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Welcome to "The Convocation Unscripted," a free-wheeling conversation between Diana Butler Bass, Kristin Du Mez, Robert P. Jones, and Jemar Tisby. We are each scholars (three historians and one sociologist) who write about religion and its intersection with culture, history, and politics in America. We also each take our own Christian faith seriously and are deeply concerned about the future of bo... more

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Amid the continued visible destruction of symbolic institutions, the Convocation Unscripted team asks, “Where are the conservative patriots?” You know, those who have so loudly professed a commitment to CONSERVING not only things like our most belove... more

Twenty-Five Years Later, the Fear Is Still Running the Country

The twin towers fell twenty-five years ago, but the outrage that moment spurred is still shaping life in the U.S. and beyond.

Kristin Du Mez, Diana Butler Bass, and Robert P. Jones sit ... more

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This week, TCU came to you live across multiple platforms--via the Convocation Unscripted substack plus our own individual substack platforms. In this episode, we talk about a recent interview given by J.D. Vance in which he discusses his views of th... more

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In this TCU+LIVE episode, the Convocation Unscripted team talked about the challenges of finding rest amid the ongoing assaults on our democracy and American decency--from the $100 billion spent on the unjust and unnecessary war in Iran to $20 millio... more

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Angela Denker
A Lutheran pastor, columnist for the Minneapolis Star Tribune, and author of 'Red State Christians' and 'Disciples of White Jesus'.
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Episode: Minneapolis Clergy Standing with Immigrants against ICE, Featuring Rev. Angela Denker
Katherine Stewart
Author of 'Money, Lies, and God,' a critical examination of the anti-democratic movement.
Episode: Money, Lies, and God

Hosts

Diana Butler Bass
Co-host and contributor focused on religion, culture, and democracy; long-standing voice in The Convocation ecosystem
Kristin Du Mez
Historian and co-host, engages with gender, power, and evangelical culture
Jemar Tisby
Historian and host, studies race, religion, and democracy; frequent panelist
Robert P. Jones
Sociologist and co-host, focuses on religion, civil society, and democracy

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4.8 out of 5 stars from 100 ratings
  • Messaging

    Re. “Affordability” — My adult children don’t see a future for their children. It’s heartbreaking.

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    SallyCB
    United States4 months ago
  • Soul Giving

    This podcast is exactly what my brain and heart need at this time in our world. Really appreciate the thoughtful and informed discussions. Thank you!

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    AKSauls
    United Statesa year ago
  • Nonviolence

    Listening to you this morning as we continue to “Keep Steppin “ Thank you for your impeccable civil discourse…all of you bring me hope. If you are unaware of the work of Father John Dear,may I suggest his work on Nonviolence…He runs the Beatitudes Center in California and is a powerful voice for these times…Fr. Dan Berrigan was a mentor of his,they shared jail time together.

    With you in Spirit!

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    Tyger Toni
    United Statesa year ago
  • Depravity in DC

    As I listened to the recent Convocation, it occurred to me that the current administration (read “regime”) is acting out the shadow side of the United States. All of last week’s reflections from the Center for Action and Contemplation were about how and why our shadow selves are formed. They operate in individuals as well as collectives. The persona that America puts forward has a dark side that has now come to the fore. It’s a revelation.

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  • So helpful!

    Really helpful conversations by very intelligent and informed people who think from a Biblical perspective.

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    Muskegon Listener
    United Statesa year ago

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Timely, data-driven analysis of current events with hope-based calls to action.
Thoughtful, civically-minded discussions on faith and democracy.
Diligent, respectful handling of sensitive topics with robust historical context.
Scholarly yet accessible; strong civil discourse and diverse guest mix.

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TCU+Live: Your Questions on Religion and Politics Answered
Q: How should educators and communities respond to Christian nationalist efforts influencing curricula?
PEN America and other watchdogs are tracking changes; advocate for accurate history, resist indoctrination, and push for inclusive perspectives in public schooling through organized, local action.
TCU+Live: Your Questions on Religion and Politics Answered
Q: With the Department of War's reclassification affecting religious affiliations, what is the church's responsibility to people whose faith got erased?
Raise awareness, speak out, and coordinate with denominational leaders to resist these changes; pursue practical steps like coalition-building across denominations and engaging evangelical communities to oppose the erasure.
TCU+LIVE: Pete Hegseth's Christian Nationalism and the War in Iran
Q: What are your initial reactions to waking up to news of an unapproved war?
There is a mix of shock and concern about the human costs, with emphasis on the lack of congressional approval and the long-term consequences for regional stability and global security.
The Most Important 2025 Election Result: A Reminder that an Authoritarian Future is Not Inevitable
Q: What are you seeing in the numbers? What numbers strike you as particularly promising?
While almost all of Harris' voters voted Democrat, 7% of Trump voters also voted Democrat, indicating a shift that could be significant.
The Good News Episode: Defenders of Democracy are Finding Their Footing
Q: Why ought this rollback of the Voting Rights Act matter to us from a faith perspective?
From a faith perspective, it matters because it is tied to the dignity and worth of every human being and reflects a broader theological principle.

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A callback-heavy, intellectually rigorous discussion duoing religion, democracy, and culture through the lens of four scholars. Conversations consistently center on faith-informed civic life, democratic norms, historical memory, and the role of Christianity in American public life. Episodes frequently feature deep dives into current events, critiques of political rhetoric, and practical calls to action for churches and communities. Notable strengths include a collaborative, multi-disciplinary approach, a commitment to civil discourse, and a willingness to blend scholarly analysis with timely, action-oriented guidance for listeners.

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