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Off the Record with Brian Murphy

Brian Murphy
Artificial Intelligence
Value-Based Care
Medicare Advantage
Risk Adjustment
Outpatient CDI
Clinical Documentation Integrity
HCC
Revenue Cycle
Healthcare
ACDIS
CMS
Chicas Abroad
Chatgpt
Mentorship
Hospital Quality
Brian Murphy
Kaiser Permanente
False Claims Act
Whistleblower Partners LLP
Downgrading / Down Coding

The only show where today’s top mid-revenue cycle leaders share the personal stories, struggles, and successes that you won’t hear on the big stage—but made them who they are today. Join host Brian Murphy as he interviews leaders and interesting personalities from HIM/coding, clinical documentation integrity (CDI), case management, and related healthcare fields about their origins, current challen... more

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Rose Bernards is a believer in value-based care. It’s been a driving force in her career.

But it was put to the test when she suffered a family tragedy in late 2025. She wrote about that experience in a three-part series for LinkedIn I highly recom... more

When you work deep in the hospital mid-revenue cycle there can be an unfortunate but understandable tendency to divorce your work from the patient. To become separated from clinical care and outcomes, and even, in the case of value-based care, from i... more

Cheryl Ericson is a veteran, in every sense of the word. Someone who has seen and experienced a lot in the CDI profession—and so has a wealth of knowledge and wisdom to confer.

I go back a long way with Cheryl, to early ACDIS days when she was the ... more

At ACDIS 2026 I delivered an unofficial episode of Off the Record with my guest today: Tracy Ferro, Executive Director, System CDI for Medical University of South Carolina Health (MUSC).

The “podcast” was delivered on stage, at the outpatient sympo... more

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Recent Guests

Rose Bernards
Believer in value-based care and consultant at Norwood
Norwood
Episode: Lessons from loss: A look from the inside of value-based care with Rose Bernards
Sunita Varghees
VP of System CDI
Baylor Scott & White Health
Episode: Chronic Conditions, Clinical Outcomes, and Risk Adjustment’s True North: Baylor Scott and White’s OP CDI story
Carrie Horn
Director of All Patients CDI
Baylor Scott & White Health
Episode: Chronic Conditions, Clinical Outcomes, and Risk Adjustment’s True North: Baylor Scott and White’s OP CDI story
Cheryl Ericson
Senior Director of Clinical Policy and Education at the Brundage Group
The Brundage Group
Episode: Beyond the Query: Cheryl Ericson and the case for clinical judgment in CDI (and life)
Tracy Ferro
Executive Director, System CDI for Medical University of South Carolina
Medical University of South Carolina
Episode: Sharpies and stage lights: MUSC’s Tracy Ferro on outpatient CDI origins
Tami Gomez
Executive Director of HIM, Coding and CDI, UC Davis Neurodiversity Coding Internship Program
UC Davis MIND Institute / UC Davis Health
Episode: Different Minds, Extraordinary Strengths: The UC Davis Coding Internship Story
Faisal Hussain
CDI System Physician Advisor at MedStar Health; former Executive Director of CDI at Wellstar
MedStar Health; Wellstar Health System
Episode: The Next Chapter: Faisal Hussain on change, creativity, family, and finding balance
Penny Jefferson
Director of CDI program at UC Davis
UC Davis Health
Episode: Medical Record Maestro: Reimagining CDI in the Age of AI and the Longitudinal Record
Richelle Marting
Queen of denials, founder of Marting Law, LLC
Marting Law, LLC
Episode: The Downgrade Era: How Payers Are Changing the Game with (My) Richelle Marting

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Brian Murphy
Host of Off the Record with Brian Murphy

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 36 ratings
  • Love OTR!

    I've been an active listener of the "Off the Record" podcast with Brian M. for a while now, and I can't express enough how much I love the compliance topics Brian covers. The insights and discussions are always relevant and engaging. I'm also incredibly thankful for the opportunity to have been a guest on the podcast recently. Brian's professionalism and deep understanding of the field make every episode a must-listen.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KW Advanced Consulting
    United States2 years ago
  • Informative AND entertaining!

    Love the unscripted interview format! So different than most shows in the coding and CDI space. Guests have inspiring stories that are giving me ideas for my own career. Brian asks great questions that really draws the best answers from the guests, and is an excellent host (as well as a very funny guy). Both informative AND entertaining, well done!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Was A Smoker
    United States4 years ago

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Informative and entertaining with practical stories for career ideas.
Loved the compliance topics and host's deep understanding of the field.
Unscripted interview format and engaging guests make it different from typical CDI shows.
The host asks great questions and draws actionable insights from guests.

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From NYU to TEDx: Chris Petrilli on Tech, Trust, and the Future of Healthcare
Q: What is your current role and how does it influence your perspective on AI in healthcare?
As an associate professor of medicine and senior director for revenue cycle at NYU Langone, Petrilli sees AI as a tool to improve efficiency, accuracy, and patient care, especially in coding, CDI, and quality/safety initiatives.
From NYU to TEDx: Chris Petrilli on Tech, Trust, and the Future of Healthcare
Q: How do you see AI interacting with humanity in the big picture?
AI should be viewed as a collaborative partner that augments human capabilities, handling busy work and data synthesis while humans bring creativity, empathy, and nuanced judgment.
Retiring, But Not Quietly: Fran Jurcak on Tech, Tenacity, and CDI Truths
Q: What is the future of CDI and healthcare reimbursement, given continued change and technology?
The future of CDI involves leveraging tech to handle repetitive tasks and surface opportunities, while preserving clinician oversight to ensure accuracy and proper care; documentation will remain central to revenue capture and patient care, with efficiency improvements but no wholesale replacement of professionals.
Retiring, But Not Quietly: Fran Jurcak on Tech, Tenacity, and CDI Truths
Q: What can't machines currently do in CDI, and why can't they replace clinicians?
Machines can't replace clinicians because CDI requires deep clinical judgment, expertise, and the ability to adapt documentation to a patient's unique risks and context; automation can surface opportunities but the final determination rests with a trained clinician.
From Coding to Cabo: Following your bliss with Melanie Kiss, travel entrepreneur
Q: What advice would you give someone wanting to start their own business in a similar space?
Start small, don't burn bridges, and layer in structure gradually—build experience, save money, and use mentors to navigate contracting and marketing.

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What is Off the Record about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on mid-revenue cycle leadership, healthcare CDI, HIM, and policy discussions that blend practical program insights with personal career stories. Recent episodes emphasize value-based care, risk adjustment, outpatient CDI, AI's role in the revenue cycle, and leadership lessons from frontline CDI teams. Listeners can expect candid conversations about implementation challenges, real-world outcomes, and humane perspectives from practitioners, policy experts, and educators. A notable strength is the host's unscripted, interview-driven approach that surfaces actionable takeaways and human experiences behind the metrics.

A standout aspect is the diversity of guests, ranging from hospital system leaders and CDI directors to policy... more

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Recent guests on Off the Record include:

1. Rose Bernards
2. Sunita Varghees
3. Carrie Horn
4. Cheryl Ericson
5. Tracy Ferro
6. Tami Gomez
7. Faisal Hussain
8. Penny Jefferson

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