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Or So They Say ...

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Ghosts
Ghost Hunting
Capitol Building
Old Adrian Hospital
Paranormal Investigation
Holy Hill
Ladd School
Civil War
Middlegate Station
Rhode Island
Destination Fear
Washington, DC
Demon Cat
John Quincy Adams
Lincoln's Assassination
Wisconsin
Haunting
Bader Hotel
Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania
The Virginian Hotel

If local legends, lore, and laughter are your thing, tune in to our podcast where we travel small town USA, one ghostly tale at a time.

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Latest Episodes

We're feeling rejuvenated, revivified, and reinvigorated. In light of a very special anniversary coming up we feel ourselves going back to our roots. Big things are in the works, but until then, enjoy this episode out of little old Crofton, Nebraska.... more

This is a testament to never doubt yourself, or feel like you're not enough. We went into this episode out of Orofino, Idaho thinking it would be as exciting as, well, Idaho. And every time we do that, boy are we mistaken. This one takes a turn for t... more

Finally, we get to get away, even if it's just vicariously through ghost stories. Welcome to tropical Kaneohe, HI. We sure try our best on these pronunciations, but you see, we're simple folk from Indiana, and darn it if it's not a struggle. But we'r... more

Every time one of these comes around it feels like the first time in a long time. You all put up with our distracted antics each episode, and now, finally, we are bringing you an episode of nothing but distractions. We talk devastating TV shows, the ... more

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Recent Guests

Phil Chalmers
American criminal profiler, true crime writer, and host of the Where the Bodies Are Buried podcast
Phil Chalmers, The Serial Killers Experience
Episode: Ep.205 Talking with Serial Killers
Amanda Perrin
Medium who has previously spoken about the Perrin family investigation
Unspecified paranormal investigation team
Episode: Ep.201.2 The Conjuring House Pt.2
Cj Faison
Paranormal investigator featured in the episode
Paranormal Quest / ghost hunting content creator
Episode: Ep.197 The Gill House
Cole Gray
Author and local writer
Self-published author
Episode: Twin Tangent 15: Interview with Cole Gray

Hosts

Kelsey
Host of the show and one of two sisters; co-creator navigating historical and paranormal storytelling with humor.
Megan
Co-host and one of the two sisters; provides on-site narration, research depth, and lighthearted banter.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 47 ratings
  • Love this show

    I love everything about this show!

    Love hearing all the population stuff before the spooky stuff.

    Keep up the good work

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Buz Lee
    United States3 years ago
  • Great Chemistry!

    I really like this pod! The sisters have great chemistry and the stories are super interesting! I feel like so many podcasts tell the same story over and over, but I’ve never heard of most these

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MySkepticalSisterBeliver
    United States3 years ago
  • Very entertaining

    I like that they cover the historical history of a haunted place and the haunted history. The tangents are my favorite part. I also like that they are logical about things and will take all evidence into consideration when talking about if it’s haunted or not.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NoWay_JoseAngel
    United States5 years ago
  • Becoming one of my favorite pods out there! Love the tangents!

    Podcast Addict
    5
    Save Your Sorry
    5 years ago
  • A Spooky Good Time!

    Very fun and Spooky Good Time! Give it a listen if you are into all things Spooky. The twins banter is on par with the best in the game. I look forward to new episodes every week! Do yourself a favor and give it a listen you won’t regret it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    4EvaFancy
    United States5 years ago

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Audience values behind-the-scenes notes and Patreon perks as added content.
Listeners praise the chemistry between the sisters and the engaging storytelling.
Many comments note logical consideration of evidence and skepticism balanced with humor.
Fans appreciate the mix of historical context with spooky, fun moments.

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

Ep.176 Sterling Opera House
Q: What's the story behind the hauntings at the Sterling Opera House?
The opera house is rumored to be haunted by spirits, including that of its namesake, Charles Sterling, who died before its opening, and reports of a little boy's spirit playing with a ball in the balcony.
Twin Tangent 15: Interview with Cole Gray
Q: What genre do you like writing in?
Cole expresses that dark romance is her favorite genre to write, as it allows her to explore trauma and emotional connections, ensuring readers don’t feel alone in their experiences.
Twin Tangent 15: Interview with Cole Gray
Q: How long have you been writing?
Cole Gray shares her journey from wanting to be a poet, to realizing she needed to express herself through a full book, which led her to write and publish several works.

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Behind-the-marvel of small-town legends comes a warmly bantering duo that blends archival history with modern paranormal investigations. Each episode foregrounds a local haunted site or historical institution, weaving in context about its origins, notable residents, and the ghosts of its past with on-site observations and EVP-style storytelling. While the tone stays light and playful, thoughtful threads about research rigor, ethics, and community engagement run through the conversations, with frequent Patreon notes and plans for future travel. It's especially engaging for listeners who love a mix of history, spooky lore, personality-driven banter, and DIY field investigations.

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