and scheduling balance.
365 (SAC, Scott Plyler, Eric Gavin, Meagan Nelan)
Q: What has been the biggest practical impact of Contract 2020 on scheduling tools like Open Time and ELIT?
Open Time Priority has become more user-driven and predictable with automated systems, increasing pilot control and LG eligibility, while ELIT has expanded trading flexibility through Reserve ELIT and direct drops, though it requires ongoing adjustments and education.
10 (Executive Town Hall)
Q: What is the plan to fix ELECT and why did Baltimore see negative numbers at ELIT opening?
The issue is driven more by inventory levels and vacation overlap than red-eye domicile days; once vacations and inventory normalize and red-eye reserves come online, the negative impact should lessen.

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The show concentrates on SWAPA-related topics, frequently revolving around contract negotiations, benefits, scheduling, safety, and IT initiatives. Episodes blend practical guidance for pilots with strategic discussions led by union leaders, committee chairs, and industry experts, often comparing SWAPA's framework to broader aviation trends. A standout angle is the frequent inclusion of data-driven updates, polling, and clear explanations of policy changes, making complex contract language accessible and actionable for members and potential guests alike.

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2. Andy Rose
3. Nia Williams
4. Eric Gavin
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6. Jody Reven
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8. Scott Plyler

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