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Payments on Fire™

Glenbrook Partners, LLC
Payments Industry
Stablecoins
Agentic Commerce
Fraud Prevention
Cross-Border Payments
Payments
Tokenization
Financial Inclusion
Instant Payment Systems
Fraud
Apple Pay
Real-Time Payments
Mastercard
Trust
Stable Coins
Visa
Fintech
Open Banking
Check Fraud
Surcharging

Podcasts from Glenbrook Partners on the latest developments in payments and fintech. Featuring interviews with opinion leaders, Glenbrook's own take on emerging technologies and industry trends, other news and views on this dynamic industry.

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Latest Episodes

In 2025, Glenbrook's Drew Edmond hosted a series on payments performance optimization - how merchants get more good transactions approved and lose fewer customers to failed payments. Since then, Drew has spent most of his time inside subscription bus... more

About a year ago, we chatted with with Tim Chiodo of UBS and Chris Kim of Capital Group about the investment side of payments. It's been a pretty volatile 12-months in the equity market since then - well-timed for Bryan Derman to welcome Tim back to ... more

As with many institutions, the European Central Bank is considering how to modernize central bank money. One way to do this is to issue a retail CBDC or central bank digital currency. This would make a digital version of central bank money available ... more

2026 is a milestone year for Glenbrook as we celebrate the 25th anniversary of the firm. We also find ourselves airing the 300th episode of our Payments on Fire podcast - founded by George Peabody in 2014, nurtured by Yvette Bohanan, and now continue... more

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Recent Guests

Timothy Chiodo
Lead analyst for payments, processors, and fintech at UBS
UBS
Episode: Episode 302 - Catching Up on the Capital Markets, with Timothy Chiodo, UBS
Nicola Branzoli
Head of Division for the Digital Euro Regulation, Research, and Technical Support at the Banca d'Italia
Banca d'Italia
Episode: Episode 301 - Casting Light on the Digital Euro, with Nicola Branzoli, Banca d'Italia
Scott McInnes
Partner at Bird & Bird
Bird & Bird
Episode: Episode 299 - The Evolving Payments Regulatory Environment in the European Union, with Scott McInnes, Bird & Bird
Duncan Douglass
Partner at Alston & Bird, payments regulation expert
Alston & Bird LLP
Episode: Episode 298 - The Patchwork of Payments Regulation in the US, with Duncan Douglass, Alston & Bird LLP
Nikhil Konduru
Chief Commercial Officer at Lithic
Lithic
Episode: Episode 297 - A New Era for Card Issuing, with Nikil Konduru, Lithic
Preston McCaskill
Chief Operating Officer at Zelle
Zelle / Early Warning Services
Episode: Episode 294 - Zelle's Evolution in the Payments Landscape, with Preston McCaskill, Early Warning Services
João Del Valle
CEO and co-founder of Ebanx
EBANX
Episode: Episode 293 - Unlocking Merchant Growth in Emerging Markets, with João Del Valle, EBANX
Blake Breathitt
Senior Vice President of Platforms and Financial Services
Adyen
Episode: Episode 291 - The Complex and Growing World of Platform Payments, with Blake Breathitt, Adyen
Keith Briscoe
Executive at the Merchant Risk Council (MRC)
Merchant Risk Council (MRC)
Episode: Episode 290 - The Evolution of VAMP and Card Network Fraud Monitoring, with Keith Briscoe, MRC, and Allan Shearer, J.P. Morgan

Hosts

Chris Uriarte
Host of Payments on Fire; Glenbrook Partners
Drew Edmond
Host of Payments on Fire

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 82 ratings
  • Awesome Podcast!!!

    Matt, hosts of the Payments on Fire podcast, highlights all aspects of payments, fintech and more in this can’t miss podcast! The hosts and expert guests offer insightful advice and information that is helpful to anyone that listens!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Clarisse Gomez
    United States6 years ago
  • Entertaining, insightful and actionable! 🙌

    Whether you’re well established as a payments innovator, or just getting started carving out a profitable niche that’s ready to grow - this is a must-listen podcast for you! George and the entire Glenbrook team do an incredible job leading conversations that cover a huge breadth of topics related to the ins and outs of building a thriving enterprise - from leaders who’ve actually experienced success themselves. Highly recommend listening and subscribing!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JoshCrist
    United States6 years ago
  • Fantastic insights and thoughts!

    Always enjoy each episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    stickywwww
    United States6 years ago
  • Eh

    Good info, but the interviewer talks over everyone and comes across rude.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    SavKeys
    United States7 years ago
  • Smart interviews

    Excellent source for learning about payments. The Glenbrook team host incredible industry leaders and guide a tight, informative dialogue.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hong Zhenglin
    United States9 years ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Consistently informative and well-produced with clear industry context
Thoughtful, deep dives into payments topics with practical takeaways for industry professionals
Some feedback mentions主持 interruptions were less favorable in a few episodes
High-quality guests and candid conversations that span regulation, technology, and market strategy

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Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Episode 302 - Catching Up on the Capital Markets, with Timothy Chiodo, UBS
Q: Can you explain the potential impact of regulatory themes like the Credit Card Competition Act on Visa and MasterCard, and how you model revenue exposure under such scenarios?
The hosts and Tim walk through modeling revenues under a bearish scenario, estimating exposure in the single-digit to low-double-digit percent ranges for Visa and MasterCard in Europe and the US, illustrating how a second network could alter revenue mix but not erase the value of the networks entirely; the focus is on bounding potential impact and strategizing around alternatives.
Episode 302 - Catching Up on the Capital Markets, with Timothy Chiodo, UBS
Q: Which areas of the merchant acquiring space look most compelling, and how do the swim lanes categorize the major players?
The discussion outlines four swim lanes—enterprise and three SMB-related channels (software platforms, online marketplaces, and partners) plus SMB direct—highlighting that software platforms and partner channels are gaining the most traction toward 2030, while SMB direct is expected to shrink as a share.
Episode 302 - Catching Up on the Capital Markets, with Timothy Chiodo, UBS
Q: But I was hoping we could just start by level setting on the investment environment that we're in, particularly for payments and fintech. How are you feeling about the performance of stocks in your large coverage universe?
Tim discusses that the UBS coverage universe has seen a mix of winners and laggards, with some names up significantly while others face headwinds from regulatory and competitive pressures; overall, valuations are influenced by growth expectations, potential regulatory changes, and the pace of adoption for new checkout and payment infrastructure.
Episode 298 - The Patchwork of Payments Regulation in the US, with Duncan Douglass, Alston & Bird LLP
Q: What should merchants consider when thinking about surcharging given the varied state laws and card network rules?
The guest emphasizes aligning with card network rules, then checking state laws, and carefully planning disclosures and risk management to avoid illegal or deceptive practices, recognizing substantial regional differences.
Episode 298 - The Patchwork of Payments Regulation in the US, with Duncan Douglass, Alston & Bird LLP
Q: Who's actually regulating payments in the US, and how does the regulatory structure differ from places like the UK or EU?
The hosts ask and the guest explains that the US relies on a patchwork of federal regulators (like OCC, Federal Reserve, FDIC, CFPB), state regulators, and network rules, with no single overarching regulator, leading to a fragmented landscape.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Payments on Fire™

What is Payments on Fire™ about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show consistently dives into the evolving payments and fintech landscape through conversations with leading practitioners, regulators, and technology providers. Recent episodes highlight regulatory developments across major regions (EU and US), the mechanics of card issuance and issuing platforms, the growth of platform payments and embedded finance, and the role of authentication, trust, and risk management in enabling faster, safer payments. Viewers also get practical takeaways on global expansion, local market strategies, and the impact of emerging constructs like agentic commerce and stablecoins on enterprise payments. The feed often pairs technical depth with real-world merchant and issuer insights, making it useful for payments l... more

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Recent guests on Payments on Fire™ include:

1. Timothy Chiodo
2. Nicola Branzoli
3. Scott McInnes
4. Duncan Douglass
5. Nikhil Konduru
6. Preston McCaskill
7. João Del Valle
8. Blake Breathitt

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