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How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams

Emily White
Music Publishing
Revenue Streams
Artist Management
Music Industry
Music Business
Self-Publishing
Live Touring
Kash Doll
Trinidad James
Think It's A Game Records
Digital Streaming Platforms
Arrange Me
Email Marketing
UK Radio
Hal Leonard
Sheet Music
Music Marketing
Direct-To-Fan Sales
Patreon
Bandcamp

How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams is the podcast version of Emily White's #1 Amazon best-selling book. White brings each chapter of the book to life with handpicked world-class guests including Bon Iver's Justin Vernon, Imogen Heap, Kam Franklin of The Suffers, Warped Tour Founder Kevin Lyman, legendary attorney Donald S. Passman, Patrick Sansone of Wilco, and... more

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Latest Episodes

We wrap this emotional Boston season with the second half of Host Emily White’s deep dive career conversation with the one and only Mark Kates. We hope you enjoy the journey of Mark’s extraordinary career and impact on culture for us all.

Creator, E... more

Mark Kates is a music industry icon that began and runs his empire from Boston. Who better to have as our epic season finale guest where Mark digs in deep on his backstory from Nirvana to MGMT and everything in between from the Geffen Days to Fenway ... more

How does one know when it’s time to start winding down a release and start the creative process again? In this episode we chat through this topic with Guster’s Adam Gardner delving into his iconic career, while also talking about his powerful and dee... more

This episode covers all revenue that’s owed to you if you write, record / release music, and/or play live. It also covers bonus revenue streams beyond royalties and income that’s owed to you otherwise. Host Emily White explores this topic with Eli Bo... more

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Recent Guests

Mark Kates
Music manager and founder of Fenway Recordings
Fenway Recordings
Episode: 5.12.2/E92: Season Finale Part 2: Mark Kates
Adam Gardner
Co-founder and co-executive director of Reverb, environmental nonprofit
Reverb
Episode: 5.11/E90: Repeat & Grow w/ Guster + Reverb Org’s Adam Gardner
Eli Borg
Front man of The Girl
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Episode: S5.10/E89: Revenue Stream Checklist w/ Eli Borg of The Girl
Vanessa Ferrer
Founder and CEO of Merch Cat
Merch Cat
Episode: S5.9/E88: Merch Re-Con w/ Merch Cat CEO Vanessa Ferrer
Dana Chard
Chief Inspiration Officer at Lifestyle Events; CIO at Lifestyle Events; founder of SassGo Productions
Lifestyle Events; SassGo Productions
Episode: S5.8.2/E87: Your Live Strategy + Efficient Touring with Dana Chard
Malcolm Gray
Live Nation Urban VP of Marketing
Live Nation Urban
Episode: S5.7/E85: How to Market With or Without a Budget w/ Live Nation Urban VP of Marketing Malcolm Gray
Dan Melnick
GM of Bandcamp
Bandcamp
Episode: S5.6/E84: Setting Up Your Release and Distribution Plan w/ Bandcamp GM Dan Melnick
Kira Burr
Boukie Games' co-founder, game composer and Northeastern alum
Boukie Games
Episode: S5.5.2/E83: Music Publishing Isn’t Scary or Confusing + How to Land a Sync Placement with Kira Burr
David Herlihy
Copyright law professor, Northeastern Music Industry Department coordinator
Northeastern University
Episode: S5.3/E80: Get Your Business Affairs Together w/ Professor David Herlihy, Esq.

Host

Emily White
Host of the show who introduces guests and guides the conversation

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 58 ratings
  • So valuable

    I’m learning so much just from the introduction - I can’t wait to take the deep dive !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    StesoYusko
    United States4 years ago
  • Has potential, but unlistenable

    There is good content in here, but the audio quality is just not acceptable, especially for a podcast targeting musicians who care about… audio. Fixing this, and putting more effort into the overall editing would help greatly.

    Apple Podcasts
    2
    TM_1490
    United States5 years ago
  • So good!

    I’m learning a ton from this podcast. Can’t wait to hear future episodes!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    bobbyjrBV
    United States6 years ago
  • Love this!!!

    So happy to hear this book come to life in podcast form. And I’m pumped about the guests lined up. I highly recommend this based the episodes I’ve heard thus far.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BVAnnCK
    United States6 years ago
  • Heck ya 👏👏👏

    The podcast space needs this and Emily’s background ensures she’s the one to deliver the goods.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    modernshorties
    United States6 years ago

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Audience appreciates industry-accessible insights and actionable steps for monetizing music.
Listeners praise practical takeaways and energy from guests.

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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

5.12.2/E92: Season Finale Part 2: Mark Kates
Q: What is the biggest takeaway from the time that you spent in the industry over the years? What's the biggest shift, change that you've seen culturally, socially, etc. Outside of just the technology that has really pushed the industry forward?
Kates sees a growing desire for tangible experiences and products, alongside social media's ability to expand access to music. He says that access can also overwhelm artists with competition, and that online platforms can both create new audiences and cause harm.
5.12.2/E92: Season Finale Part 2: Mark Kates
Q: What does a manager do and how are managers paid?
Managers represent artists across their careers and help them earn revenue in different areas. They are typically paid a percentage of what their artists earn, though arrangements vary.
5.11/E90: Repeat & Grow w/ Guster + Reverb Org’s Adam Gardner
Q: Kathleen asks two questions about family involvement at shows and how Gen Z influences the band, especially for younger fans.
Adam discusses making concerts family-friendly with kid-oriented pricing and activities, and notes that younger fans often become fans as their siblings grow up with the music, creating a multigenerational audience.
S5.10/E89: Revenue Stream Checklist w/ Eli Borg of The Girl
Q: What's your experience with setting up your publishing and rights infrastructure?
We're moving through ASCAP and found value in adding a publishing administrator (Song Trust or Centric) to ensure we collect all publishing royalties beyond just performance rights; keeping everything organized helps prevent money from going into the black box.
S5.8.1/E86: How to Break Into the Concert Industry w/ Lifestyle Events’ Dana Chard
Q: What is Lifestyle Events and why are you Dana's angel?
Lifestyle Events is a full-service production company that handles every logistical piece of an event—from talent buying and venue rental to advance work and insured operations—aimed at turning big ideas into executable experiences. Dana is described as the chief inspiration officer who brings a collaborative, execution-focused approach to make complex events happen smoothly.

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This show centers on building a durable, diversified music career through practical, real-world guidance. Across episodes, guests range from veteran live-ops professionals and veteran managers to platform leaders, legal experts, and game/music publishers. Core themes include independent distribution, direct-to-fan engagement, publishing and sync revenue, marketing with limited budgets, and navigating the evolving tech and data landscape. A standout trait is the emphasis on actionable steps—from setting up business affairs and ownership to negotiating licenses and creating repeatable revenue streams—delivered through narrative career stories and tactical tips. Listeners likely gain clear playbooks for monetizing music beyond streaming, with ... more

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