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Welcome to "The Convocation Unscripted," a free-wheeling conversation between Diana Butler Bass, Kristin Du Mez, Robert P. Jones, and Jemar Tisby. We are each scholars (three historians and one sociologist) who write about religion and its intersection with culture, history, and politics in America. We also each take our own Christian faith seriously and are deeply concerned about the future of bo... more

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On this episode, the Convocation team talks about the large new survey by that demonstrates that most Americans want a more humane approach to immigration policy and do not support indiscriminate mass deportation, the construction of concentration ca... more

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On this episode we talk about the recent bombshell story from the New York Times, “Cesar Chavez, a Civil Rights Icon, Is Accused of Abusing Girls for Years.” We note that these stories of men abusing women and children cut across ideology and reflect... more

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This week, we open the conversation with reflections on the challenges of living daily life amid the onslaught of horrific news, so often these days instigated by our own government. We reflect on normalcy—focusing on daily tasks of caring for family... more

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In this TCU+LIVE conversation, we covered a lot of ground. We opened with the significance of Trump’s falling favorability numbers in a brand new survey, especially among white non-evangelical Protestants and Latino Protestants. We also talked about ... more

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Angela Denker
A Lutheran pastor, columnist for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and author of 'Red State Christians' and 'Disciples of White Jesus'.
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Episode: Minneapolis Clergy Standing with Immigrants against ICE, Featuring Rev. Angela Denker
Katherine Stewart
Author of 'Money, Lies, and God,' a critical examination of the anti-democratic movement.
Episode: Money, Lies, and God

Hosts

Jemar Tisby
Host with a focus on the intersections of race, religion, and politics, providing critical insights into American democracy and culture.
Diana Butler Bass
Scholar and author known for her work on American religion and culture, emphasizing the values of democracy and community.
Kristin Du Mez
Historian specializing in religion and gender, known for her insightful analysis of Evangelicalism in America.
Robert P. Jones
Sociologist focused on the role of religion in society and culture, advocating for a more inclusive understanding of faith.

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 87 ratings
  • Soul Giving

    This podcast is exactly what my brain and heart need at this time in our world. Really appreciate the thoughtful and informed discussions. Thank you!

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    5
    AKSauls
    United States6 months ago
  • Nonviolence

    Listening to you this morning as we continue to “Keep Steppin “ Thank you for your impeccable civil discourse…all of you bring me hope. If you are unaware of the work of Father John Dear,may I suggest his work on Nonviolence…He runs the Beatitudes Center in California and is a powerful voice for these times…Fr. Dan Berrigan was a mentor of his,they shared jail time together.

    With you in Spirit!

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    5
    Tyger Toni
    United States10 months ago
  • Depravity in DC

    As I listened to the recent Convocation, it occurred to me that the current administration (read “regime”) is acting out the shadow side of the United States. All of last week’s reflections from the Center for Action and Contemplation were about how and why our shadow selves are formed. They operate in individuals as well as collectives. The persona that America puts forward has a dark side that has now come to the fore. It’s a revelation.

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    5
    SallyCB
    United States10 months ago
  • So helpful!

    Really helpful conversations by very intelligent and informed people who think from a Biblical perspective.

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    5
    Muskegon Listener
    United Statesa year ago
  • Keep going

    Please keep this podcast up! I love all the data talks. I hope you guys decide to keep this going. Even if it’s bi-weekly.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    olympian at heart
    Canadaa year ago

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Reviews frequently mention the authenticity and depth of the conversations, praising the hosts for their intellectual rigor and commitment to justice.
There's a consensus that the collaborations bring hope and clarity to complex topics, often providing fresh insights on the intersection of faith, politics, and culture.
Listeners appreciate the thoughtful and informed discussions that address current societal issues from a reflective Christian perspective.

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TCU+LIVE: Pete Hegseth's Christian Nationalism and the War in Iran
Q: What are your initial reactions to waking up to news of an unapproved war?
There is a mix of shock and concern about the human costs, with emphasis on the lack of congressional approval and the long-term consequences for regional stability and global security.
The Most Important 2025 Election Result: A Reminder that an Authoritarian Future is Not Inevitable
Q: What are you seeing in the numbers? What numbers strike you as particularly promising?
While almost all of Harris' voters voted Democrat, 7% of Trump voters also voted Democrat, indicating a shift that could be significant.
The Good News Episode: Defenders of Democracy are Finding Their Footing
Q: Why ought this rollback of the Voting Rights Act matter to us from a faith perspective?
From a faith perspective, it matters because it is tied to the dignity and worth of every human being and reflects a broader theological principle.
Stuck in the Cycle of Doom and Gloom?
Q: Is it still worth engaging with ardent Trump supporters who believe things have never been better?
It's important to keep talking and sharing experiences from personal lives to open a dialogue.
Trump's State of the Union and the Season of Lent
Q: What do you think is happening in the minds of Democrats, congressional Democrats right now?
Democrats are caught in a cycle of bureaucracy and stasis, struggling to recognize the true nature of the threat from MAGA, leaving themselves vulnerable as they continue with business as usual.

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What is The Convocation Unscripted about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Conversations revolve around the intersections of Christianity, culture, and politics, offering critical insights into contemporary American societal issues. The hosts, who are scholars with backgrounds in history and sociology, emphasize the importance of faith in addressing political turmoil and the preservation of democracy. A major theme is the critique of Christian nationalism and the exploration of how religious beliefs inform and influence political narratives and civic life. Listeners can expect thoughtful discussions that unpack complex social issues while promoting hope and positive action in uncertain times. The collaborative dynamic of the hosts fosters a friendly and open environment, enriching the dialogues with diverse perspe... more

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