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State of the Second

Gun Owners of America
Second Amendment
Forge Relations
Cakes Concealed Carry
Gundies
GOA
Guns
Ammo Squared
Firearms Training
Tiktok
Brand Storytelling
Stellar Arms
Urban Chic
Gun Owners Of America
Force Reset Selector (FRS)
Dianna Muller
Task Force 70 Foundation
Firearms Calibers
Girls Just Wanna Have Guns
California
Gunners Of America

"State of the Second isn’t your typical 2A podcast—it’s a backstage pass into the firearms industry. Hosted by Kailey Nieman and John Fahrner, we sit down with the real people behind the brands, builds, and big ideas shaping the gun world. From shop owners to social media legends, each episode dives into how they got started, what keeps them going, and what it really takes to make it in the firear... more

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This week John sits down with Anna Taylor, founder and CEO of Dean Adams, to talk about reinventing concealed carry for women. They dive into her journey from stay-at-home mom to firearms entrepreneur, the evolution of women-focused carry solutions, ... more

This week, John and Kailey sit down with Joe Farewell, former law enforcement officer, SWAT sniper team leader, competitive shooter, and Team USA gold medalist at the IPSC Rifle World Shoot.

Joe breaks down what it really takes to compete at the hig... more

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Recent Guests

Dianna Muller
Retired law enforcement officer, professional competitive shooter, Second Amendment advocate
DC Project; Women for Gun Rights
Episode: Educate, Not Legislate: The Teal Shirt Strategy Explained (ft. Dianna Muller)
Ryan Spadfore
Founder, Atrius Development Group
Atrius Development Group
Episode: The Real Purpose of the Second Amendment (ft. Atrius Development)
Tampkin Collins
Owner of Cakes Concealed Carry (women-owned brand for stylish concealed carry bags)
Cakes Concealed Carry
Episode: First Woman on the USA Overall Team (ft. Jalise Williams)
Johnny Q
Firearms content creator known for education-focused videos and gear insights
Independent creator, audience education on firearms
Episode: How he took a “Non-Gun” Audience to Guns (ft. Johnny Q)
Tamkin Collins
Owner of Cakes Concealed Carry, women-owned brand crafting chic concealed carry bags
Cakes Concealed Carry
Episode: Off-Body Carry Done Right (ft. Cakes Concealed Carry)
Clint Smith
US Marine Corps veteran, combat veteran, law enforcement officer veteran; founder of Thunder Ranch
Thunder Ranch
Episode: Pistols Are Convenience. Rifles End Fights. (ft. Clint Smith)
Scott Melton
Founder/CEO of Stellar Arms
Stellar Arms
Episode: Dana White Got THIS Rifle (ft. Stellar Arms)
Ben Stacy
From Forge Relations, guest discussing firearm industry marketing and outreach
Forge Relations
Episode: Your Content Sucks, Here’s Why (ft. Ben Stacy)
Adelina Mae
Female-only firearms instructor and founder of Girls Just Wanna Have Guns
Girls Just Wanna Have Guns
Episode: How Women Actually Carry (ft. Adelina Mae)

Hosts

John Fahrner
Co-host and industry-focused host; long-running presenter with GOA-backed content
Kailey Nieman
Co-host with a focus on brand storytelling, marketing, and women-focused discourse in the 2A space

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 46 ratings
  • One of only a handful

    State of the second is one of the most well-informed gun rights podcasts. The hosts know what they are talking about and tell it like it is.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Diller Farmz
    United States4 months ago
  • I enjoy it

    Sometimes not being a professional is a good thing. Interviews are more like conversations than a sit down talk. Makes for better listening, as well

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WP SMITH
    United States2 years ago
  • Awesome podcast and even more awesome 2A podcast

    This is my favorite 2A podcast after trying almost all of them. This one quickly rose to the top. Content, conversations and context are all awesome. Thank you for all you do for the 2A.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AbeRomano
    United States2 years ago
  • Informative and entertaining!

    I already followed GOA and supported them. But I’ve learned so much more about litigation, the industry, self defense, and the second amendment as a whole since the introduction of this podcast. I’ve enjoyed every episode, I’ve been introduced to wonderful companies in the firearms industry, and I’ve learned learned a lot about domestic abuse from the newest episode at this time with Kerry from we the female, someone I already followed and admired. I’m always anticipating the next episode. 10 ou... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    qte_contrary
    United States3 years ago

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Well-informed and candid about gun rights and industry dynamics.
A top pick for listeners seeking education on industry players and advocacy.
Conversations feel more like practical discussions than formal interviews.
Listeners praise educational depth and real-world examples across brands and training.

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Pistols Are Convenience. Rifles End Fights. (ft. Clint Smith)
Q: What do you think is missing from everyday training compared to more intensive programs?
Training should emphasize personal responsibility, threat assessment, and movement under stress; it's not just about marksmanship but the mindset and decisions you make under pressure.
Why The Basics Matter Most, Even After 30 Years of Shooting (ft. Gabby Franco)
Q: How did your background in Venezuela shape your views on the Second Amendment and gun culture in the United States?
She explains that living under socialist conditions highlighted the value of the Second Amendment as a safeguard for personal freedom and family protection, contrasting it with the restrictions that can accompany political shifts and the importance of preserving civic rights.
Off-Body Carry Done Right (ft. Cakes Concealed Carry)
Q: What motivated you to start Cakes Concealed Carry?
Tamkin explains it started as a personal need when she tried to carry off-body during her concealed carry journey and found existing options unsafe or incompatible with her lifestyle, which inspired a product designed to be stylish, discrete, and functional for daily use.
Why The Gundies Keep Growing (And Why They Keep Doing It)
Q: Why did you decide to move the Gundies to be an ongoing brand rather than a one-off event?
They want to deepen community engagement, provide more value to sponsors, attendees, and partners, and continue supporting industry growth while evolving the format to be more inclusive and entertaining.

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A backstage-pass look into the firearms industry, featuring deep-dive conversations with brand founders, instructors, and industry insiders. Across episodes, listeners hear how companies design and market innovative gun-related products, navigate regulation, and build communities around 2A advocacy. Topics frequently center on entrepreneurship in a heavily regulated space, practical training and safety, women's participation in shooting sports, storytelling and marketing in the gun world, and the evolving media and event landscape that shapes brand growth. Notable through-lines include education over sensationalism, community-driven outreach, and sponsorship ecosystems that tie brands to broader advocacy efforts and industry events.

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1. Concealed Carry Podcast - Guns | Training | Defense | CCW
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Recent guests on State of the Second include:

1. Dianna Muller
2. Ryan Spadfore
3. Tampkin Collins
4. Johnny Q
5. Tamkin Collins
6. Clint Smith
7. Scott Melton
8. Ben Stacy

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