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Dry Eye Fireside Chat

Eyes On Eyecare
Ocular Surface Disease
Dry Eye
Meibography
Biologic Therapies
Neuropathic Pain
Ocular Surface Lavage
Epiphora
Meibomian Gland Dysfunction
Preoperative Management
Rinsata
MIBO (perfluorhexyl Octane)
Neurotrophic Keratitis
Key Performance Indicators
Tear Film
Amniotic Membrane
Serum Tears
Rheumatoid Arthritis
Diabetes Mellitus Type 2
Indianapolis, United States
Oculosurface Disease

Join us for a series of cozy conversations led by host Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO and guest experts in dry eye!

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For years, artificial tears were the default recommendation for almost anyone with dry eyes. They still have an important place in treatment, but the thinking behind them has changed. As our understanding of ocular surface disease has evolved, so has... more

On this episode of Dry Eye Fireside Chat, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, is joined by Cecelia Koetting, OD, FAAO, Dipl. ABO, to discuss the role of meibography in ocular surface examinations and pearls for using it effectively in clinical practice.

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Cory Lappin, OD, MS, FAAO of the Dry Eye Center of Ohio, joins host Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO of Eye Surgeons of Indiana in Indianapolis on Dry Eye Fireside Chat to walk through a systematic, three-category approach to epiphora and share a case that en... more

Welcome back to Dry Eye Fireside Chat! In this installment, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, sits down with Andrew Zagelbaum, OD, to discuss the latest innovations in ocular surface lavage and how—and when—you can effectively utilize them within your practic... more

In this episode of Dry Eye Fireside Chat, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, and Julie McLaughlin, OD, ABO Diplomate, discuss when to consider using biologic treatments—such as amniotic membranes, cenergermin-bkbj, autologous serum tears, or platelet-rich plas... more

In this episode of Dry Eye Fireside Chat, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, and Jessica Steen, OD, FAAO, Dipl-ABO, discuss neuropathic pain management in optometry, highlighting diagnostic challenges and the importance of identifying underlying neuropathic co... more

In this episode of Dry Eye Fireside Chat, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, and Melissa Barnett, OD, FAAO, FSLS, FBCLA, discuss how to include DED assessment within a comprehensive eye exam, covering both diagnosis and treatment.

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In this episode of Dry Eye Fireside Chat, Damon Dierker, OD, FAAO, and Neel S. Vaidya, MD, MPH, MBA, discuss new approaches to diagnosing neurotrophic keratitis in everyday practice.

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Recent Guests

Mila Brujic
Colleague and guest expert in dry eye management
Episode: Role of Lubricating Therapy in Modern Dry Eye Management
Cecelia Koetting
Optometrist
University of Colorado School of Medicine, Department of Ophthalmology
Episode: Clinical Pearls for Utilizing and Interpreting Meibography in Exams
Cory Lappin
Ophthalmologist specializing in dry eye
Dry Eye Center of Ohio
Episode: A Step-By-Step Approach to Epiphora
Andrew Zagelbaum
Eye care clinician with focus on dry eye and ocular surface treatments
Phoenix, AZ (clinic unspecified)
Episode: When to Consider Ocular Surface Lavage
Julie McLaughlin
Dry Eye Specialist at Lehigh Eye Specialist
Lehigh Eye Specialist
Episode: When to Choose Between a Biologic or Traditional Therapy for Your OSD Patient
Jessica Steen
Associate Professor at NOVA Southeastern College of Optometry; practices in Southern Florida
Nova Southeastern University College of Optometry
Episode: Neuropathic Pain Management in Optometry
Melissa Barnett
Colleague of the host; world-class educator in dry eye
Thomas Street practice, Northern California
Episode: How to Identify DED in a Comprehensive Eye Exam
Neel Vaidya
Ophthalmologist at Chicago Cornea; cornea refractive specialist
Chicago Cornea
Episode: Neurotrophic Keratitis and Dry Eye
Carly Rose
Special guest, doctor with private practices (comprehensive care and dry-eye aesthetic practice)
Private practices in Cincinnati (dry eye med spa)
Episode: The Business of Dry Eye: KPIs for the Specialty Practice (or Any Practice)

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Damon Dierker
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Clinical Pearls for Utilizing and Interpreting Meibography in Exams
Q: In your clinic, when are you getting meibography baseline and how often do you repeat it?
Baseline is obtained for new cornea/ocular surface patients; follow-ups depend on progression and treatment plans, ranging from every six months to a year, with closer intervals if substantial changes are observed.
Clinical Pearls for Utilizing and Interpreting Meibography in Exams
Q: What are your pearls when you look at that and you're educating the patients?
Explain the function of oil glands first, show the meibography image to demonstrate what's happening, and be honest about prognosis and potential progression to motivate adherence to home care and planned treatments.
When to Choose Between a Biologic or Traditional Therapy for Your OSD Patient
Q: Could you share that case with us?
The patient is a 43-year-old woman with a long history of ocular surface issues including severe punctate keratitis and underlying diabetic retinopathy, where early incorporation of biologics like amniotic membrane and serum tears helped to improve corneal health and vision, despite prior treatments.
The Business of Dry Eye: KPIs for the Specialty Practice (or Any Practice)
Q: Is patient satisfaction the key metric to focus on when growing a dry-eye aesthetic practice?
The guest responds that success hinges on a combination of patient satisfaction, retention, conversion to advanced technologies, and overall patient experience, with emphasis on authentic, education-centered engagement rather than hard-sell marketing.
The Business of Dry Eye: KPIs for the Specialty Practice (or Any Practice)
Q: What surprised you the most about KPI differences between a primary care practice and a dry-eye med spa?
Carly notes that in primary care, there are long-standing industry benchmarks for almost every metric, whereas in the dry-eye med spa space there are essentially no established KPIs yet, so they're effectively creating benchmarks from scratch.

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This show centers on practical, clinical conversations among eye care professionals who specialize in dry eye and related ocular surface diseases. Across episodes, hosts and guests tackle real-world diagnosis, treatment selection, and patient management—from stepwise approaches to epiphora and comprehensive dry eye exams to the use of biologics, ocular surface lavage, and preoperative optimization. A notable throughline is the emphasis on multidisciplinary care, practical decision-making, and emerging therapies or technologies, often illustrated with case-based discussions and clinic workflow insights. The format is notably practitioner-focused, actionable, and geared toward improving outcomes in dry eye management while also exploring prac... more

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