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Welcome to "The Convocation Unscripted," a free-wheeling conversation between Diana Butler Bass, Kristin Du Mez, Robert P. Jones, and Jemar Tisby. We are each scholars (three historians and one sociologist) who write about religion and its intersection with culture, history, and politics in America. We also each take our own Christian faith seriously and are deeply concerned about the future of bo... more

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Did you miss Steven Miller’s chilling speech at a recent counter-terrorism conference with European officials in Washington, where he evokes Nazi tropes abt the deformed physical appearance of his political enemies? The Convocation Unscripted team un... more

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ICE has killed two more innocent people in our streets. Despite public outcry, ICE continues to kill while wearing masks and not wearing body cams. We cannot be numb to this reality--that our own government is killing people with impunity. If we care... more

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This week, we reflect on the anticlimactic America250 celebrations in Washington, DC, and around the country. We also talked about the tragic, suspicious death of African American 18-year-old Nolan Xavier Wells, whose body was found after he disappea... more

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This week, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld President Trump’s order to remove Temporary Protected Status from hundreds of thousands of Haitian and Syrian immigrants. The lead opinion, written by Justice Alito, declared that Trump’s derogatory language a... more

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A Lutheran pastor, columnist for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and author of 'Red State Christians' and 'Disciples of White Jesus'.
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Author of 'Money, Lies, and God,' a critical examination of the anti-democratic movement.
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Jemar Tisby
Host and scholar focusing on religion, race, and democracy; central voice across episodes.
Kristin Du Mez
Co-host and historian; contributes critical perspectives on Christianity and culture.
Robert P. Jones
Co-host; director of Public Religion Research Institute and scholar on religion and public life.
Diana Butler Bass
Co-host; author and scholar examining religion, culture, and democracy.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 95 ratings
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    Re. “Affordability” — My adult children don’t see a future for their children. It’s heartbreaking.

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    SallyCB
    United States2 months ago
  • Soul Giving

    This podcast is exactly what my brain and heart need at this time in our world. Really appreciate the thoughtful and informed discussions. Thank you!

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    5
    AKSauls
    United States9 months ago
  • Nonviolence

    Listening to you this morning as we continue to “Keep Steppin “ Thank you for your impeccable civil discourse…all of you bring me hope. If you are unaware of the work of Father John Dear,may I suggest his work on Nonviolence…He runs the Beatitudes Center in California and is a powerful voice for these times…Fr. Dan Berrigan was a mentor of his,they shared jail time together.

    With you in Spirit!

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    Tyger Toni
    United Statesa year ago
  • Depravity in DC

    As I listened to the recent Convocation, it occurred to me that the current administration (read “regime”) is acting out the shadow side of the United States. All of last week’s reflections from the Center for Action and Contemplation were about how and why our shadow selves are formed. They operate in individuals as well as collectives. The persona that America puts forward has a dark side that has now come to the fore. It’s a revelation.

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    SallyCB
    United Statesa year ago
  • So helpful!

    Really helpful conversations by very intelligent and informed people who think from a Biblical perspective.

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    Muskegon Listener
    United Statesa year ago

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Civil, rigorous debate on sensitive topics with a humane lens.
Deep dives into current events framed by historical context.
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Q: How should educators and communities respond to Christian nationalist efforts influencing curricula?
PEN America and other watchdogs are tracking changes; advocate for accurate history, resist indoctrination, and push for inclusive perspectives in public schooling through organized, local action.
TCU+Live: Your Questions on Religion and Politics Answered
Q: With the Department of War's reclassification affecting religious affiliations, what is the church's responsibility to people whose faith got erased?
Raise awareness, speak out, and coordinate with denominational leaders to resist these changes; pursue practical steps like coalition-building across denominations and engaging evangelical communities to oppose the erasure.
TCU+LIVE: Pete Hegseth's Christian Nationalism and the War in Iran
Q: What are your initial reactions to waking up to news of an unapproved war?
There is a mix of shock and concern about the human costs, with emphasis on the lack of congressional approval and the long-term consequences for regional stability and global security.
The Most Important 2025 Election Result: A Reminder that an Authoritarian Future is Not Inevitable
Q: What are you seeing in the numbers? What numbers strike you as particularly promising?
While almost all of Harris' voters voted Democrat, 7% of Trump voters also voted Democrat, indicating a shift that could be significant.
The Good News Episode: Defenders of Democracy are Finding Their Footing
Q: Why ought this rollback of the Voting Rights Act matter to us from a faith perspective?
From a faith perspective, it matters because it is tied to the dignity and worth of every human being and reflects a broader theological principle.

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A high-signal, multi-voice forum where four scholars—two historians, one sociologist, and a religion scholar—discuss how religion intersects with democracy, culture, and current events in the U.S. Episodes blend rigorous historical and social-science reasoning with personal reflections, live Q&A, and calls to civic engagement. Central themes include Christian nationalism, democratic norms, misinformation, media literacy, and the role of churches and faith communities in public life. Notable strengths include a principled, collaborative critique of political-religious power and practical ideas for grassroots action, making it especially useful for listeners who want thoughtful, evidence-based perspectives on religion, politics, and society. ... more

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