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The SWAPA Number

SWAPA
Swapa
Southwest Airlines
Collective Bargaining Agreement
Contract 2020
401K
CBA
Aviation
FAA
Scheduling
Vacation Bidding
Contract Administration
Nashville
Mental Health
Retirement Accounts
Long-Term Disability
Profit Sharing
Open Enrollment
SWAPA App
Contract AI
Market-Based Cash Balance Plan

In each podcast we explore a number that will help us explain an issue that matters to our Pilots. This might be a scheduling metric, a Company financial number that impacts us, or anything else that has significance to us as SWAPA Pilots.

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Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate and Poll series. I'm Tony Mulhare with SWAPA Communications, and today I'm joined by negotiating committee chair Kurt Heidemann, as well as committee member Jacob Thomas. Today's discussion will focus... more

In this episode of the Contract 2029 Survey, Educate, and Poll Series, host Tony Mulhare is joined by Tony Caparella, Debi Shields, Damian Jennette, and retiring SWAPA IT Director Will Young. The discussion focuses on retirement and benefits planning... more

Welcome back to the Contract 2029 Survey Education and Poll Series. Today we are relaunching the Contract 2020 TA Education podcast on Section 3: Expenses, which was originally recorded in December 2023.

Most of that conversation between NC Chair Ku... more

Today's SWAPA Number is 3, as in the 3 step technique that Professional Standards recommends using for conflict resolution out on the line. Listen in to find out what that technique is and how to use it.

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Recent Guests

Jon Ross
Captain, chair of the Professional Standards Committee
Southwest Airlines
Episode: 3 (Professional Standards, Jon Ross)
Dave Kudish
Contract Admin Committee Chair
SWAPA
Episode: 10 (Executive Town Hall)
Megan Nealon
Manager
SWAPA
Episode: 10 (Executive Town Hall)
Eric Schnitzler
EFA Committee member
SWAPA
Episode: 10 (Executive Town Hall)
Jody Revin
President of SWAPA
SWAPA
Episode: 10 (Executive Town Hall)
Kevin Hornberg
Vice President of SWAPA
SWAPA
Episode: 10 (Executive Town Hall)
Kurt Heidemann
Negotiating Committee Chair
SWAPA
Episode: Sick Leave and Sick Bank Buyback | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Tony Caparella
Benefits committee pilot
SWAPA Benefits Committee
Episode: Benefits and Leaves | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Brent Wiesner
Benefits committee pilot
SWAPA Benefits Committee
Episode: Benefits and Leaves | Contract 2029 SEP Education

Hosts

Matt McCants
Host and Communications Committee Chair; frequent moderator and explainer of complex SWAPA topics.
Amy Robinson
Host and Co-host; leads discussions on contracts, education, and member outreach.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 232 ratings
  • Great informative podcast

    First of all thank you guys for putting this together . It is very informative and easy to digest , even for me , a slow learner :)

    Thank again

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mr Husky
    United States2 years ago
  • Keep them coming!

    Great information and insight into a process that is foreign to a lot of us but will deeply impact all our lives going forward!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Smith12345678912
    United States3 years ago
  • Luv it!

    Excellent episode! Very funny! Love Amy’s F-bomb rant. Kirk and Amy are great they way they feed off each other.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Privateaviator
    United States3 years ago
  • Thanks

    Appreciate everyone’s work on these

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Capsmooth82
    United States3 years ago
  • Lots of great information

    Thanks for doing these, especially as often as you do. I learn so much from every presentation. It helps me to be an informed union member.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Phat Pat7
    United States5 years ago

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Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Guests and hosts are praised for clarity and engaging discussions on complex topics.
Greatly value data-driven updates and transparency in negotiations.
Listeners find episodes informative and accessible, with practical guidance on contracts and benefits.

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

10 (Executive Town Hall)
Q: What is the plan to fix ELECT and why did Baltimore see negative numbers at ELIT opening?
The issue is driven more by inventory levels and vacation overlap than red-eye domicile days; once vacations and inventory normalize and red-eye reserves come online, the negative impact should lessen.
3 (Professional Standards, Jon Ross)
Q: What is the Me-We-You framework and how should pilots use it in a tough pairing?
Me-We-You is a three-phase approach: start with self-communication to explain how a change would help you, then have a respectful conversation to address team issues, and finally escalate to safety-based actions if the problem persists.
3 (Professional Standards, Jon Ross)
Q: What does your committee do, and why is it important for the membership?
The committee focuses on making flights safer and more professional by taking care of each other, mediating conflicts at the lowest level, and protecting crew cohesion to support safety and performance.
Scope and Section 1 FAQs | Contract 2029 SEP Education
Q: What is scope and why is it important?
Scope defines who can fly Southwest aircraft and passengers, protecting jobs by limiting outsourcing and ensuring the core brand flying remains on the Southwest pilots' seniority list.
14% (401K, Mike Haynes, Kevin Sheth)
Q: What happens to the Roth catch up money if they don't choose an investment?
It will default to the capital group target date retirement fund closest to your retirement age of 65.

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The show concentrates on SWAPA-related topics, frequently revolving around contract negotiations, benefits, scheduling, safety, and IT initiatives. Episodes blend practical guidance for pilots with strategic discussions led by union leaders, committee chairs, and industry experts, often comparing SWAPA's framework to broader aviation trends. A standout angle is the frequent inclusion of data-driven updates, polling, and clear explanations of policy changes, making complex contract language accessible and actionable for members and potential guests alike.

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