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Off the Record with Brian Murphy

Brian Murphy
Artificial Intelligence
Medicare Advantage
Outpatient CDI
Value-Based Care
HCC
Clinical Documentation Integrity
Risk Adjustment
Revenue Cycle
Healthcare
CMS
Chicas Abroad
Chatgpt
Mentorship
Hospital Quality
Brian Murphy
Kaiser Permanente
Ambience
False Claims Act
Whistleblower Partners LLP
Downgrading / Down Coding

The only show where today’s top mid-revenue cycle leaders share the personal stories, struggles, and successes that you won’t hear on the big stage—but made them who they are today. Join host Brian Murphy as he interviews leaders and interesting personalities from HIM/coding, clinical documentation integrity (CDI), case management, and related healthcare fields about their origins, current challen... more

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At ACDIS 2026 I delivered an unofficial episode of Off the Record with my guest today: Tracy Ferro, Executive Director, System CDI for Medical University of South Carolina Health (MUSC).

The “podcast” was delivered on stage, at the outpatient sympo... more

This country does a decent job in our primary schools working with children and young adults with special needs. Certainly many improvements have been made in the last 40-50 years.

But once neurodivergent kids become adults, that support seems to v... more

A lot has changed in the world of Faisal Hussain since he last went under the white-hot spotlight of the Off the Record podcast studios.

A new career path, with a new company.

Growing children, with whom he gets to spend more time.

A surprise a... more

We need a “human in the loop” in mid-revenue cycle work, experts say.

What they fail to answer is the more interesting question:

Where in the loop, exactly?

Back-end AI fact-checker? Front-end query authorizer? Or, maybe something like my curren... more

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Tami Gomez
Executive Director of HIM, Coding and CDI, UC Davis Neurodiversity Coding Internship Program
UC Davis MIND Institute / UC Davis Health
Episode: Different Minds, Extraordinary Strengths: The UC Davis Coding Internship Story
Faisal Hussain
CDI System Physician Advisor at MedStar Health; former Executive Director of CDI at Wellstar
MedStar Health; Wellstar Health System
Episode: The Next Chapter: Faisal Hussain on change, creativity, family, and finding balance
Penny Jefferson
Director of CDI program at UC Davis
UC Davis Health
Episode: Medical Record Maestro: Reimagining CDI in the Age of AI and the Longitudinal Record
Richelle Marting
Queen of denials, founder of Marting Law, LLC
Marting Law, LLC
Episode: The Downgrade Era: How Payers Are Changing the Game with (My) Richelle Marting
Sharon Easterling
Founder and CEO of Upskills
Upskills
Episode: ChatGPT to Chart Review: AI use cases in the mid-revenue cycle and beyond
Tiara Minor
Director of CDI for University of Miami Health System; Acdis Advisory Board Member and Speaker
University of Miami Health System
Episode: Beyond the Dashboard: Tiara Minor on Mentorship and Meaningful CDI Leadership
Betty Stump
Senior Solution Consultant for Edifecs, a Cotiviti business
Edifecs / Cotiviti
Episode: Risk Adjustment Reality Check: What’s Working—and What Isn’t
Mary Inman
Partner at Whistleblower Partners LLP; head of International Whistleblower Practice
Whistleblower Partners LLP
Episode: A reckoning for Medicare Advantage: Inside the Kaiser case with Mary Inman and Liz Soltan
Liz Soltan
Senior Associate at Whistleblower Partners LLP, NYC office
Whistleblower Partners LLP
Episode: A reckoning for Medicare Advantage: Inside the Kaiser case with Mary Inman and Liz Soltan

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Brian Murphy
Host of the show, guiding conversations with guests across HIM, coding, and CDI.

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 36 ratings
  • Love OTR!

    I've been an active listener of the "Off the Record" podcast with Brian M. for a while now, and I can't express enough how much I love the compliance topics Brian covers. The insights and discussions are always relevant and engaging. I'm also incredibly thankful for the opportunity to have been a guest on the podcast recently. Brian's professionalism and deep understanding of the field make every episode a must-listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KW Advanced Consulting
    United States2 years ago
  • Informative AND entertaining!

    Love the unscripted interview format! So different than most shows in the coding and CDI space. Guests have inspiring stories that are giving me ideas for my own career. Brian asks great questions that really draws the best answers from the guests, and is an excellent host (as well as a very funny guy). Both informative AND entertaining, well done!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Was A Smoker
    United States4 years ago

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The unscripted interview format and strong host questioning differentiate it from peers in the coding/CDI space.
Guests' real-world stories and hands-on tips translate into actionable career and program-building takeaways.
Listeners appreciate the compliance focus and practical insights for their work.

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From NYU to TEDx: Chris Petrilli on Tech, Trust, and the Future of Healthcare
Q: What is your current role and how does it influence your perspective on AI in healthcare?
As an associate professor of medicine and senior director for revenue cycle at NYU Langone, Petrilli sees AI as a tool to improve efficiency, accuracy, and patient care, especially in coding, CDI, and quality/safety initiatives.
From NYU to TEDx: Chris Petrilli on Tech, Trust, and the Future of Healthcare
Q: How do you see AI interacting with humanity in the big picture?
AI should be viewed as a collaborative partner that augments human capabilities, handling busy work and data synthesis while humans bring creativity, empathy, and nuanced judgment.
Retiring, But Not Quietly: Fran Jurcak on Tech, Tenacity, and CDI Truths
Q: What is the future of CDI and healthcare reimbursement, given continued change and technology?
The future of CDI involves leveraging tech to handle repetitive tasks and surface opportunities, while preserving clinician oversight to ensure accuracy and proper care; documentation will remain central to revenue capture and patient care, with efficiency improvements but no wholesale replacement of professionals.
Retiring, But Not Quietly: Fran Jurcak on Tech, Tenacity, and CDI Truths
Q: What can't machines currently do in CDI, and why can't they replace clinicians?
Machines can't replace clinicians because CDI requires deep clinical judgment, expertise, and the ability to adapt documentation to a patient's unique risks and context; automation can surface opportunities but the final determination rests with a trained clinician.
From Coding to Cabo: Following your bliss with Melanie Kiss, travel entrepreneur
Q: What advice would you give someone wanting to start their own business in a similar space?
Start small, don't burn bridges, and layer in structure gradually—build experience, save money, and use mentors to navigate contracting and marketing.

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This show centers on mid-revenue cycle leadership stories, with in-depth conversations about healthcare coding, CDI, case management, and related fields. Episodes frequently explore governance, AI and automation in the revenue cycle, physician engagement, program design, mentorship, and real-world tactics for improving compliance, documentation integrity, and financial outcomes. A distinctive strength is the host's unscripted, interview-driven style that surfaces personal journeys, challenges, and actionable takeaways from frontline leaders and practitioners. Listeners can expect practical insights for program building, leadership development, and navigating evolving regulatory and technology landscapes in healthcare revenue cycles.

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1. Tami Gomez
2. Faisal Hussain
3. Penny Jefferson
4. Richelle Marting
5. Sharon Easterling
6. Tiara Minor
7. Betty Stump
8. Mary Inman

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